Dark Enchantress Cookie (Cookie Run) vs The Overlord (Ninjago) (0-3-0)

[Ar1216789]

@Lloydblitzed I can just put your vote for Overlord.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Check Pets section



Each dream is above time and has two temporal dimensions, blah blah. Isn't it obvious enough? Theres legit a dream that encompasses the entire World of Dreams and the cosmology as a whole.

Isn’t dream = R>F

 

[Ar1216789]

Isn’t dream = R>F

This is striked-out, so I assume you have it figured out

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

This is striked-out, so I assume you have it figured out

Nah, I was just kidding

 

[Ar1216789]

Nah, I was just kiddin

Listen to this banger. its arabic so u might not get it if ur not arab but just listen trust the process

 

[Lloydblitzed]

@Lloydblitzed I can just put your vote for Overlord.

Yes, I can see him heavily outskilling her and use every ounce of darkness at his own advantage. If not its just stomp due to Overlord blitzing and doing everything before she does

 

[Ar1216789]

Yes, I can see him heavily outskilling her and use every ounce of darkness at his own advantage. If not its just stomp due to Overlord blitzing and doing everything before she does

Counted

 

[Ar1216789]

I'm not playing if any of you little ***** comment while im sleeping and send me an damn essay your gonna have to see my bad side

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I commente-

 

[Ar1216789]

I commente-

my dark side

 

[REX9097]

The Overlord FRA

 

[Ar1216789]

Dark Enchantress Passive Transmutation hax better

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Dark Enchantress Passive Transmutation hax better

I’m pretty sure Overlord will use metamorphosis and get back. Also how effective is it?

 

[Ar1216789]

I’m pretty sure Overlord will use metamorphosis and get back. Also how effective is it?

Turns everything in L1-C range to a coin or data.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Dark Enchantress Passive Transmutation hax better

Possess Dark Enchantress anyways

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Turns everything in L1-C range to a coin or data.

Overlord as data casually corrupted tech and took over a city

 

[Ar1216789]

Possess Dark Enchantress anyways

She's countering Possession with her Minions or just Damage Transfer and Pets.

 

[Ar1216789]

Overlord as data casually corrupted tech and took over a city

I doubt he can do much as a coin.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

She's countering Possession with her Minions or just Damage Transfer and Pets.

U can't damage transfer possession, and the pets will do nothing more than contribute to Overlord's new army

I doubt he can do much as a coin.

I’m pretty sure Overlord will use metamorphosis and get back. Also how effective is it?

 

[Ar1216789]

U can't damage transfer possession, and the pets will do nothing more than contribute to Overlord's new army

She can seal his soul, and he lacks regeneration which the Sealing attack is needed to get back from, it erased L1-C beings. She can then erase his concept seeing as DE has access to the concepts of darkness, chaos, and light. (She is darkness, and the concept of light is governed by nature.)


She should be able to strike fear into him via passive Fear Manip. She struck fear into GingerBrave, whos stated to be the bravest Cookie and he is an avatar of the Will of the Cookies.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

She can seal his soul,

Let's not forget the immense speed disavantage that makes this fight incredibely unfair

and he lacks regeneration which the Sealing attack is needed to get back from, it erased L1-C beings.

Overlord resist EE

• Existence Erasure (Capable of wielding the four Golden Weapons at once without any problem: the Golden Weapons can erase from existence anyone who isn't powerful enough to wield all of them at once)

And can seal her anyways

• Sealing (The First Spinjitzu Master and the Ultimate Spinjitzu Master [the latter also most likely accidentally sealed the Overlord in the Borg Tower] possessed this ability, and the Golden Master should too)

She can then erase his concept seeing as DE has access to the concepts of darkness, chaos, and light. (She is darkness, and the concept of light is governed by nature.)

Ye that's not gonna happen if she gets corrupted by him due to manipulating the concept of darkness. Not only that, but he can purify any dark magic thrown at him

 

[Lloydblitzed]

She should be able to strike fear into him via passive Fear Manip. She struck fear into GingerBrave, whos stated to be the bravest Cookie and he is an avatar of the Will of the Cookies.

All EMs resist fear hax, including Overlord

• Standard Elemental Master Abilities

• Fear Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation (Elemental Masters in Dark Island were able to resist and overcome Dark Matter that made enraged them and manipulated their fears. This is consistant with Lloyd being able to break free from an even more enhanced amount of Dark Matter, Wu being able to fight off and eventually overcome a strong amount of Dark Matter and Lloyd, Zane and Cole getting even closer to Dark Matter and still resist the effects. Misako also confirms that their Elemental Energy allows them to counter the effects of that Dark Matter)

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

She's countering Possession with her Minions or just Damage Transfer and Pets.

No? Those do not counter possession

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Turns everything in L1-C range to a coin or data.

I’m pretty sure Metamorphosis covers this

 

[Robo432343]

overlord arguments are more convincing

also goku

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Siding with Overlord for now

 

[Ar1216789]

I’m pretty sure Metamorphosis covers this

Can he go back from being a coin

 

[Ar1216789]

I’m pretty sure Metamorphosis covers this

Jus read DE'S passive pet and invocation hax on her profile

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Can he go back from being a coin

he'll just retransform into something else. Overlord keeps transmuting until he reach his DF form

 

[Ar1216789]

All EMs resist fear hax, including Overlord

Still siding with DE. For AE Type 1, Concept Manip and Passive Hax.

 

[Ar1216789]

This from a while back:

all of her Pets would be activating at the same time as they do in-game, so DEC would be getting a shield from Nectar Delight that would protect her from one attack, among other Pets and Treasures that also grant so many shields they're practically permanent. Producer Mic, Antique Bookmark, Ocean Dragon, etc. would be several threats trying to overwhelm with massive AOE attacks. She has Danmaku of basically objects rapidly approaching/ firing off tons of AOE projectiles, and half of them EE or transmute into a jelly bean. Since he resists EE that won't do anything unless Dark Enchantress Resistance negates. The Overlord would still be vulnerable to the resistance attacks.

Dark Enchantress can control the principles of nature to her will as well, which in the verse can create virtually any effect you want by affecting the underlying foundation of each concept. While the Overlord is overwhelmed by Pets, she can BFR him into a portal while she "invulnerable" in this state. She also has AE Type 1, I didn't check if Overlord has CM.

If all else fails, she can Seal him in an Interdimensional Portal that erases everything.. your mind, soul, and body. He'd need Mid-Godly regen to get back.


DE's corruption can also affect beings like the Sugar Swan, who ranked 6th in Strongest 5-D Characters. DE gained all the Sugar Swans powers in Chaos Incarnate, but that has not been added yet in her profile, so it's irrelevant in the discussion.

If the situation comes where she faces the Stone Army, she can keep them in a timeloop and transmute, EE, or Darkness Manip them.



DE also has Possession and can counter w minions or some other Hax.

Continuum Cog can destroy time an infinite amount of times and absorb everything in range.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

This from a while back:

all of her Pets would be activating at the same time as they do in-game,

He can just phase off their attacks with smoke

so DEC would be getting a shield from Nectar Delight that would protect her from one attack, among other Pets and Treasures that also grant so many shields they're practically permanent.

Teleports inside the shield

Producer Mic, Antique Bookmark, Ocean Dragon, etc. would be several threats trying to overwhelm with massive AOE attacks.

Phase off the AOE attacks anyways

She has Danmaku of basically objects rapidly approaching/ firing off tons of AOE projectiles, and half of them EE or transmute into a jelly bean. Since he resists EE that won't do anything, unless Dark Enchantress Resistance negates. The Overlord would still be vulnerable to the resistance attacks.

Overlord pulls out planetary ranged thought based mind dura neg and instanly incap her, heck he can just trap her inside his spatial manip and beat her

Dark Enchantress can control the principles of nature to her will as well, which in the verse can create virtually any effect you want by affecting the underlying foundation of each concept. While the Overlord is overwhelmed by Pets, she can BFR him into a portal while shes "invulnerable" in this state. She also has AE Type 1, I didn't check if Overlord has CM.

Her controlling the concept of darkness would just end up doing Overlord a favor and corrupt her, and he lit has CM over it

• Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1, 5-D; Now possessing a physical body, he is able to fully access his powers and destroy the Balance, a 5-Dimensional concept, which acts as a force over all the realms, causing their destruction if shifted)

If all else fails, she can Seal him in an Interdimensional Portal that erases everything.. your mind, soul, body. He'd need Mid-Godly regen to get back.

Overlord has so many counters to this, including his own BFR. He also heavily outskills DE, and has a immense LS advantage over her, which would allow him to just crush her to death with Telekinesis

Class T (Should be comparable to Ultimate Spinjitzu Master Lloyd, who could move mountains)

DE's corruption can also affect beings like the Sugar Swan, whos ranked 6th in Strongest 5-D Characters. DE gained all the Sugar Swans powers in Chaos Incarnate, but thats not been added yet in her profile, so its irrelevant in the discussion.

He resist 2 layers of corruption, he won't even be phased

• Resistance to Corruption,Mind Manipulation & Morality Manipulation (2 layers) and Madness Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Perception Manipulation (1 layer) (Is the concept of evil itself and thus should be resistant to his own Darkness abilities)

 

[Ar1216789]

He can just phase off their attacks with smoke

Non-Physical Interaction, Possession, Damage Transfer and more. Transmutation works on objects and things like smoke too.

Teleports inside the shield

Legit bombarded by Pets and can BFR him and is "invulnerable" during the skill. Precognition too.

Continuum Cog go brrrr

Phase off the AOE attacks anyways

Some Pets Counter this.

Overlord pulls out planetary ranged thought based mind dura neg and instanly incap her, heck he can just trap her inside his spatial manip and beat her

Planetary ranged only? DE has L1-C range on it, She can freeze his stamina with Thunderstorm Yeti and counter this with her Pets Precognition and concept of time control.

Her controlling the concept of darkness would just end up doing Overlord a favor and corrupt her, and he lit has CM over it

DE's concept is Chaos. Darkness is but one of concepts governed by Nature. She can legit destroy darkness and light and thus destroy the Overlord.

Overlord has so many counters to this, including his own BFR. He also heavily outskills DE, and has a immense LS advantage over her, which would allow him to just crush her to death with Telekinesis


He resist 2 layers of corruption, he won't even be phased

Telekinesis.. seriously, the number of things she can counter with this..

Curse Manip can come in clutch, removing all his powers and debuffing him. Its Passive.

She also has some good Time Stop and Subjective Reality.


DE also has High-Godly regen through her Magic Candy so she can easily regenerate from "getting crushed"

 

[AigerTheKing]

Non-Physical Interaction, Possession, Damage Transfer and more. Transmutation works on objects and things like smoke too.

The Smoke element worked on characters with NPI. What the hell would Damage Transferal even do? Overlord is not attacking them

Legit bombarded by Pets and can BFR him and is "invulnerable" during the skill. Precognition too.

That can't work if they can't touch Overlord.

Continuum Cog go brrrr

Thought based haxes > Action Based ones

Some Pets Counter this.

Planetary ranged only? DE has L1-C range on it, She can freeze his stamina with Thunderstorm Yeti and counter this with her Pets Precognition and concept of time control.

That doesn't make them escape the durability negation at all

DE's concept is Chaos. Darkness is but one of concepts governed by Nature. She can legit destroy darkness and light and thus destroy the Overlord.

Immortality type 9 goes hard

• Immortality (Type 9; The Overlord's spirit exists independently from the mortal plane of existance)

Telekinesis.. seriously, the number of things she can counter with this..

That removes all her action based wincoins

Curse Manip can come in clutch, removing all his powers and debuffing him. Its Passive.

• Power Nullification (Darkness, an Elemental Essence, is unaffected by the Vengestone which can nullify Energy, Lloyd's power, which is an Elemental Essence)

She also has some good Time Stop and Subjective Reality.

DE also has High-Godly regen through her Magic Candy so she can easily regenerate from "getting crushed"

I don't see what DE will do if she's completly paralyzed

 

[Ar1216789]

The Smoke element worked on characters with NPI. What the hell would Damage Transferal even do? Overlord is not attacking them

That can't work if they can't touch Overlord.

Thought based haxes > Action Based ones



That doesn't make them escape the durability negation at all

Immortality type 9 goes hard


That removes all her action based wincoins





I don't see what DE will do if she's completly paralyzed

Teleports to the plane of existence with her Sealing

Pets go crazy, again

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Teleports to the plane of existence with her Sealing

So she ends up under his control, smart move. And no, she can't do that

Pets go crazy, again

Pets get quickly incap

Continuum Cog go brrrr

Acausality type 4 goes even wilder

• Acausality (Types 1 & 4; By having the same powers of the Golden Weapons, he is unaffected by changes through time)

 

[Ar1216789]

So she ends up under his control, smart move. And no, she can't do that

Pets get quickly incap

Acausality type 4 goes even wilder

Can he be hit by Fate Manip? If yes, its a gg.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Can he be hit by Fate Manip? If yes, its a gg.

He can't

 

[Ar1216789]

He can't

Having AC Type 4 isn't enough, you need to prove he has resistance to Fate Manip.


Nevermind, I checked his profile

 

[Ar1216789]

I'll change my vote for Overlord.