Daemon Spade vs Kakine

[Kawaru_Shotomata]

It's Daemon Spade in mukuro's body with all shimon and vongola rings, and Mukuro

Kakine post-revival

who win ?

 

[Lejon123!]

hard to say but i will take daemon Spade beacuse his broken haxs i maen o really THEY are broken

 

[GreatestSin]

deamon wins,

btw, why is he used so often in battles? kakine has a really low amount of feats, other than hype he is practically building lvl with superhuman reactions and speeds at best... even the high-tiers of the strongest-discipline-kenichi-verse would be able to kill human-kakine, and dark-matter-kakine only wins thanks to immortality and infinite stamina (if we go by feats)...

 

[Kawaru_Shotomata]

everyone ?

 

[Alakabamm]

deamon wins,
btw, why is he used so often in battles? kakine has a really low amount of feats, other than hype he is practically building lvl with superhuman reactions and speeds at best... even the high-tiers of the strongest-discipline-kenichi-verse would be able to kill human-kakine, and dark-matter-kakine only wins thanks to immortality and infinite stamina (if we go by feats)...

Because he has a broken ability. Also, Kakine by hype soloes Kenichi verse. Even the Elder is only large building level in AP or something and Kakine has the speed to match him at the very least.

However, this doesn't help him here. Kakine has a bad match up versus characters massively faster than him with a decent AP. Daemon wins.

 

[GreatestSin]

^i know, it is sad but his ability is (with the hints of the story ) mostlikely powerful enough to recreate any esper ability ever shown or create complete new ones which would/should be able to make him more or less omnipotent this is why he gets defeated before showing any of his abilitys to its fullest extend

and hype is unfortunatly never a argument to be used in matches, otherwise bleach wouldnt be banned

PS with deamons "another dimension sealing" i think he could even win against kakine in his dark matter form ^_^

 

[Alakabamm]

lol deamon is FTL with Island level AP, he wins against every type of Kakine except one who has been given enough time to infest a world.

Also, I thought you were referring to scaling with "hype." If you mean just "x character has been stated to be super strong y times!," that is not what I meant. Scaled Kakine wins against Kenichi verse.

 

[GreatestSin]

^im not sure how i should understand "scaling", do you mean it like that: "black wing accelerator > human kakine, human kakine < dark matter kakine, dark matter kakine > bw accelerator"?

 

[Alakabamm]

I'll explain what i mean. Kakine's speed in his profile is high hypersonic with massively hypersonic reactions. This is because he kept up with Accel, who in turn kept up with saints and angels. So some of Kakine's stats are assumed based off character's he has fought/WoG. Because of those scaled stats, he can solo Kenichi verse. Anyways, this thread should probably be closed, there is virtually no way Kakine can win this one.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Daemon because of higher dc,speed and hax

 

[GreatestSin]

^^ah, yeah, that makes sense...

 

[Lejon123!]

daemon

 

[Alakabamm]

Bumping because of stat revision for Daemon