Code Lyoko: Great revision of the verse part 1

[Franstel]

This CRT aim to revise the scaling of the entire verse which stayed limited to guesswork for years. It will be divided in several parts, here we are going to focus on the AP of the non god tiers.

Real World​

Characters in the real world curently scale to 10-A, possibly 9-C for being able to put up a fight against Xanaified people which are at an uncalulated 9-C for showing superhuman feat.

With this calc, Xanaified people in the real world will be upgraded to 9-B (2401,482 kJ), other characters will downscale from it as while they are not as strong, they are still able to harm and take blows from them.

On Lyoko
This calc put the Megatank's AP at 0,186 ton. Now, it's left to wonder where does everyone scale with it.
Fortunaly, Code Lyoko possess its own AP system in canon. The AP in Code Lyoko is the amount of HP (which is also canon since the series happen in a virtual world with video games mecanics) an attack can take.
Although, the Megatanks are stated to be able to take 50 HP in a single strike in the first episode, it likely was retconed later in the series, as post-season 1, every attack from the Megatanks are able to kill the Lyoko Warrior in a single blow even when they are fully healed despite the fact they have a total of 100 HP.
Then by that logic the amount of force needed to take 1 HP is 1/100 of that value.

Force needed to take a single HP: 0,186/100= 0,00186 ton. (Wall level)
The AP of the characters on Lyoko will then be decided by the formula (Amount of HP they can take in a single blow*0,00186 ton).

Thus the characters with an AP of 10 like the Kankrelats (As seen here) will have an AP of 0,00186 ton*10 aka 0,0186 ton (Small Building level). I'll put the detailled AP and HP for a few monsters under a spoiler.

Spoiler: AP values for some monster

Krankrelats	AP= 10
Tarentula	AP=20
Creeper	AP= 40

To get the durability of a character we take 1/8 of the minimum force neeeded to take all of their HP in a single blow.
The Lyoko Warriors (including William) have 100 HP each so since taking 100HP= 0,186 ton we apply the One Shot gap of 8x to get their base durability.
0,186/8= 0.02325 ton (Small Building level).
For the base attack of the LW and Willam without their weapons, they will be at "At most Wall level" (downscaling from 0,00186 ton) considering that pure physical attack are often used to gain time in the series but are never stated to do any damage to their foes. Shown well when Odd was boxing a Creeper, even by hitting its weak point multiples times and the fact that the Creeper have the worst durability out of every monster on Lyoko he couldn't deal meaningful damage. Thus, they downscale for the needed AP to take 1 HP.

The LW when they have their weapons are able to block for some time both Megatank's blast (Aelita even managed to break one) and William's attacks who could one shot them. They have also shown to be able to kill Wiliam and the other LW in one shot.

So with their weapons, they will scale to Small Building level (0,186 ton) same for their durability. In the end, their scaling will look like that.

AP: At most Wall level normally (Downscaling from 0,00186 ton, Their physical attacks without weapons never did any meaningfull damage to any enemy on Lyoko, often portrayed as powerless without their weapons), Small Building level with their weapons (0,186 ton, With their weapons, they can block for some time Megatank's blast and William's attacks who could previously one shot them, they can also one shot other LW.)

Durability: Small Building level normally (0,02325 ton, Scaling to the 1/8 of the minimal value to deplete all of their HP in a single blow), higher with weapons (0,186 ton, With their weapons they can block attacks who could previously one shot them.)

Verse Page
The Power of the Verse will be changed to Scaling on the Verse page.
This part:

While normal humans in the series are just that, normal humans, they have survived some suspiciously lethal falls and shrugged off blunt force trauma from time to time, putting them in a similar vein to Avatar Characters in real life. In the virtual world, their durability and striking strength feats are Building level (surviving attacks from a Megatank which can bring down large building-sized towers, Ulrich several times parrying these attacks, albeit with great both are with great strain).

Will be changed to:

Characters in real life downscale from William door busting calc (2401,482 kJ) as despite being weaker than Xanaified people they are still strong enough to survive their attacks and wounds them in return). Xanaified people will directly scale to that value.
The force needed to take 1 HP is calculated to be 1/100 of the Megatank's blast calculations. (0,00186 ton)
The AP of the characters will be determined by the formula: (Amount of HP the character can take in a single attack)x(Force needed to take 1 HP).
The Durability will be determined by taking an 1/8 of the minimal AP value it would recquire to deplete all of their HP in a single blows.

For the main characters, the Lyoko Warriors, and William their base AP will downscale from the value needed to take 1 HP as their physical attaks without weapons are never shown to be able to take any HP.
With their weapons they will scale to 0,186 ton (in both AP and durability) as they can block for some time Megatank's blast and William's attacks who could previously one shot them, they can also one shot other LW and William.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I loved this show as a kid.

Now then:

Real World​

Characters in the real world curently scale to 10-A, possibly 9-C for being able to put up a fight against Xanaified people which are at an uncalulated 9-C for showing superhuman feat.

With this calc, Xanaified people in the real world will be upgraded to 9-B (2401,482 kJ), other characters will downscale from it as while they are not as strong, they are still able to harm and take blows from them.

This is fine.

On Lyoko
This calc put the Megatank's AP at 0,186 ton. Now, it's left to wonder where does everyone scale with it.
Fortunaly, Code Lyoko possess its own AP system in canon. The AP in Code Lyoko is the amount of HP (which is also canon since the series happen in a virtual world with video games mecanics) an attack can take.
Although, the Megatanks are stated to be able to take 50 HP in a single strike in the first episode, it likely was retconed later in the series, as post-season 1, every attack from the Megatanks are able to kill the Lyoko Warrior in a single blow even when they are fully healed despite the fact they have a total of 100 HP.
Then by that logic the amount of force needed to take 1 HP is 1/100 of that value.

This, however, is iffy. You'd first need to bring scans linking their AP to the HP system.

To get the durability of a character we take 1/8 of the minimum force neeeded to take all of their HP in a single blow.
The Lyoko Warriors (including William) have 100 HP each so since taking 100HP= 0,186 ton we apply the One Shot gap of 8x to get their base durability.
0,186/8= 0.02325 ton (Small Building level).

You don't use our one shot gap unless such exists in the verse proper. If they get one shotted by the attack, then they simply don't scale to it at all. You don't apply downscaling in this way.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Real world stuff looks good, may need to look at rest after work.

 

[Franstel]

This, however, is iffy. You'd first need to bring scans linking their AP to the HP system.

AP is never directly as such in the show but each attack take a set amount of damage.

You don't use our one shot gap unless such exists in the verse proper. If they get one shotted by the attack, then they simply don't scale to it at all. You don't apply downscaling in this way.

Ah sorry, I just don't really know what to do with the durability.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

After watching the creeper clip I do want to say, it definitely looked like it was being affected by the punches, I'd be hard pressed to say odd didn't "win" that match even if it's HP wasn't depleting

 

[Darkmon_cns]

After watching the creeper clip I do want to say, it definitely looked like it was being affected by the punches, I'd be hard pressed to say odd didn't "win" that match even if it's HP wasn't depleting

It's also odd, at the end odd reacts like he had been blasted, (i think?) But clearly nothing happened, I'm not completely sure what's going on, it dosen't look like he's reacting to the enemy regaining balance

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

AP is never directly as such in the show but each attack take a set amount of damage.

Did the megatank take damage from destroying the tower? Is the cast able to damage it? If both of these are "yes", then they would scale to the value directly. Though we can give them an "at most" rating, acknowledging the megatank can one shot them.

The lesser enemies should get their own feats if possible.

 

[Franstel]

Did the megatank take damage from destroying the tower?

No

Is the cast able to damage it?

Not really, Megatanks possess a shell and no one can break it (aside from maybe the Kollossus but no one should scale to the Kollossus) and inside that shell there's its weak point, but any blows with a weapon on its weak point result in a one shot.

It's also odd, at the end odd reacts like he had been blasted, (i think?) But clearly nothing happened, I'm not completely sure what's going on, it dosen't look like he's reacting to the enemy regaining balance

For Odd acting weird, it's just his personality, he like to play a lot even in dire situation. The enemy was stuned but quickly regain composure and blasted Odd.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Not really, Megatanks possess a shell and no one can break it (aside from maybe the Kollossus but no one should scale to the Kollossus) and inside that shell there's its weak point, but any blows with a weapon on its weak point result in a one shot.

Then yeah, they shouldn't scale at all to it, we would need to find other feats.

 

[Franstel]

Then yeah, they shouldn't scale at all to it, we would need to find other feats.

They can't scale to the attack directly ? Aelita managed to break a megatank blast in two blows in episode 56 and Ulrich can parry their blast for a few seconds like in episode 25. Plus not even other Megatank's can break a Megatank shell.