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Cultivator against superheroes to a whole other level! (CAHS upgrade thread)

SweetDao

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1. The Easy Part

a. Cosmology Upgrade

The "human universe" was accepted as Low 1-C (4 Spatial dimensions and 1 Temporal Dimension) here.

We're shown two times that in the white space, infinite-sized universe becomes finite. The first time is with the Vampire Universe. As you can see, this time the universe isn't flattened to become 2D, it's still a fully three-dimensional structure, yet it's seen as finite. The second time is with the Human Universe (Low 1-C).

Henry has a 12D space. He can put a galaxy and even the universe inside his space, so it makes his space infinite in size.

Despite the difference in dimensions, the size remains "baseline infinite", therefore, from the perspective of the white space, it should still be seen as "finite". To put a clearer example, assume an infinite 2D universe in the form of a circle. It would be seen as finite within the white space. Now, assume you add one dimensional axis to transform that infinite circle into a sphere. Despite the complexity of the universe increasing, its radius will still be "only infinite" and still seen as finite in the white space. The same process applies to a four-dimensional universe too.

Furthermore, Henry, a character who has 12D AP, can't even make a dent to this space.

b. Scaling Upgrade

Henry returned to his prime to fight Yan Sen. Henry is someone who doesn't care about environmental damage, after all, he can create back everything destroyed. Yet, despite being full power during their fight inside the white space, Henry didn't manage to do any damage to Yan Sen or the White Space. However, at one point, he became so strong that he cracked and destroyed part of it.

It means that Henry managed to "significantly affect" the white space, making him 13D in attack potency, and Yan Sen obviously scales to it since he's stronger.

Summary : The Blank Space becomes 13D, Henry and Yan Sen scale to it.

2. The Complicated Part.

a. Henry's power and how it relates to another possible massive upgrade


As you all know, Henry's innate ability is to always become stronger than his opponent. If the first part of this "possible CRT" is accepted, it means that it is also accepted that Henry is capable of "jumping dimensions" in terms of sheer attack potency. (His dimensionality doesn't change, only his raw power, refer to the above part if you have some doubt).

Henry is said to embody his setting, which therefore makes him invincible "in this place". Except, it's only when he fights a clone of himself, possessing the same setting as him, that he "upgrade" himself to 13D/to being able to destroy the Blank Space.

Henry state the following : "It doesn't matter what kind of person you are, what kind of creature or strange thing you are. No matter from which story, what novel, what comic you come from, in this place, I'm invincible, I am the setting."
(Note : I've uploaded two different translation, but they roughly mean the same.)

Seeing as how Henry is able to power-up through dimension, even against himself, alongside his statement, it's not impossible to assume that Henry can reach any number of finite dimension depending on his opponent. Be it 14D, 15D, 154D or anything.

b. The case of Yan Sen or how meta stuff helps us.

If you agree with the "a" part, then everything is going fine and what I will propose is only a result of a logical conjecture.

Henry is capable to go to any "finite" length in terms of dimensions, that's what we established previously, however, he's unable to catch up to Yan Sen. Why ?

Because Yan Sen is above/beyond the setting.

What would be above a setting that can go to any number of arbitrary dimensions ? Something that is completely out of reach by such a jump. Meaning that, for Yan Sen to be above it, he would need to be infinite in comparison, meaning High 1-B.

Summary : Henry can reach up to any arbitrary number of dimensions depending on his opponent. Yan Sen becomes High 1-B (A possible rating is fine too)

Bonus : While I'm confident with the first part, I'm unsure about the second one, despite people telling me it's fine. However, I realized later that with the quote "He is above the setting" we can establish that even if only the first part is fine, Yan Sen would still be one dimensions higher, making Henry 13D and Yan Sen 14D.

Not really hoping for anything but eh, who knows.

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Agree : LuffyRuffy46307, KingNanaya

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Isn't this 1-A tho? Being above setting implies r-f no?
Not really. We don't know the exact way he's "above the setting" but the fact he can still be interacted with by lower beings (Henry, for example) would be an antifeat, probably.

I suppose a "low 1-A" might be possible, but that's not really the privileged option here.
 
It would just be for that final form of yan sen. Did henry ever interact with that form? Iirc it clearly showed that yan sen was basically toying with him by twisting both him and space and then creating a copy to fight him.
 
It would just be for that final form of yan sen.
His "above the setting" statement was already accepted for all of his forms, since it's not a thing he "suddenly gained" when he transformed. Henry couldn't catch up to him even when he wasn't in immortal emperor form.
Did henry ever interact with that form?
I mean, they fought and punched each other. There is also the time skip and Yan Sen admitting he "got serious in the end". Seems too much of an antifeat for 1-A.
 
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