Deltarune VS Undertale: Kris VS Undyne (7-0-0)

[Therefir]

Kris The Lightbringer VS Undyne The Undyne

• Battle takes place in the Card Castle Roof, 10 meters away from each other.
• Chapter 2 Kris and Undyne the Undying are being used.
• Speed is equalized.

Kris: 7 (ShockingPsychic, Quibster, LeoEpicGamer8910, JustANormalLemon, V999, Greatsage13th, H3110l12345I20)
Undyne:
Inconclusive:

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Kris has more HP than Frisk does (a stat I assume is fair to remain consistent here), an AP advantage, decent combat experience, and more options for putting Undyne down

Voting Kris

 

[Greatsage13th]

Kris has more HP than Frisk does (a stat I assume is fair to remain consistent here)

Deltarune game stats =/= Undertale game stats

 

[Quibster]

Aside from statistics, it does look like Kris has a general skill advantage and has more defensive utility than what Chara had in their fight against Undyne. Information Analysis and ACTs such as Glare and Hypnosis will wittle Undyne down over time enough for Kris to strike.

I vote Kris for now

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Krisp FRA

 

[Greatsage13th]

Aside from statistics, it does look like Kris has a general skill advantage and has more defensive utility than what Chara had in their fight against Undyne. Information Analysis and ACTs such as Glare and Hypnosis will wittle Undyne down over time enough for Kris to strike.

I vote Kris for now

How does Kris deal with Green mode?

 

[Quibster]

How does Kris deal with Green mode?

Determination :^)

 

[Therefir]

How does Kris deal with Green mode?

Kris is really good at using shields they should be fine.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Kris is really good at using shields they should be fine.

Would they know the yellow ones would go in the opposite direction?

 

[Quibster]

Would they know the yellow ones would go in the opposite direction?

Yes I do think Kris would go “oh hey the yellow thing does something different”, and use his shield

 

[Greatsage13th]

Yes I do think Kris would go “oh hey the yellow thing does something different”, and use his shield

Point is he's essentially stationary and forced to block a sequence of danmaku from all directions with his shield when every single fight he had always involved him dodging and running amok. Would he be used to the stationary blocking quick enough before he's overwhelmed by it?

 

[Quibster]

Point is he's essentially stationary and forced to block a sequence of danmaku from all directions with his shield when every single fight he had always involved him dodging and running amok. Would he be used to the stationary blocking quick enough before he's overwhelmed by it?

I don’t think Kris would remain stationary at all in this fight, nor would be get overwhelmed as easily as you’re suggesting. Kris has experience dealing with danmaku and his shield gives him additional survivability— among other defensive options like his ACTs and dodging.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I don’t think Kris would remain stationary at all in this fight, nor would be get overwhelmed as easily as you’re suggesting.

I meant —during—green mode.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Kris wouldn't have a problem blocking with his shield, even if they get hitted by the yellow arrows at first, they would just learn, also IA could give this information to Kris before getting hitted

And there is also the fact zundyne need to hit Kris to put them on green mode and considering they can slash Undyne without getting close and have some great acrobatic and Yellow mode to overwhelm undyne with projectiles I think kris takes It quite easy

Overall Kris can do anything Frisk can but without needing to save and load(in my opnion)

 

[V999]

Kris FRA

 

[Greatsage13th]

Kris wouldn't have a problem blocking with his shield, even if they get hitted by the yellow arrows at first, they would just learn, also IA could give this information to Kris before getting hitted

IA?

And there is also the fact zundyne need to hit Kris to put them on green mode and considering they can slash Undyne without getting close and have some great acrobatic and Yellow mode to overwhelm undyne with projectiles I think kris takes It quite easy

Green mode happens very fast that Frisk couldn't avoid it even with aim dodge unlike Sans' blaster. So, I wouldn't say Kris can avoid it just by not being close.

Anyways, I think Kris takes this.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

IA?

Information analises

Green mode happens very fast that Frisk couldn't avoid it even with aim dodge unlike Sans' blaster. So, I wouldn't say Kris can avoid it just by not being close.

Undyne cover the entire "box" with her spear when putting frisk in green mode and frisk nor nearly as acrobatic as kris

 

[Greatsage13th]

frisk nor nearly as acrobatic as kris

Really?

 

[AThe1412]

Really?

Frisk's best acrobatics feat (if you could even call it that because they don't really have anything else) is being able to balance a BIG stack of hotdogs on their head while walking very carefully. Kris's best acrobatics feat is backflipping over giant teacups that are 14.47 meters away from each other, something that would require Frisk to jump on a literal steaming vent to replicate.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Frisk's best acrobatics feat (if you could even call it that because they don't really have anything else) is being able to balance a BIG stack of hotdogs on their head while walking very carefully. Kris's best acrobatics feat is backflipping over giant teacups that are 14.47 meters away from each other, something that would require Frisk to jump on a literal steaming vent to replicate.

What about the time Frisk jumped over a really long lineup of bones with a large one at the very end that towers over Frisk's height? (While under the influence of blue mode)

 

[AThe1412]

What about the time Frisk jumped over a really long lineup of bones with a large one at the very end that towers over Frisk's height? (While under the influence of blue mode)

What is shown in the box doesn't necessarily correlate to what actually happens. If they can really jump that high then they wouldn't need the vents to cross those much smaller gaps in Hotland.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Krisp Dreemurr FRA.

GRACE period starts!

 

[Greatsage13th]

What is shown in the box doesn't necessarily correlate to what actually happens. If they can really jump that high then they wouldn't need the vents to cross those much smaller gaps in Hotland.

Then wouldn't any calcs used for the attacks inside the box be invalid?

 

[AThe1412]

Then wouldn't any calcs used for the attacks inside the box be invalid?

Keyword: "necessarily".

 

[Greatsage13th]

Keyword: "necessarily".

Can't really disprove their leap of faith merely by using their vent hopping as the main disapproving factor.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

What about the time Frisk jumped over a really long lineup of bones with a large one at the very end that towers over Frisk's height? (While under the influence of blue mode)

Gag feat that is also a outlier

 

[Greatsage13th]

Gag feat that is also a outlier

Wha? How is it both a gag and outlier?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Wha? How is it both a gag and outlier?

Frisk never do anything close to that level of acrobatic again and is a gag beacuse you wouldn't expect to be able to j ump over the big bone

 

[AThe1412]

Frisk never do anything close to that level of acrobatic again and is a gag beacuse you wouldn't expect to be able to j ump over the big bone

Hell, you could even make an argument that Papyrus secretly manipulated gravity in that moment to help Frisk jump over it considering that he himself can jump really high.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

true, we know he can do that somewhat when he jumped over us in that one scene

 

[Therefir]

Krisp Dreemurr FRA.

GRACE period starts!

Grace period over, adding this.