DBH/Xeno Downgrade

Veronica · May 9, 2023

Dragon Ball Xenoverse/Heroes Wank Debunk Part 2-This is a reflection of my gripes with 5D+ Scaling for Dragon Ball Xenoverse/

Jason_Courne · May 9, 2023

Neither Xeno nor Heroes Goku is 5D, they're only Multiversal+

Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara · May 9, 2023

This gotta be the funniest downgrade of all time, all those scans and paragraphs for something that doesn't even exist

Thelastmlg · May 9, 2023

Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
This gotta be the funniest downgrade of all time, all those scans and paragraphs for something that doesn't even exist

seems like they are also trying to downgrade them to like, low 2-C or something? i mean later scans seem to mock them being planetary or even mountain level?

Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara · May 9, 2023

Thelastmlg said:
seems like they are also trying to downgrade them to like, low 2-C or something? i mean later scans seem to mock them being planetary or even mountain level?

I agree with Peak Human Level Goku FRA.

TheGodOfICE777 · May 9, 2023

Bruh these geburah arguments that shit is long as **** but I’ll debunk the main stuff

Veronica said:
This is a reflection of my gripes with 5D+ Scaling for Dragon Ball Xenoverse/Heroes and a post dismantling arguments that dragon ball fans usually make when it comes to Dragon Ball Heroes and Xenoverse showing that the scale isn’t as high as people believe it to be.

The Gods in Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Aka stronger than Demigra and Mechikabura) are stated not to be able to intervene with Space and Time at 4:09 of (Keep in mind the only time you can interfere with Time in Dragon Ball is through time travel: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1020859868766281778/image0.jpg so the fact that Gods have no way of mingling with 4D Time without the use of Time Travel despite claims of being 5D tells us a lot).

This also implies Space and Time is superior to the Universes/Dimensions because Beerus stopped the Universe Tree which was draining the 12 Universes at 5:26 to 7:28 of

This proves that the Universes/Dimensions functions under one Space And Time. (The implication is the majority of universes if not all of them exist under a single SpaceTime Continuum and are separated by frames and paths within the events of SpaceTime)

To travel to different universes/timelines/dimensions, the time patrol crosses SpaceTime proving that Universes/Timelines/Dimensions in Dragon Ball functions under SpaceTime

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/949184638394462229/990323101600464996/IMG_1959.png

^ The scan says

Yes, I've crossed SpaceTime looking for Toki Toki.

^ It’s proof that people in dragon ball move through SpaceTime to get to Universes/Timelines/Dimensions implying that they are all contained under one SpaceTime Continuum.

Toki Toki is never stated to be responsible for all dimensions, it’s stated he has a responsibility for all dimensions.

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The Universe Tree which sucks up bits of space and universes were revealed to only grow to the size of a galaxy.

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^ The scans say this….

The Universe Tree ... It's a legendary giant tree that grows on space as for nutrients.

The universe tree sucks up the entire universe and becomes a galaxy-sized big tree...

Xeno Goku confirms CC Goku is stronger than him

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Yup it doesn’t end there it’s stated it was an experiment just to create a new universe

Fu says this:
This is an experiment to create a new universe...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949184638394462229/990332459424034816/IMG_1974.png

The Universe Tree actually absorbs the energy of the Universes The Universes energy equates to a ******* Galaxy

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Proof the Universe Tree was sapping the energy of all the universes

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Then this

A strange bird appears in the seventh universe... It is said to bring about a calamity that could destroy the entire universe.

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Recently, without warning, planets in various universes have been destroyed.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949184638394462229/990342268219170816/IMG_1963.png

^ confirmation all the universes were being attached to the tree.

3:00 to 3:50 of confirms it too.

Remember the Universe Seed? It’s a premature baby state of the Universe Tree

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^ The Universe Seed wasn’t even Galaxy level since it’s the premature state of the Universe Tree.

Ui Omen Goku polished by the Grand Priest got clapped by the Universe Seed’s power (or not even)

Btw the galaxy level tree shit is in Heroes Manga too

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The Universe Tree can only create a new universe if it absorbs the power of the gods of destruction and releases that power in a short amount of time (The Gods say only a God can create universe and even then there’s a bonus: the gods of destruction can’t even emulate power at the level of a Big Bang with Quitela calling it bullshit that Fu is trying to recreate it).

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The “Universe” that the Universe Tree produces is extremely small

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So now dragon ball fans are left with quite an ultimatum

1. Entire Universes equate to a Galaxy Construct

2. Entire Universes equating to a Pocket Universe

3. Entire Universes equating to a Single Universe Construct the Size Of a Galaxy

4. Entire Universes equating to a Galaxy Construct that can only produce a pocket universe under specific conditions

For clarification

Beerus can't Destroy the Universe Tree

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Vegito Blue can’t Destroy the Universe Tree

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Fu’s “vast power” with the time birds was something as limited as reducing the time of the universe to a state of zero, implying he couldn’t achieve such a feat like destroying/manipulating it without the power of the time birds and the universe tree which even without that he was stronger than Xeno Goku

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1017942077784469624/kEQc98p_d_1.webp

So either way this doesn’t end with even 2-A Dragon Ball Heroes/Xenoverse

Next

A scan of Heroes Goku and Vegeta struggling to move in a cube seal that is several hundred folds the gravity of earth

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getting slammed into concrete from the gravity and outside forces from the objects themselves around them harms them

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and hearts was about to beat them until Hit and Jiren appeared

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Jiren ain’t shit either he couldn’t resist the power either

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The power of the Universe was estimated to be able to overthrow Zeno

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Hearts absolutely styles on Goku trained by Grand Priest, Vegeta, Hit and Jiren all stronger than Xeno Goku

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Jiren struggling with planetary gravity

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The reason I emphasize on this is because people who claim these characters actually transcend time or are multiverse+ don’t know the significance of this

To put it simply

Gravity is the curvature of spacetime
Gravity is the curvature of the universe, caused by massive bodies, which determines the path that objects travel. That curvature is dynamical, moving as those objects move. In Einstein's view of the world, gravity is the curvature of spacetime caused by massive objects.
https://www.science.org.au/curious/space-time/gravity#:~:text=Gravity%20is%20the%20curvature%20of%20spacetime&text=Gravity%20is%20the%20curvature%20of,spacetime%20caused%20by%20massive%20objects.

Gravity functions on Time

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And keep in mind Gravity is not necessarily even 4D, it’s reliant by the force of massive bodies like planets and stars.

If these characters can’t resist that then they’re not Multiverse+ and even if they were Multiverse+ they have poor hax resistance and durability. Though it might not be Hax since the Hax has nothing to do with durability negation.

Moving on

Hearts who has the power of the universe is worried about the Gods destroying a single Universe

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Beerus casually overwhelmed God Trunks (who’s stronger than Xeno Goku) with a single effortless ki blast saying it took everything he had to deflect it and Vegeta saying there’s no way they can beat the Gods Of Destruction

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God Trunks who struggled deflecting an effortless ki blast from Beerus was able to destroy attacks from Dogi Dogi Fu

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For those who think Xeno Goku is stronger than Beerus and Whis this was confirmed not to be the case since DBH Ultimate Mission X

Xeno Vegeta scared of some little ass planet barely shaking and getting slashed

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For closure: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...131656/Screenshot_20220929-195039_Chrome2.jpg

https://mangabuddy.com/super-dragon...ter-12-dark-empire-army-complete-resurrection

Gogeta in super dragon ball heroes struggled with an asteroid that would only destroy the planet

https://youtu.be/IQ-Fwoo2iUE?t=379 and continued in https://youtu.be/zs2IzOa53X8?t=9 Trunks states he can't stop it and needs help from Jiren, Hit, Piccolo, himself and etc.

Planetary Heroes LMAO

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...776000161812501/E3mvs88VoAIps3V.jpg_large.jpg

https://twitter.com/DBSChronicles/status/1403346424083849219?s=20&t=hxbJ1Si2yBlKDJ5-JgIYUg

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Look at this lol. Planetary Heroes LMFAO!

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LMAO MOUNTAIN LEVEL HEROES!!!!!

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Before you say “Ki Control Though” the intensity of attacks is stated by Sealas to not be able to be controlled/adjusted.

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So according to Chronoa, altering Space Time and the flow of Time is considered hard labor

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Xeno Vegeta getting one shotted lol

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Threatened by SPACE shifting attacks

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Reminder from my previous DBH/DBX debunk post that you don’t have to directly destroy a universe or timeline to harm the cosmology just harm the time scrolls

This Wanked Section Of The Verse seems to Have a nasty Chain Reaction according To it, Everything > Flows Of Time >= Histories Yet any Changes to The Former Can Collapse The Latter this is shown in The Crack Of Time/Time Chasm as Trunks and Chronoa Talk about the Deconstruction Of The Cosmology

0:00 to 5:43 Of https://youtu.be/IkI8vB1qmjU

This is supported in the DBH manga when Chronoa states one change in history can ruin everything

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Literally just moving in a time machine threatened history lmao and that was unintentional
Makes sense how the Demon gods are considered a big threat

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The Time Vault is another chain reaction since destroying it destroys History

Destroying It Destroys Everything

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And if there’s too many time scrolls everything goes boom

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1017929035550044232/Chronoa2.jpg

There’s also another Chain Reaction in the Verse Called The Scroll Of Eternity (it appears in both Xenoverse and Heroes Which is A Product Of Time hidden In The Time Nest and/or Vault) that merely destroying that and that alone could end every world (no buts, including Beat’s and Sora’s Worlds which I will Cover since it’s Misunderstood and Wanked)

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Then you will see it’s a Chain Reaction from here on

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BTW if Sealas (stronger than Demigra since he can take on SSB Beat and Xeno SSJ4 Gogeta) actually had the power to destroy the world or even other worlds then he wouldn’t need to destroy the scroll of eternity which proves it’s a chain reaction.

This is also briefly brought up in World Mission

Sealas (who’s stronger than Demigra) can’t destroy history/the universe (destroy evil) with his own power and hence resorts to trying to destroy the Scrolls Of Eternity

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Chronoa confirms this and says she banished him into the Time Abyss (Crack Of Time)

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Sealas planned on destroying the Scrolls Of Eternity to Erase History since he couldn’t destroy it himself and then rewrite the timeline as he sees fit after they’re all destroyed.

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Demigra cannot destroy History himself, he pours his power into a Time Door that- when put into different worlds destroys them by chain reaction (and it was implied it would destroy two worlds not all of them)

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and yes SpaceTime Doors are a thing Lmao SpaceTime Doors are revealed to shallow the world

https://imgur.com/a/6TknUHe

Keep in mind he does this after Demigra absorbs Toki Toki in Dragon Ball Heroes

Power is amplified and is stated to be able to rule over the Time of The Universe at best.

https://imgur.com/a/8zW2o1t

Demigra does not control all of Time and Space literally in fact in the Japanese Version he simply says he will rule over it

魔神ドミグラ

トキトキはわが手に落ちた

これから私は時空を支配する新たな神となるのだ

Evil God Demigra

Toki Toki has fallen into my hands

From now on I will be the new god who rules time and space.
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Demigra can’t even survive the destruction of the Time Vault

10:56 shows Demigra can't even tank such destruction

https://youtu.be/5uF-EpV225Q

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So Demigra isn’t even Multiverse+ like people claim.

If you want to end the Multiverse+ Demigra wank and test my theory just simply ask when and where is Demigra explicitly stated to destroy multiple universes/timelines with his own power directly and why does he resort to using chain reactions like the Time Vaults and The Time Doors.

More proof that Dragon Ball Heroes/Xenoverse Characters aren’t Multiverse+ is that Towa and The CAC 2 from Xenoverse 2 are heavily implied to not be able to take an attack that destroys the Universe

Yes…. Towa Implies a Universe Level explosion and Dimension tearing Hax could easily kill her and the CAC 2

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Oh and She states they’ll all die if he overloads and explodes

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Implies that destroying the Universe will kill these guys, again even if they were Multiverse+ they have poor displays of durability that they could be killed by a Universe Tier character

And before someone says “couldn’t dimensions refer to the multiverse?”

1. It doesn’t say it will destroy dimensions, it simply states it will tear through them and that’s an extrapolation on whether the blast can destroy the universe or not, the universe is the only thing that she states the explosion would destroy, everything else is breaking through or tearing which isn’t saying much since it would be like punching through a wall you’re not destroying the building itself entirely and 2. She never stated it would destroy all dimensions just tear through an unspecified amount of dimensions and implies they are punched through one by one.

So It definitely caps at destroying the Universe, If you can destroy the universe then you can hypothetically break through the walls leading to other universes, a tear of the skin is not destroying the entire body is it? It’s like poking a hole in a sheet of paper, you aren’t burning it or anything you’re just making a hole.

Also you probably don’t know about DB cosmology because the reason tearing through dimensions is so easy is because there’s neutral zones that connect them, so depending on how hard you destroy one universe, a chain reaction could result in harming the other except with Beerus and Champa they were both universe level so destroying one universe would entirely destroy the one next to it

If you want scans for that or proof of what I’m saying then here

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2:06 of https://youtu.be/OFnX0KKX7ZA

Vados says the combat would inevitably lead to the destruction of Universe 6 and 7

There’s this implying it requires two universe level beings to destroy two universes in dragon ball in normal cases

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But more on the Towa shit because people might claim “well she was afraid of the egg exploding and destroying her” to which I would reply with she was afraid of both but even then we need to clarify something very important here…

Toki Toki's eggs is Universe Tier at best

Proof the Toki Toki Egg is Universe Level at best and it’s viewed as vast enough rule Time and Space implying Universe Levels of Power can get you far in the verse and its top of the line

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Then there's this

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^ what it says:

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^ This also implies when dragon ball heroes/xenoverse refers to all of time they are talking about the universe

The energy from Toki Toki’s Egg being so powerful that there was nothing the time patrol could do to stop him, reminder that the Toki Toki Egg is Universe Level Max.

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So with all of this it’s made pretty clear that 1. It doesn’t matter if the explosion would destroy the universe or the egg because either way it’s universe level destruction doing them in either way resulting in 2. Universe levels of power can kill these guys and since Universe level power is consistently seen as the highest of standards that means 3. Universe Level Power is top notch in the verse.

Next

Mechikabura is implied to only be a threat to the Universe with Toki Toki's power

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Mechkikabura was apparently said to consume Time yet it was theorized to just be Histories but it's later revealed when 'there's nothing left" he only absorbed one world/history

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Also Android 16 “Extra Dimensional” original Japanese scan

・・・・・・分析不能だまるで別世界の生物だ

・・・・・・ unanalyzable, it's like an otherworldly creature.

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^ that’s what the English version actually meant by “Extra Dimensional” and it was right, it meant something outside of the universe in this context.

The “Real World” Or Rather “Beat’s World” in Your Own Scan is Synonymous with Alternate Timeline Via Trunks: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/699699467141644342/743638160340156496/1Ck1ozL.png The Real World is linked to the same Time-Stream as That Of The Worlds Of Dragon Ball, Nothing Higher Dimensional, So that shit And a Scan randomly Dimensions doesn’t mean shit, how many coordinates and volume does it have?

Beat’s World runs Down the Same Bounds Of Existence as The Game Worlds, Sora’s World, Sealas’ Duplicate Worlds/Realities and The Dragon Ball Worlds

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And if you want explicit proof Beat’s World Is One Of The Many Futures Within Dragon Ball (Spoilers; Beat is revealed to be The Descendant Of Either Xeno Goku Or An Alternate Slate Of Super Goku that Xeno Goku Fought as well As Having Similar Ki and Abilities)

At 14:48 All the Way to 16:45 Of https://youtu.be/DFrFz9M2s2E

Basically This Part is A Whole “Obviously Genetically Related” Maury Episode

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the Beat we see in God Mission, SDBH mission and everything before is his avatar and that the real Beat is actually outside of it all and is pretty weak.

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Another point…. The crystals in the crack of time aren’t timelines, they’re portals to timelines

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Toki Toki did not create all dimensions, he’s simply important to them

He’s a very important bird for all dimensions.

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That’s what this scan actually refers to

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Crack Of Time is not literally “Beyond Time” it’s an enclosed space separated from Time

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“Transcending Time” and/or “Beyond Time” in Dragon Ball does not refer to level of existence it simply refers to the ability to manipulate or resist time in any way for example: time traveling

Goku Black is stated to “Transcend Time” using a Time Ring

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But all that refers to is traveling through paths in SpaceTime

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Goku Black cannot “transcend” Time of his own free will

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Time also tries to correct itself like wound healing forcing Goku Black into Future Trunks’ era.

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Towa says the Dark Dragon Balls have flown “Beyond Space and Time” and that she will retrieve them by going through a Rift in SpaceTime

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But previously this rift they use was stated to be within SpaceTime

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And it’s revealed that the Dark Dragon Balls are within SpaceTime so they never literally went beyond SpaceTime so it’s all just flowery language

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To add to my case that these are in fact the Dark Dragon Balls and that they are within SpaceTime

They’re Revealed to be the Dark Dragon Balls and even confirmed to be in different timelines/histories

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Fu is stated to have “transcended time” in the Prison Planet Saga as the mysterious person who appeared from the Future

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Yet all he did was come from the Future and open doors to different times in that saga

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People say Xeno Goku was affecting all of time by transforming into SSJ4 but it’s never implied that’s the case all he says is he doesn’t know the impact going into SSJ4 could have on Time which could refer to the flow of history which has nothing to do with affecting all of time but the order of events within a timeline

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Xenoverse 2 heavily implies Zeno is the only one who could defeat Infinite Zamasu who became the Universe

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And yes if you remember Dragon Ball Super (which was the timeline explored in the Dragon Ball Xenoverse DLC) they state Zamasu was merging with the Universe, not Dimensions, not Timelines just the Universe

https://youtu.be/MZZO1T6qtz0?t=103

^ If these characters were really multiverse+ or has multiverse+ level hax negating Infinite Zamasu as a threat should be little issue even if he's immortal.

Yet it took an actual multiverse level character to put him down: Zeno.

The Time Nest is revealed to be at the edge of the universe

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Chronoa when describing the events of Xenoverse 1 only states that the Universe and its History was saved never states Dimensions, Timelines or Multiverse

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Implications that Timelines exist under the same SpaceTime Continuum

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Beerus’ best feats in Xenoverse continuity was destroying Galaxies and used that as a threat

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Xeno Goku and Vegeta were afraid of lava when fighting Dr.W

Seriously watch https://youtu.be/Evhg-bIUGHA

^

“Seems that the lava didn't really do anything to ssj3 Xeno Vegeta” it did

Goku was worried about Vegeta falling into the lava yelling “VEGETA!!!!”

Kinda proving it still posed enough danger to them.

It also took noticeable time for him to get out of that lava

Can’t wait for “iT wAs ThE EneRgY wAvE thAt sTuNneD hIm” well Xeno Ssj3 Goku got hit and nothing didn’t happen to him when he was out of the lava and Goku made sure to evade the lava even when he was in Ssj3. In fact they only get stunned when they’re in the lava which even DBS Goku can manage.

But even if such was the case Base Xeno Vegeta stopping himself from getting dunked inside of it literally spells trouble for what DBS Goku can withstand. Remember it was Xeno Base Goku that fought Demigra so him getting threatened by lava is a major problem for the power people claim he has.

Supreme Kai Of Time is only stated to manage the Flow Of Time throughout the Universe, implying different Timelines reside in the same Space as one Universe

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And a thing about the keysword since people claim it negates all haxxes

Trunks used the Keysword in the Dark Demon Realm Saga against Mechikabura’s Power Of Darkness Ability and it failed horribly even after claiming it could combat his ability (it didn't)

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Keysword was also not that effective against the Power Of Darkness even stacked with Time Labyrinth

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And before you say “Keysword is resistant to Time Hax at least” no not really, Trunks after he made contact with the Keysword was getting ****** by black hole hax which is used through the power of time, also it's never stated or implied the keysword can negate all time hax it only resisted time freeze which only restricts time around the opponents body

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The Keysword only did shit to Mechikabura and his power of darkness because it was mixed with the power of time, the power of a god, the power of light and the power of dark

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even if I was somehow incorrect about Trunks not having the Keysword's powers after touching it, when he uses it he still gets binked by haxxes proving that it doesn't negate all hax let alone passively and if that's not the case then was only used once and isn't a part of Trunks' standard battle equipment.

So there you have it, the power of dragon ball heroes/xenoverse is not what people claim.

Extras

The Dark Demon Realm Is literally just a Future Hell
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Also here's a doc debunking dragon ball heroes/xenoverse refutes
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V8f7UIBndmqT7wY88iIhKTMnaYIDlmUQWscRkqtLNXw/edit?usp=sharing

and check out my dragon ball heroes/xenoverse debunk part 1 (some links don't work and some things are outdated but still it's nice to take a look)

More Time Travel “transcends Time” hyperbole

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The place the warriors were in where the Universe Tree is at is referred to as the “Space and Time” https://youtu.be/_ajcKBmyHBY 42:49 and the universe tree being the size of a galaxy doesn’t mean it only has galaxy level durability and ap that’s like saying a character Who’s the size of a building is only building level despite having universal ap and Durability feats

also that doesn’t make space and time superior to the universes and dimensions when they’re literally stated to be space-times it’s faulty logic

also crossing space time literally implies the opposite of it being contained other one space time and multiple things would say otherwise anyways

Dimensions can refer to space-times/ timelines depending on the context and in that context it’s referring to timelines

also gravity manip affecting them doesn’t mean they don’t have 4D AP lifting strength and AP aren’t the same and the gravity manip could be on a higher level either way and nothing suggests it being tonly planetary

the planetary stuff I don’t see how that would make them only planetary it’s just saying that the fight shook the planet it doesn’t mean it’s the maximum amount of AP and durability they have

For the mountain level stuff it was just them reacting to a fast attack that was faster than they could react and is a classic case of AP =/= DC

That’s all I’ll respond to for now but I talked to Geburah on this with discord and it’s just him taking stuff outta context made him rage quit he’s the same guy who made people think that when Goku called Grand kais Planet a small planet that it was referring to heaven

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
This gotta be the funniest downgrade of all time, all those scans and paragraphs for something that doesn't even exist

Thelastmlg said:
seems like they are also trying to downgrade them to like, low 2-C or something? i mean later scans seem to mock them being planetary or even mountain level?

The crazy guy copied something amino

https://aminoapps.com/c/join-the-ba...unk-part-2/Xekl_0ZhguRbDrZ76on6JpYoPLMJpjXWgo

Dagoth_OwO · May 9, 2023

This post is literally just a copy paste of Zastando's amino blog. What a joke lol

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

godofice said:
Bruh these geburah arguments that shit is long as **** but I’ll debunk the main stuff

The place the warriors were in where the Universe Tree is at is referred to as the “Space and Time” 42:49 and the universe tree being the size of a galaxy doesn’t mean it only has galaxy level durability and ap that’s like saying a character Who’s the size of a building is only building level despite having universal ap and Durability feats

also that doesn’t make space and time superior to the universes and dimensions when they’re literally stated to be space-times it’s faulty logic

also crossing space time literally implies the opposite of it being contained other one space time and multiple things would say otherwise anyways

Dimensions can refer to space-times/ timelines depending on the context and in that context it’s referring to timelines

also gravity manip affecting them doesn’t mean they don’t have 4D AP lifting strength and AP aren’t the same and the gravity manip could be on a higher level either way and nothing suggests it being tonly planetary

the planetary stuff I don’t see how that would make them only planetary it’s just saying that the fight shook the planet it doesn’t mean it’s the maximum amount of AP and durability they have

For the mountain level stuff it was just them reacting to a fast attack that was faster than they could react and is a classic case of AP =/= DC

That’s all I’ll respond to for now but I talked to Geburah on this with discord and it’s just him taking stuff outta context made him rage quit he’s the same guy who made people think that when Goku called Grand kais Planet a small planet that it was referring to heaven

I'll ask for closure, he copied everything from a website, my god

Hasty12345 · May 9, 2023

is bro downgrading 5D when the characters are only 2-A?

Veronica · May 9, 2023

Hasty12345 said:
is bro downgrading 5D when the characters are only 2-A?

To Low 2-C/2-C

Hasty12345 · May 9, 2023

Veronica said:
To Low 2-C/2-C

dude this crt is unreadable ngl

Deceived3596 · May 9, 2023

You already know this was copied and pasted from some Amino or Reddit post just with how horrible the formatting is. This shit is nigh unreadable.

Hasty12345 · May 9, 2023

also discord image links aren't allowed, pretty sure they're like unsafe or something idk

TheGodOfICE777 · May 9, 2023

LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I'll ask for closure, he copied everything from a website, my god

I mean I don’t mind debunking it all it’ll take me a bit tho

Veronica said:
To Low 2-C/2-C

already debunked most of it

Kroneii1 · May 9, 2023

Bruh geburah arguments

Braking · May 9, 2023

what the **** is this????

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

Hasty12345 said:
is bro downgrading 5D when the characters are only 2-A?

LOL

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

As far as I know, this is not allowed here and can be banned, isn't it?

Dagoth_OwO · May 9, 2023

~~I wonder if the OP is related to Zastando in any way~~

Shmooply · May 9, 2023

My ass ain't reading all that.

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

Dagoth_OwO said:
~~I wonder if the OP is related to Zastando in any way~~

If I say it's possible, would you believe it?

Dagoth_OwO · May 9, 2023

LuffyRuffy46307 said:
If I say it's possible, would you believe it?

Oh I already know it is. Just having a laugh

Braking · May 9, 2023

Ok mods you can close this now

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

Dagoth_OwO said:
Oh I already know it is. Just having a laugh

Imagine me in the middle of the night laughing at a copy and paste trying to demean us

Dagoth_OwO · May 9, 2023

LuffyRuffy46307 said:
As far as I know, this is not allowed here and can be banned, isn't it?

Anyways, the OP is an Amino copy paste of a banned user so might aswell

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

Dagoth_OwO said:
Anyways, the OP is an Amino copy paste of a banned user so might aswell

Jeez bro

Shiraito983 · May 9, 2023

copy paste eh

Nostredam · May 9, 2023

Good CRT. We can all agree that Tier 0 Sonic solos Mountain level Heroes.

The_Axiom_of_Virgo · May 9, 2023

Dagoth_OwO said:
~~I wonder if the OP is related to Zastando in any way~~

Truthfully I suspect proxies/socks are at work here which are against site standards, regardless this is just giving unnecessary attention to a banned user ~~regardlessly if you agree with the arguments or no~~t, so let's drop that subject shall we?

Anyway jokes and memes aside, between @godofice quick rebuttal, the poor formatting of the CRT and the actual CRT being 90% copy paste arguments from another platform, this thread should be shut down ASAP (but not before the OP gets some "advice" from a mod).

LuffyRuffy46307 · May 9, 2023

The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Truthfully I suspect proxies/socks are at work which are against site standards, regardless this is just giving unnecessary attention to a banned user ~~regardlessly if you agree with the arguments or no~~t, so let's drop that subject shall we?

Anyway between @godofice quick rebuttal, the poor formatting of the CRT and the actual CRT being 90% copy paste arguments from another platform, this thread should be shut down (but not before the OP gets some "advice" from a mod).

I've already triggered an administrator to scold him, so it's close soon, lol

Mr.Cinos15 · May 9, 2023

I came here expecting to see some big downgrade attempt, only to get arguments for something that isn't even applied on the site

.

MrHazama · May 9, 2023

Should go to Fun and Games

LordGriffin1000 · May 9, 2023

I'll just close this. OP is formatted poorly and is trying to downgrade something that isn't on here.

DBH/Xeno Downgrade

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