Delicious Gods: Bill Cipher vs. The Devourer Of Gods

[Jinsye]

In a place, not on any maps, most people haven't even heard of it. A town called Gravity Falls. Somewhere in the woods, currently under the invasion by an evil dream demon that is wreaking havoc across the cosmos, wait what?

A one-eyed dream demon, known as Bill Cipher is currently sitting in his pyramid instructing his friends.

"GRAVITY FALLS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, IT'S TIME TO TAKE OUR CHAOS WORLDWIDE! ALRIGHT TO THE CORNERS OF THE EARTH, SET THE WORLD AFLAME WITH YOUR WEIRDNESS. THIS DIMENSION IS OU-"

He was interrupted by a loud rumble and suddenly, a large part of the 'Fear-a-mid' he liked to call it fall off.

"WHAT?!" yelled the triangle as the rubble fell apart, there was a giant worm, and it looked hungry.

Bill Cipher

vs.

The Devourer of Gods

Rules:

• Restricted Bill Cipher vs. The Normal Devourer (Can resurrect to become the Final Devourer though)
• Speed Equalized
• In-character
• Win by whatever they would do in-character to win.
• Other than that, Standard Battle Assumptions

Music:

Neutral Battle Theme

Bill's Battle Theme

Devourer Of God's Battle Theme

Score:

Bill Cipher: 0

Devourer Of Gods: 1

Inconclusive: 0

 

[DMUA]

"One Hit Kill (If caught in its mouth, the target will be instantly killed, regardless of durability)"


good game

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

(Looks at devourer of gods). That would be regular Universe level (3-A), not Universe level+ as time is not mentioned once.

 

[DMUA]

oh

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

(Looks at devourer of gods). That would be regular Universe level (3-A), not Universe level+ as time is not mentioned once.

This pretty much makes this a stomp in favor of Bill. rip.

 

[Akreious]

So like... If Bill's speed is cut in half then wouldn't Devourer of Gods get a chance to OHK? Or at least Bill 1-shots, Devourer revives then proceeds to OHK?

 

[Assaltwaffle]

"Universal collapse" implies the collapse of a singularity. The DoG (his anagram is dog... rip) tears apart space itself on the regular. It is the scourge of the universe and devourer of the cosmos and can leave gashes in the fabric of reality.

It definitely does effect space-time, not just the universe. Pretty much all its powers are spatial and reality-based.

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

So like... If Bill's speed is cut in half then wouldn't Devourer of Gods get a chance to OHK? Or at least Bill 1-shots, Devourer revives then proceeds to OHK?

I have no idea where the OHK came from, because I have seen a direct hit from its head survived in game, also it would be NLF to say he could OHK a Low 2-C, considering he's never done that.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Drag-O

In Death Mode the DoG will kill the Terrarian instantly. It doesn't even have a massive hit like "999999" or anything, it is akin to the butcher function of a command console. And if the Terrarian is being assumed as Low 2-C, which he would need to be to harm a Low 2-C DoG, he has instakilled a Low 2-C b4.

 

[Akreious]

Wait this is legit in the game?

Looks at Mod name

Oooo I remember the Calamity Mod! Fun times. RIP

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

@Drag-O

In Death Mode the DoG will kill the Terrarian instantly. It doesn't even have a massive hit like "999999" or anything, it is akin to the butcher function of a command console. And if the Terrarian is being assumed as Low 2-C, which he would need to be to harm a Low 2-C DoG, he has instakilled a Low 2-C b4.

But he's not Low 2-C, because there was no mention or showing of time involved in his stuff. So, no insta killing Low 2-Cs.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Universal "collapse", rends apart space itself, warps reality passively, but being on the Low 2-C is not possible?

To get Low 2-C you have to effect the space-time of a universe, not just the physical matter. It is very clear, imo, that the DoG is doing the former.

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

Universal "collapse", rends apart space itself, warps reality passively, but being on the Low 2-C is not possible?

To get Low 2-C you have to effect the space-time of a universe, not just the physical matter. It is very clear, imo, that the DoG is doing the former.

"Universal" doesn't automatically mean space time unless there is something that supports it being space and time, as a "universe" can mean just the space in some cases.

Does this mod mention any space and time destruction, or just "universal collapse"?

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Universal wasn't what I quoted. Collapse was. Collapse implies a singularity, which is a space-time construct.

Time itself doesn't need to be mentioned so long as the spatial structure of the timeline is. Space and time are interwoven, and space is part of the dimensional framework of a universal space-time continuum. While time is 4-D, directly manipulating the entire spatial structure of the universe goes beyond infinite 3-D power, as manipulating the dimensional axes of space-time shows you are effecting this dimensional structure of a universe, and thus being beyond the material destruction that 3-A constitutes.

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

Collapse can also just mean falling apart, actually most of the time the word is used, it would imply just this, not any singularity stuff.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

No, collapse in a universal sense cannot mean anything but space-time. Matter on a universal scale can't "collapse". Space-time can collapse and it forms a singularity.

 

[Jinsye]

Btw can I get votes or smth?

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

No, collapse in a universal sense cannot mean anything but space-time. Matter on a universal scale can't "collapse". Space-time can collapse and it forms a singularity.

"Collapse" in most usages literally means "fall apart". Matter can do this, otherwise our physics could not exist, or we would all have some degree of 4D power, as time would be subject to just about everything.

Also, where are you even getting your information?

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Edward

Yeah.

The DoG is far more versatile and probably more powerful than Bill. If Bill somehow manages to kill him (BFR isn't an option because of universal tunneling) he will re-appear as Final Devourer, catch him by surprise, and kill him.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Drag

So it is more believable that the DoG could make all matter fall apart instead of creating a singularity despite all his powers involving spatial tunneling and reality alteration?

Edit: General lore page here. Devourer of Gods page here. There is also info on all the Sentinels of the Devourer pages and the general Sentinel boss page.

 

[DMUA]

So it is more believable that the DoG could make all matter fall apart instead of creating a singularity despite all his powers involving spatial tunneling and reality alteration?

Well... I mean, no, but at the end of the day we have no actual proof on either side.

But wouldn't this be a massive outlier anyway since Terraria God Tiers are merely 3-C soon to be High 5-A thanks to you?

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@DMUA

Well this is a mod with a completely different continuity and lore. Vanilla Terraria is 5-C, but this mod has some very nice showings of hax and power. Also, it is only "possibly" Low 2-C. It isn't absolutely proven, but it is a strong possibility, so I added that tier.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Also just found that DoG can create rifts in space-time powerful enough to destroy the universe, so that is a pretty solid Low 2-C feat.

Also those rifts can make the "concept of reality itself" falter, so DoG now has conceptual manipulation of reality itself.

DoG should stomp Bill now.

 

[Jinsye]

A dog stomps an evil triangle key