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Daleks Changes

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Ok, i found the thing on City level Daleks.

Episode: Genesis of the Daleks

Thals are a race of people who were advancing their technology in parallel to the Kaleds, even to the point where they created virtually identical domes. Davros stated that a gigantic bomb powerful enough to level cities from the Thals would "hardly scratch" the Kaled Dome, even giving them chemical weapons to be able to do so. Yet the Daleks were heavily damaging the Thal to the point where it seemed to deflate.

I'll get the city stuff: A Kaled slave stated that the bomb would be powerful enough to destroy the Kaled Dome, as this was stated, that means it has to be large enough to cover it. The Kaleds also stated that they had similar technology at the start of the episode.

I will have to mention this; This doesn't scale to the Daleks' durability, as shown in the series, they are massive glass canons to the point where a Renegade Dalek nearly destroy an Imperial Dalek in one blast.

Edit: We agree on that.
 
Another update from Genesis of the Daleks.

They were unharmed by conventional Thal weapons, which are shown to be Wall level to Small Building level on average. Generally consistent with the Pre Time ones.
 
I forgot to mention this.

These Daleks were prototypes, meant to be a combat version of the transport ones they originally used, albiet a mark III version of them. Nonetheless, these are inferior to even the Mark I Daleks, or are the same, i'm not sure.
 
Hmm the Dome feat I'm not too sure about since I don't remember them deflating it in the episode.

As for the second point I feel it's safer to assume these Dalek Units are close if not equal to their Mark 1 counterparts since they themselves don't appear all that superior and appear to have regressed somewhat (reliance on static electricity for one)
 
What are the TLDR conclusions here? However, Azathoth is much more suited to evaluating this than I am.
 
1) Time War Daleks need an upgrade to at minimum 8-B or potentially even higher at 7-C to 7-B with with mention their Nano Tech hax, Existence Erasure etc
 
Pre Time War Daleks are currently being talked about, with the exception of the Special Weapon Dalek.

City level Time War and New Paradigm Daleks for being able to Atomize humans and tank nuclear weaponry. With some special Daleks and a prep key that i will eventually discuss.

Various Dalek powers, some from Special Models, such as existence erasure, nanotechnology, the ability to convert humans into Daleks, self destruction, maybe clairvoyance, and resistance to radiation and magnetism.

An upgrade for Warships, since their technology can easily break tadises. And descriptions for the weapons.
 
ByAsura said:
I'd like to make a few changes that don't require much discussion. The Daleks should have Energy Projection since that is quite literally their signature attack. The format on the Neutron Strikes Solar System to Multi Solar System level should be fixed. And Daleks should have body control since they can fully rotate their head, chest, and lower armor.
Would it also be ok if i apply this?
 
Okay. That should probably be fine, but I would still prefer if Azathoth takes a look at this as well.
 
It's in the Titan comics series the Four Doctors, basically they introduce us to the Dalek weapon known as a Continuity Bomb, a weapon able to go through a person's timeline and change something crucial about their life (The War Doctor becomes a Dalek slave, 10 becomes a galactic tyrant, 11 gets married and 12 becomes scarred with loss)

It should be noted this is normally impossible to escape but because this one is malfunctioning they can get out of this.
 
I found a source some "hand" held weapons, these include a Dalek fire cutting device, flame thrower, etc, a seismic detector, electrodue unit that manipulates electrical currents, and a laser cutting weapon Dalek.

I also found some other preps aside from the Oblivion continuum, there's the exterminator that could level the earth, the Annihilator which could erase races from existence but not time, a shadow vortex that erases things from time, an Entropy engine that speeds up the life cycle of planets to the point that they die, and Regenerationn inhibitors that stop time lords from regenerating.
 
So some nice Existence Erasure, Power Null and Age Manipulation for the Daleks (With some electricity Manip and new weapons for good measure)
 
I'd actually like to mention something else.

Dalek weapons have properties similar to electricity.

When a Dalek flooded a ground with water, it then fired at the water with its gun stick, electrocuting everyone in the vicinity. Dalek.

The effect of a Dalek weapon was compared to lightning.

It is repeatedly stated to scramble the nerves and fry the insides. Remembrance of the Daleks and Prisoner of the Daleks are just some examples.

In Victory of the Daleks, they had a temporary paralysis setting.
 
That reminds me they need Status Effect Inducement and Pain Manio (They can parlyse people with pain, temporarily crippling them)
 
I suppose that this seems reasonable, but Azathoth is the expert, not me.
 
Okay. If Azathoth does not reply soon, I suppose that I will have to clear these suggested changes myself, but I am uneasy with this, as I don't want to make a mistake.
 
I'm not sure how to rate the pre-time war ones, so the discussion is still going.
 
Hmm Perhaps they could be Small-Actual Building normals (Lightning bolt and their tanking feats seem indicative of this) with 7-C SWD?
 
That sounds good.

I think i have a profile draft now.
 
Bump.

I also remembered something, the Dalek ship the Doctor destroyed was a Post-Time War one, so he'd (since it was Matt Smith at the time) be upgraded to At least Star level, possibly Solar System level.

The War, 10th, and 11th Doctors also destroyed a Time War Dalek, so they would get a significant upgrade.
 
So the sonic screwdriver gets upgraded and Regenerationn energy also gets upgraded?
 
Yes.

I found something else, it's from the short The Last Day and when the Doctors save Gallifrey.

It was stated that almost nothing in the universe could get through a sky trench, and everything that has tried failed. Yet a swarm of Daleks were able to pass through 400 by unknown means, thousands of Dalek warships were also capable of damaging them. So, I think this could give them a far higher rating for Time War and Post Time War Ships.

They also say that one Dalek could level Arcadia.

Here thousands of those Dalek ships also create an explosion that dwarfs Gallifrey, which is far larger than Earth in the 10th Doctor's final episode. It is confirmed they did it, as the doctors said they would destroy themselves in the cross fire.
 
It doesn't seem like this will get a lot of input from other members.
 
Yeah. But at least we have all the evidence we need.
 
I suppose so. Do you wish to perform the changes now, or should we wait a bit further?
 
I'm ready to perform the changes. I might do a sandbox or a comment so it can be checked over though.
 
Okay. Which pages do I need to unlock?
 
The Doctor's and the Daleks' page, but not right now.
 
What power would a laser count as? Other than Energy Projection of course.

Edit: NVM
 
Here's the basic draft. I'd like to see if it's good enough.

Powers and Abilities: Energy Projection, Resistance to Radiation and Magnetism, Regenerationn (Low-Mid; by harnessing enough energy, a Dalek was able to overcome falling from space, being burnt in a crater for days and torture), Information and Energy Absorption (Can extract information from life-forms with their Manipulator Arm. A Dalek was able to absorb the entire internet and the power supply of the West Coast. Can recharge its weapons with Lightning), Nanotechnology (Have antibodies that fight against Infections, and nanobots that convert others {alive or dead} into Dalek puppets over time), Adaptio, Energy Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation with Electrode Unit, can extract life with Manipulator Arm, Existence Erasure (Distuptor Daleks, Shadow Vortex, and the Annihilator can erase opponents from existence, with the former two being able to erase beings from both time and space), Fire Manipulation with Claw Arm, Power Nullification (Can inhibit Time Lord Regenerationn. Completely shut down the TARDIS to the point where the Doctor destribed it as merely "wood"), Age Manipulation (With the Entropy Engine, they can age the life cycle of planets to the point of destruction), Limited Precognition (Recognised a fixed point in time), Self-Destruction, Time Travel, Teleportation, Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Flight, Hacking, Forcefields, Biological Manipulation (Using the touch of a time traveller to restore the Dalek, although, this does cause mutation), Matter Manipulation (Can manipulate neutrinos, photons, protons, anti-matter, and neutrons), Pocket Reality Manipulation (Their engines could create tiny space-time continuums), Can fight and exist in the void

Attack Potency: Building level+ (Capable of easily destroying other Daleks), Higher with Specialised Daleks (Fire Cutter Daleks are designed to cut materials that normal Daleks cannot damage. A Special Weapons Dalek is stated to have 50x the fire power of an average Dalek, casually vaporized 4 Daleks at once and a Red Cresent Colony Ship) and Preparation (The Exterminator could destroy Earth in one blast, and multiple Dalek Warships) | At least City level at full power (Can atomize Humans at full power. Can easily destroy other Daleks in a single attack, the Time Lords feared that a single Dalek alone would destroy Arcadia), Higher for the New Dalek Paradigm ("More powerful than ever", easily disintegrated two lesser models), but generally dialled back to much lower levels, Higher with Specialised Daleks (Have far more power than the average Dalek Gunstick, a Claw Arm Dalek was able to cut through a door reinforced against meteorite impacts, which normal Daleks couldn't do), Self-Destruction (Killed multiple Time War Daleks and shook a large portion of an underground base), and Preparation (The Cult of Skaro would have destroyed the Sun had they resorted to using force, a Dalek ship on its "last legs" could harness the power of a wormhole to create a bomb capable of shattering the Earth by "bleeding" it into another universe) | Planet level for Pre-Time War Ships (They have weapons that can crack a planet like an egg, can convert the crust of a planet into plasma, and annihilate planets. The Doctor was confident that they could easily "eradicate" Earth from Space), Star level, likely Solar System level for Time War Ships (Their weapons can easily break and nullify TARDISes, were going to launch planets at 50c towards Galifrey. It has been stated that the Daleks have destroyed a million stars), possibly far higher (Were capable of breeching and damaging Sky Trenches, which is almost completely impossible and has never been done in history), Higher with Neutron Strikes (Could disable star systems across many light years and convert stars into Neutron Stars) | At least Galaxy level, possibly Universe level With the Apocalypse Element (Destroyed the Seriphia Galaxy, which was 4 times larger than the Milky Way, and would have possibly destroyed the entire Universe, had it not been contained by the Eye of Harmony). Multiverse level+ with the Reality Bomb (Had the Daleks succeeded in firing it into the Medusa Cascade, it would have culminated in the destruction of every parallel Universe and the Void, which exists inbetween the former), possibly High Complex Multiverse level With a DARDIS (Comparable to Gallifreyan TARDISes. However, this cannot be used for regular offensive purposes) | High Complex Multiverse level with the Eye of Harmony (Is an 11th Dimensional Matrix)

Speed: Below Average Human on ground, Unknow with flight | Unknow | Massively FTL+

Lifting Strength:
Unknow

Striking Strength:
Unknow

Durability:
Building level+ (Capable of withstanding lightning. The Doctor was confident it could shrugg off an Anti-Tank missile, although a hit at a weak point destroyed its head. A group of prototype Daleks were able to easily tank explosives from the Thals) | At least City level with shielding (Described as being able to "blink" away Nuclear Bombs) | Planet level for Pre-Time War Ships, Star level, likely Solar System level for Time War Ships, Higher with Preparation (Surrounded the Dalek Asylum with a Shield they destribed as unbreachable, even with all the weapons at the disposal of the entire Dalek forces) | High Complex Multiverse level (Stole the technology to create 10-D Transduction barriers)
 
It is called "antibodies" and "dialled back", and I think that withstanding lightning bolts is 8-C, not 9-A, but otherwise it seems fine.
 
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