• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Choyun and Suhyeon both reach all UNDETECTABLE stats in their final battle, the same stats Johan Seong has.

Proof:
Johan's stats as of Chapter 151
Suhyeon's stats in Chapter 157
Choyun's stats in Chapter 156

The point of this content revision thread is to make the following changes:

Choyun

AP: Wall Level ----> Small Building + (Comparable to Johan)
Speed: Supersonic ----> Supersonic+ (Comparable to Johan)
Durability: Wall Level ----> Small Building + (Comparable to Johan)
Lifting Strength: Class 5 ----> Class 25 (Comparable to Johan)
Striking Strength: Wall Level ----> Small Building + (Comparable to Johan)

Suhyeon

AP: Wall Level ----> Small Building + (Comparable to Johan)
Speed: Supersonic ----> Supersonic+ (Comparable to Johan)
Durability: Wall Level ----> Small Building + (Comparable to Johan)
Lifting Strength: Class 5 ----> Class 25 (Comparable to Johan)
Striking Strength: Wall Level ----> Small Building + (Comparable to Johan)
 
I disagree with them being comparable to Johan. It is flat-out implied that there are levels of undetectable stats. They're just unquantifiably above what a "DX" character would be. There is no strong reason to believe that they are even relative to HFBD Johan (the Johan that first appeared in Questism who also was undetectable and far weaker than Johan in his latest appearance).
 
Suhyeon himself says that there might be levels in undetectable because he doubts they are at Johan's level. As of now, there is no proof they scale to him.
 
Suhyeon himself says that there might be levels in undetectable because he doubts they are at Johan's level. As of now, there is no proof they scale to him.
he never doubts that Choyun is at Johan's level, you just made that up lol. he brings it up as a possibility but that's it.
 
he never doubts that Choyun is at Johan's level, you just made that up lol. he brings it up as a possibility but that's it
He says it in a tone which leads you to believe he see it possible that Choyun is at his level. Regardless, its not my burden of proof. Prove that Choyun is as strong as Johan.
 
I mean, since you think Suhyeon's word means so much, he did say he was the only one who could defeat him.
Its obvious Suhyeon meant of people willing and wanting to fight Choyun but if you wanna get disingenuous that's fine. Even if I concede that, it doesn't mean Choyun is stronger than Johan, maybe Choyun wears a certain perfume that Johan is deathly allergic to, who knows?
 
Its obvious Suhyeon meant of people willing and wanting to fight Choyun but if you wanna get disingenuous that's fine. Even if I concede that, it doesn't mean Choyun is stronger than Johan, maybe Choyun wears a certain perfume that Johan is deathly allergic to, who knows?
I was joking but Johan isn't too unwilling to fight Choyun, I believe he would if he had to. Also, at this point, Choyun had Strategic Seal which would've hard countered Johan hard so I see what you mean.

Maybe we'll have to wait and see. Or I'll reread and find something.

Not being able to upscale Choyun and Suhyeon while watching Dowan cruise off of that Sunjae feat for months might be my 13th reason, im ngl.
 
I was joking but Johan isn't too unwilling to fight Choyun, I believe he would if he had to. Also, at this point, Choyun had Strategic Seal which would've hard countered Johan hard so I see what you mean.

Maybe we'll have to wait and see. Or I'll reread and find something.

Not being able to upscale Choyun and Suhyeon while watching Dowan cruise off of that Sunjae feat for months might be my 13th reason, im ngl.
Dowan?
 
Back
Top