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I find the Dalek page extremely lacking, with not enough explanation and it only focuses on one era and not all of them. I found a respect thread for them
https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...and-source-thread.298198/page-3#post-14524470
Standard Daleks
They should be 9-A without shielding, as a rocket launcher can kill an Imperial Dalek. So pre-time war daleks and daleks without shielding are 9-A
With their shields, they can tank this
DOCTOR: "Because I'm here. How did it get to Earth? Does anyone know?"
GODDARD: "The records say it came from the sky like a meteorite. It fell to Earth on the Ascension Islands. Burnt in its crater for three days before anybody could get near it and all that time it was screaming. It must have gone insane."
DOCTOR: "It must have fallen through time. The only survivor."
The dalek hit the earth like a meteor, using Colonel Krukov's values for the daleks and using titanium as its mass, I would get the kinetic energy to be 8-B
Dalek Gunsticks should be upgraded
"And you know how those Dalek guns work, don't you? On full power, they can blast a human being to atoms in a split second. But they never do that. Every Dalek dials down the power on its gun-stick to the specific level that will kill a human being. Then they lower the power just a tiny bit further, so that the beam burns away the central nervous system from the outsside in, meaning that every huuman bieng dies in agony. So it takes a full two to three seconds for a Dalek to exterminate one of us-and that's deliberate."
Their gunsticks can atomize people, but they choose to just kill them in an agonizing fashion
So they should be like this
AP: 9-A | 8-C as Paradigm Daleks | Whatever tier is needed to atomize a perso
Durability: 9-A | 9-A, 8-B with shielding
Dalek Ships
Standard Dalek weapons can destroy planets pre-time war. Here is a quote from Remembrence of the Daleks
GILMORE: "It would be foolish of me, I suppose, to hope that this mothership was not nuclear capable?"
DOCTOR: "That ship has weapons capable of cracking open this planet like an egg."
Planet Splitter, which are described as old, can do this
"Arkheon was one of the planets that fell victim to the First Dalek Incursion,' Scrum explained. 'I think it was hit by one of thsoe old planet-splitters. I was only a kid at the time.
Complelty destroyed?'
Yes.
"What, completely completely?
Yes."
Here is another quote
"The Dalek planet-splitters do exactly what they say on the tin,' remarked the Doctor. 'That's all you're left with: bits and pieces and a big, lifeless chunk of rock floating in space."
And another
"Attack Spearhead now entering outer galactic sectors. Heavy concentration of asteroid fields indicate massed planetary destruction. Radiation readings indicate destruction caused by Dalek weaponary."
Lastly, Photon Impellers
"Chris added his support to Felice. 'Any destination is better than here.' He pointed at the 'scope screen, where all three saucers were firing incandescent streams of orange light at Charon: photon impellers, capable of reducing a planetary crust to ionized plasma within minutes."
So their standard weapons should be 5-B
The feat for them destroying stars is the new Dalek Paradigm
Dalek weapons during the Time War could easily break TARDISes
"The Time Lords had no time to react. Not a single one was able to dematerialise before the Dalekweapons cracked them open like tin cans, spilling their insides into the cold vacuum of space.The Doctor roared, slamming his fists into the controls and sending the TARDIS spinning sidewaysin an evasive action that saved his life. Nevertheless, the TARDIS caught a glancing blow on her rightflank and was sent into a wild spin. With the stabilisers unable to compensate, the Doctor slammed tothe floor, rolling off the central dais as the ship juddered."
They were planning on blasting planets off at a kinetic energy 50 times faster than light
"Doctor: "They want to fire a thousand planets at fifty times the speed of light right at Gallifrey."
That is high 4-C
Furthermore, they have Neutron Strike weapons
"Light years of surrounding space gets devastated. Other suns get disrupted. Orbits change. Planets collide or their orbits decay. If it's a full star collapse, then theres a black hole."
"The beam of ion-charged particles that was being blasted into the star. The beam that was turning it neutron. The beam that was a weapon. A weapon I now realised the Daleks had tested - along with their defense against similar technology - when I was on Astronomar."
They are able to disrupt stars over several light years and cause black holes, and can beam ions to turn stars into Neutron Stars, that should be 4-B
So, what I suggest for their ships is 5-B Pre-Time War | High 4-C during Time War | 4-C as new Dalek Paradigm | 4-B to 4-A with Neutron Strikes
Other Additions
Add the following abilties
A higher tier Dalek, Dalek X could do this
"Dalek X extended his suction arm and manipulated the locking mechanism, burning through the simple computer it contained using several million potential combinations in less than a second. The door slid slowly open."
In Remembrance, the Daleks have systems which can detect weapons and other objects in nanoseconds, could be added to their intelligence
"The focus of the warrior's attention sharpened, shooting into the infra-red spectrum. The figures became luminous, shifting patches of red; they carried hard metal objects which in a nanosecond the battle computer identified as weapons."
Notable Daleks
-Caan
-Jast
-Thay
Rusty
"Metaltron"
Supreme Dalek
The Reality Bomb is NOT standard, it is literally the opposite of standard, Davros calls in the culmination of his entire life's work. It is the strongest (Or one of the them) weapon of Doctor Who. That barely sounds "standard to me"
Here is what the page would look like
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XIamUkzJ0vDiyRs1S4J7l7LZizN0PFWy6IuWynq4Ohc/edit?usp=sharing
What do you think of these revisions?
https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...and-source-thread.298198/page-3#post-14524470
Standard Daleks
They should be 9-A without shielding, as a rocket launcher can kill an Imperial Dalek. So pre-time war daleks and daleks without shielding are 9-A
With their shields, they can tank this
DOCTOR: "Because I'm here. How did it get to Earth? Does anyone know?"
GODDARD: "The records say it came from the sky like a meteorite. It fell to Earth on the Ascension Islands. Burnt in its crater for three days before anybody could get near it and all that time it was screaming. It must have gone insane."
DOCTOR: "It must have fallen through time. The only survivor."
The dalek hit the earth like a meteor, using Colonel Krukov's values for the daleks and using titanium as its mass, I would get the kinetic energy to be 8-B
Dalek Gunsticks should be upgraded
"And you know how those Dalek guns work, don't you? On full power, they can blast a human being to atoms in a split second. But they never do that. Every Dalek dials down the power on its gun-stick to the specific level that will kill a human being. Then they lower the power just a tiny bit further, so that the beam burns away the central nervous system from the outsside in, meaning that every huuman bieng dies in agony. So it takes a full two to three seconds for a Dalek to exterminate one of us-and that's deliberate."
Their gunsticks can atomize people, but they choose to just kill them in an agonizing fashion
So they should be like this
AP: 9-A | 8-C as Paradigm Daleks | Whatever tier is needed to atomize a perso
Durability: 9-A | 9-A, 8-B with shielding
Dalek Ships
Standard Dalek weapons can destroy planets pre-time war. Here is a quote from Remembrence of the Daleks
GILMORE: "It would be foolish of me, I suppose, to hope that this mothership was not nuclear capable?"
DOCTOR: "That ship has weapons capable of cracking open this planet like an egg."
Planet Splitter, which are described as old, can do this
"Arkheon was one of the planets that fell victim to the First Dalek Incursion,' Scrum explained. 'I think it was hit by one of thsoe old planet-splitters. I was only a kid at the time.
Complelty destroyed?'
Yes.
"What, completely completely?
Yes."
Here is another quote
"The Dalek planet-splitters do exactly what they say on the tin,' remarked the Doctor. 'That's all you're left with: bits and pieces and a big, lifeless chunk of rock floating in space."
And another
"Attack Spearhead now entering outer galactic sectors. Heavy concentration of asteroid fields indicate massed planetary destruction. Radiation readings indicate destruction caused by Dalek weaponary."
Lastly, Photon Impellers
"Chris added his support to Felice. 'Any destination is better than here.' He pointed at the 'scope screen, where all three saucers were firing incandescent streams of orange light at Charon: photon impellers, capable of reducing a planetary crust to ionized plasma within minutes."
So their standard weapons should be 5-B
The feat for them destroying stars is the new Dalek Paradigm
Dalek weapons during the Time War could easily break TARDISes
"The Time Lords had no time to react. Not a single one was able to dematerialise before the Dalekweapons cracked them open like tin cans, spilling their insides into the cold vacuum of space.The Doctor roared, slamming his fists into the controls and sending the TARDIS spinning sidewaysin an evasive action that saved his life. Nevertheless, the TARDIS caught a glancing blow on her rightflank and was sent into a wild spin. With the stabilisers unable to compensate, the Doctor slammed tothe floor, rolling off the central dais as the ship juddered."
They were planning on blasting planets off at a kinetic energy 50 times faster than light
"Doctor: "They want to fire a thousand planets at fifty times the speed of light right at Gallifrey."
That is high 4-C
Furthermore, they have Neutron Strike weapons
"Light years of surrounding space gets devastated. Other suns get disrupted. Orbits change. Planets collide or their orbits decay. If it's a full star collapse, then theres a black hole."
"The beam of ion-charged particles that was being blasted into the star. The beam that was turning it neutron. The beam that was a weapon. A weapon I now realised the Daleks had tested - along with their defense against similar technology - when I was on Astronomar."
They are able to disrupt stars over several light years and cause black holes, and can beam ions to turn stars into Neutron Stars, that should be 4-B
So, what I suggest for their ships is 5-B Pre-Time War | High 4-C during Time War | 4-C as new Dalek Paradigm | 4-B to 4-A with Neutron Strikes
Other Additions
Add the following abilties
- Matter manipulation (Can create generators that funnel Z-Neutrinos, create neutron-based weapons)
- Nanotechnology ("The Doctor raised his eyebrows. 'Ingenious. It'd have to act fast, though. It would take an extremely aggressive MDV to beat the automatic self-repair molecules that make up the bonded polycarbide.")
- Adaptation via this Nanotechnology ("Cuttin' Edge was peering carefully at the head and neck section of the Dalek. 'What I don't understand is why the thing didnt work this time. I had it point-blank. Should've rusted its damn head clean off. Well, your weapons are smart all right,' said the Doctor, 'but the Daleks are smarter. Their armour learns and adapts. By the time your metal-eating virus was chewing its way through the first Dalek, it was already analyzing the damage and transmitting emergency defense protocols so its mates wouldn't get caught out in the same way.")
- Pocket Reality manipulation (Could create tiny space-time continuums http://i.imgur.com/8ruTK9Y.jpg
A higher tier Dalek, Dalek X could do this
"Dalek X extended his suction arm and manipulated the locking mechanism, burning through the simple computer it contained using several million potential combinations in less than a second. The door slid slowly open."
In Remembrance, the Daleks have systems which can detect weapons and other objects in nanoseconds, could be added to their intelligence
"The focus of the warrior's attention sharpened, shooting into the infra-red spectrum. The figures became luminous, shifting patches of red; they carried hard metal objects which in a nanosecond the battle computer identified as weapons."
Notable Daleks
- Dalek Emperor
- Cult of Skaros
-Caan
-Jast
-Thay
Rusty
"Metaltron"
Supreme Dalek
The Reality Bomb is NOT standard, it is literally the opposite of standard, Davros calls in the culmination of his entire life's work. It is the strongest (Or one of the them) weapon of Doctor Who. That barely sounds "standard to me"
Here is what the page would look like
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XIamUkzJ0vDiyRs1S4J7l7LZizN0PFWy6IuWynq4Ohc/edit?usp=sharing
What do you think of these revisions?