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Pretty sure Magneto takes both

Mostly cause Magneto is smarter and can take more pain and outspeeds

Also not sure but if Darth Vaders suit has metal in it then it would make this even worst for him

Also Magnetos helmets maybe will make the force's telepathy not work
 
Hawkeye bowman 13 said:
Also Magnetos helmets maybe will make the force's telepathy not work
Arguable. In the EU, Vader is 80% of Sidious according to Lucas, and Sidious was able to mindrape billions of people. That's above anything that Erik's helmet has stood up against if i'm not mistaken.

But nothing prevents grabbing in the Force and ripping him in half or tearing him apart on the sub-molecular level, since he can react to Vader, but has no movement or combat speed.
 
Hawkeye bowman 13 said:
Also not sure but if Darth Vaders suit has metal in it then it would make this even worst for him
His suit's made of a durasteel alloy and Mandalorian Iron. Sounds like something Magneto could manipulate. Even if you were to disinclude that, Vader's limbs are made of a metal material that could be easily manipulated. It basically comes down to who can manipulate who faster.
 
Elvis Adika said:
Isnt this a stomp match? Magneto is Planet level while Vader is either town or multi continental level
No, because Vader holds the speed advantage and possesses hax. Vader reacts and fights much faster than Magento does, nothing suggests that Vader couldn't rip Magneto in half with a thought before Magneto could maniuplate him.
 
Aparajita said:
No, because Vader holds the speed advantage and possesses hax. Vader reacts and fights much faster than Magento does, nothing suggests that Vader couldn't rip Magneto in half with a thought before Magneto could maniuplate him.
Um dude, Magneto and Vader have the same speed, which is Lightspeed reactions.

Vader WILL NEVER harm Magneto. Do you think vader's attack potency of Multi-continent will ever bypass Magneto's PLANET LEVEL durability?

Magneto helmet specifically stops telepathic attacks, and just because you said Darth Vader can mindrap billions, doesnt mean he can telepathic attack Magneto. That is just speculation on your part.
 
Elvis Adika said:
Um dude, Magneto and Vader have the same speed, which is Lightspeed reactions.

Vader WILL NEVER harm Magneto. Do you think vader's attack potency of Multi-continent will ever bypass Magneto's PLANET LEVEL durability?

Magneto helmet specifically stops telepathic attacks, and just because you said Darth Vader can mindrap billions, doesnt mean he can telepathic attack Magneto. That is just speculation on your part.
First. Incorrect. Magneto's movement and combat speed is only Hypsonic+ with LIGHTSPEED REACTION, while Vader is much faster.

Vader has abilities that bypass durability, particuarly able to maniuplate moleucles.
 
Does Vader ALSO have rather slow movement and combat speed? His profile doesn't state he has LIGHTSPEED movement and combat speed, only for reaction.
 
On Vader's page.

Relativistic+, Lightspeed reactions augmented by precog

His movement and attack speed is Relativistic. His reactions are Lightspeed.
 
Vader's suit is made of metal. Magneto has unrivaled control over metal. Put two and two together along with Eric's helmet being resistant to psychic attacks and you have a dead sith.
 
Cropfist said:
Vader's suit is made of metal. Magneto has unrivaled control over metal. Put two and two together along with Eric's helmet being resistant to psychic attacks and you have a dead sith.
Eric has no resistance to atomic maniuplation and Vader's reaction, i.e his ability to call upon the Force and that AM is much faster.
 
I agree with Elvis Adika on why this is a stomp. Vader rarley uses atom manipulation and even with much faster movement Magneto can still react to his attacks as he has lightspeed reactions.
 
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