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Caterpie vs Tree

Stomp in favor of the tree actually

Caterpie only has melee attacks, so it will take a while to defeat the entire tree and is weak to poison

The tree is also pretty much an entire forest
 
But bug wasn't weak to poison in g1 though? Although there may have been a glitch of sorts involving poison and bind but that's unrelated.
 
Actually in Red and Blue I'm pretty sure bug was weak to poison

But that's irrelevant now, let's just ignore everything I said
 
Remember that Tree covers 43 hectares of space, as it is a clonal colony. With each tree shedding poison everywhere, Caterpie will get the poisoned status and die.


Tree wins, but takes heavy damage.
 
Omegagoldfish said:
Remember that Tree covers 43 hectares of space, as it is a clonal colony. With each tree shedding poison everywhere, Caterpie will get the poisoned status and die.


Tree wins, but takes heavy damage.
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Shield Dust.
 
Wouldn't the tree's poison be effectively Poison Powder and go right past Shield Dust?

"When the Pokémon is damaged by an attack, any additional effects are negated (similar to the attacker having Sheer Force, but without increasing damage). For example, Body Slam would only deal damage and not have its usual 30% chance of causing Paralysis. It does not stop moves that do not cause damage, like Thunder Wave. Shield Dust also prevents poisoning from Poison Touch."
 
It's poison everything. The trunk, leaves and branches are poison. The dust that flies up when the tree is damaged is poison. The fruit, considering I don't think Caterpie can knock down all 43 hectares of the tree before getting hungry, is poison too, and is the most crippling of all.
 
Status probably. It deals damage over time, not all at once. Now, if a tree fell and squished Caterpie, then that's damage.
 
Gemmysaur said:
Status probably. It deals damage over time, not all at once. Now, if a tree fell and squished Caterpie, then that's damage.
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It is status, but isn't negated.

"The dust that flies up when the tree is damaged is poison."

-Gemmysaur.

That looks like the move PoisonPowder, which is not blocked by Shield Dust. Poison as a status ailment does 1/8th of the sufferer's total health per turn, meaning it's extremely fast acting. Considering that actual tree toxins have both acute and chronic effects, enough powder/poison fruit means that Caterpie will fall.
 
Kaltias said:
There is the fact that poison doesn't kill Caterpie but rather makes it faint
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Judgement from a max Sp.Attack, modest nature level 100 Arceus holding a Normal Gem would also make a level one Caterpie, "only faint".


So...
 
That's a lovely strawman that you have here. There is a tiny little difference between taking a tier 2 attack and a poison based one you know.

Also why you are assuming that the poison of the tree is as strong as the one used by Pokémons?
 
Idk. Though I don't really recall poison being portrayed as lethal. More like something that makes them sick
 
A tree by itself can make you sick. Standing inside an entire forest will kill you from pain.
 
Getting it inside the body, be it by fruit or dust inhalation, it inflames the mouth and throat, and causes intense abdominal pain. From the outside, not so much.
 
Kaltias said:
That's a lovely strawman that you have here. There is a tiny little difference between taking a tier 2 attack and a poison based one you know.
Also why you are assuming that the poison of the tree is as strong as the one used by Pokémons?
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It was an amazingly stupid argument you had, that being "only faints". To highlight the absurdity, I brought up the most powerful attack in the series. Also complete crap about poison strength. I'm assuming a literal forest of poison will do as much as a single Grimer here, so not all that much.
 
First of all, chill.

Second, Pokèmon like Muk and Grimer are walking industrial pollution so poisonous that plants won't grow anymore where they passed and cause violent fevers via touching someone. So yeah
 
a tree vs a caterpillar, whats the obvious reason? a tree, as a tree can just fall on caterpie, and so making the winner, the tree
 
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