Cell (Toei) Small Revision

[TyranoDoom30]

On the current page, we have this bit on the Speed section:

Infinite (Much faster than before, comparable to Other World Saga Goku who flew from Grand Kai's planet to Hell in his base form)

Problem is that it's assuming Cell is comparable to a Goku who scales to Paikuhan, who blitzes and one shots Cell so hard it's not even funny.

Even the profile for him knows this

Infinite (Traversed the infinite-sized afterlife while suppressed, and effortlessly blitzed Toeiverse Super Perfect Cell [albeit by catching him off-guard])

Because speed = strength in DB, if Paikuhan is ridiculously above Cell in strength, so should his speed. Goku in his Base scales to him therefore he obviously does the same. Therefore, i feel like the justification for Cell's speed should be changed and remove any scaling to Anoyoichi Budokai arc.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Nah, see that was Goku at the beginning of the Saga, before he randomly just became hundreds of times stronger

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Nah, see that was Goku at the beginning of the Saga, before he randomly just became hundreds of times stronger

Oh, makes sense. But i still see a problem in Goku's page where that feat is put in his Cell Games key when it's later where he should theoretically be stronger. Both it and the Cell page makes it look like he scales to the Goku who fought Paikuhan, and that is the elephant i the room. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the arc right before the Boo arc?

Toei powerscaling is hot garbage, god damn

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Oh, makes sense. But i still see a problem in Goku's page where that feat is put in his Cell Games key when it's later where he should theoretically be stronger. Both it and the Cell page makes it look like he scales to the Goku who fought Paikuhan, and that is the elephant i the room. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the arc right before the Boo arc?

Toei powerscaling is hot garbage, god damn

The Goku who has the feat of crossing the afterlife is basically the same Goku cell fought, it was just after he died, the tournament arc took place later and Goku magically managed to fight on par with weighted pikkon in his base form

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

At best Goku was a little stronger and faster than his original fight with Perfect Cell since he got a further ass whooping from the Cell Juniors and then took a Senzu Bean to heal, so he probably got a Zenkai Boost from it, but even with that Goku was still shook by Perfect Cell going all out let alone Super Perfect Cell who was about to blitz the Base Goku who performed that feat anyways had Pikkon not intervened.