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I previously posted a thread where I put forth that Carnage (Marvel Comics) should be updated to include the feats and powers displayed in Extreme Carnage, Carnage (Vol. 3), Carnage Reigns, and Death of the Venomverse. In retrospect I should've posted that in the CRT forum to begin with, but I'm new here. With that in mind, I was told to create a revision thread here, so that is what I am doing.
Extreme Carnage (Cletus Kasady)
Extreme Carnage (Cletus Kasady)
- The result of Cletus Kasady's "codex" indwelling the Extrembiote—a fusion between an Extremis-mutated symbiote dragon and an Iron Man Model 70 suit (Sources: Extreme Carnage: Omega; Carnage (Vol. 3) #11)
- As a symbiote dragon, the Extrembiote should scale to all the feats associated with the Grendel and its ilk (e.g being able to rip through defensive spells cast by sorcerers as powerful as Dr. Strange (Source: Black Cat (Vol. 2) #1), adapt to anything that doesn't kill them (Source: King in Black: Black Panther), pass through vibranium-powered force-fields, and fly at speeds fast enough to outpace the Silver Surfer (Source: Silver Surfer: Black #2, #5)—albeit while Norrin is in a greatly-weakened state), as well as the Iron Man Armor Model 70 or Stark Sentinel Mark II depending on what it's merged with
- Attack Potency: At least City level, if not Planet level—should scale to the base Extrembiote's stats, if not Dark Carnage's and/or the Grendel's; is said to be equal in power to God-Butcher Carnage at the time of Carnage Reigns and Web of Carnage.
- Speed: Unknown, at least Hypersonic—should scale to Dark Carnage's stats
- Lifting Strength: At least Class K—should scale to base Extrembiote & symbiote dragon feats
- Striking Strength: At least City level—should scale to base Extrembiote & symbiote dragon feats
- Strong enough to tear through Mark II Stark Sentinels modified to combat the Extrembiote (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #14)
- Durability: At least City level—should scale to base Extrembiote & symbiote dragon feats
- Survived the assimilated Iron Man armour's RT Node/Arc Reactor being overloaded by a Venom Strike from Spider-Man (Miles Morales), which created an explosion powerful enough to turn a diner into a crater, with Carnage being at ground zero of the blast (Reference 1, Source: Carnage Reigns Alpha)
- After merging with the Stark Sentinel Mark II, could withstand and absorb Miles Morales' full-power Venom Strike (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #13)
- Kept up with and tanked attacks from the Scorpion, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Taskmaster, and Electro (Francine Frye) -- whose powers are identical to Max Dillon's (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #14; Reference 2 & Reference 3, Source: Miles Morales: Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #7)
- Iron Man—whose Dragonslayer Armor was created for the express purpose of slaying the Extrembiote--blasted him with everything his suit had, requiring Miles to recharge it with his Venom Strike, and Extreme Carnage got back up like it was nothing. (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Miles Morales: Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #7)
- Can withstand being blasted by Iron Man and Iron Spider's Repulsor beams (Reference 1, Source: Carnage Reigns Omega)
- Tanked an Iron Spider-augmented Venom Strike from Miles and said it tickled (Reference 1: Source: Carnage Reigns Omega)
- Took a Hail Mary plan from Iron Man flying his Dragonslayer Suit into the Extrembiote's chest and using it as an EMP (completely draining its arc reactor in the process) to defeat it, but even then a piece survived and was able to regenerate (Reference 1, Reference 2, & Reference 3, Source: Carnage Reigns Omega)
- Intelligence: Average, same as base Carnage
- Stamina: Superhuman (Should upscale from base Carnage)
- Range: Extended Melee Range; Several to Hundreds of Meters with tentacles, tail, and RT Node blasts
- Standard Equipment: The Extrembiote; Iron Man Model 70 armor (formerly, destroyed); Mark II Stark Sentinel (formerly, destroyed)
- Powers/Abilities:
- Mind Manipulation/Possession:
- Cletus can use a fragment of Knull's power he inherited from Absolute Carnage to impose his will on other symbiotes, corrupting and even outright controlling them (shown below are the Carnageized versions of the Scream, Agony, Phage, Riot, and Lasher symbiotes), though it's possible for the symbiotes and/or their hosts to resist. (Sources: Extreme Carnage Alpha; Extreme Carnage: Scream; Extreme Carnage: Agony; Extreme Carnage: Phage; Extreme Carnage: Riot; Extreme Carnage: Lasher)
- Can use the Extrembiote to read people's memories via a sample of their blood (Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #8, #11)
- Mind-bombed the Rascal Symbiote (which is an offshoot of Eddie Brock's Bedlam persona and should thus be more powerful than the average symbiote), causing it to become more feral and aggressive as a result (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #24; Reference 2, Source: Red Goblin #6; Reference 3 & Reference 4, Source Venom (Vol. 5) #25)
- Cletus can use a fragment of Knull's power he inherited from Absolute Carnage to impose his will on other symbiotes, corrupting and even outright controlling them (shown below are the Carnageized versions of the Scream, Agony, Phage, Riot, and Lasher symbiotes), though it's possible for the symbiotes and/or their hosts to resist. (Sources: Extreme Carnage Alpha; Extreme Carnage: Scream; Extreme Carnage: Agony; Extreme Carnage: Phage; Extreme Carnage: Riot; Extreme Carnage: Lasher)
- Duplication: Can create duplicates of himself (Reference 1, Source: Carnage Reigns Alpha)
- Shapeshifting:
- Can merge the Extrembiote with buildings and reshape their interior at-will (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #8)
- ("Complete change of appearance" subtype): Can shapeshift himself or his duplicates to resemble other people (Reference 1, Source: Carnage Reigns Alpha)
- Can transform into an armoured symbiote dragon (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Miles Morales: Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #7)
- Energy Manipulation:
- Can create plasma constructs using the RT nodes on the assimilated Iron Man suit (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #13), and coat them in symbiote matter to augment them further (Reference 2, Source: Red Goblin #5)
- Can fire energy beams from his mouth powerful enough to slam Iron Man and Miles Morales into the ground hard enough to crater it (Reference 1, Source: Carnage Reigns Omega)
- Hacking:
- When powered up, can hack into Stark Industries' communications network (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #13)
- Can broadcast a signal that turns anyone who hears it into a bloodthirsty berserker under Cletus' control (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #13; Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #14)
- Technology Manipulation:
- Can infect people with offshoots of the Extrembiote, which can merge with technology to create cyborg symbiotes under Cletus' control (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #13; Reference 2, Source: Miles Morales: Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #7)
- Can assimilate other technology into the Extrembiote—replacing the damaged Iron Man Model 70 armor with a Mark II Stark Sentinel (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #13)
- Mind Manipulation/Possession:
- The Carnage symbiote resurrected by assimilating a piece of the Grendel symbiote dragon, imbuing it with some of Knull's power (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Sources: Web of Venom: Carnage Born)
- Attack Potency: High Hyperverse level
- Tore the Spot to shreds (Reference 1, Reference 2, & Reference 3, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #3)
- Easily massacred the surviving dwarves of Nidavellir. (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #9)
- Fought evenly with Knull (though Knull wasn't using the full extent of his power) and instantaneously healed from being cut in half by All-Black (which can slay gods per Gorr the God Butcher and Knull's feats); withstood being blasted with a beam of Necro-Power without injury; though they took time out to kill Captain America (impaled by Carnage's arm-blade), Magneto (decapitated by Knull using All-Black), Thor (cut in half by Knull using All-Black), Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Clea the Sorceress Supreme (all one-shot by being impaled by Carnage's tendrils) (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Decapitated a symbiote-controlled Celestial with a single slash after growing to match it in height (Reference 1, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Killed Knull with a single stab from All-Blood, absorbing his symbiote (All-Black the Necrosword) and powers (Reference 1, Sources: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Effortlessly defeated over a dozen Venom variants & related symbiotes (pictured: Venom Dreamstone + Symbiote Spider-Man (Eddie Brock), Silence (Andi Benton), Agent Anti-Venom (Flash Thompson) -- who is himself bonded to a symbiote-dragon and capable of fighting with eldritch gods like Set, Gwenompool (Gwen Poole), Life-Model Venom (Eddie Brock Life-Model Decoy), Venomized Jeff the Landshark, Kid Venom (Kintaro), Venom Noir (Eddie Brock), Venomsaurus Rex (Eddie Brockiosaurus), Chaos Engine (???), Black Fang (Dilann), Host Rider (Robbie Reyes + Spirit of Vengeance), Necroko (Ellie Ellison), and Major Leagues Venom (Ed Brock); not pictured Asgardia (the daughter of Agent Venom and Valkyrie; wielding a Necrosword and Mjolnir), and a battalion of Venomized Valkyries); killing almost all of them with little-to-no effort. (Reference 1, Reference 2, Reference 3, & Reference 4, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Speed: Infinite to Immeasurable
- Able to ambush the Silver Surfer and keep up with Knull (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #10; Reference 3, Source: Death of the Venomverse #4; Reference 4, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Lifting Strength: Stellar to Immeasurable
- Restrained and subdued Hydro-Man despite him being made of living water (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage Forever)
- Should scale to Knull
- Striking Strength: High Hyperverse level up to High Outerverse level
- Able to fight on-par with Knull and decapitate a Celestial with a single blow (Reference 1, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Durability: High Hyperverse level up to High Outerverse level
- Fought and defeated a somewhat-weakened Malekith the Accursed with low difficulty and extracted his Venom/All-Black codex (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #7)
- Laughed off a fire-blast spell cast by the latter
- Dipping its tendrils in molten Asgardian metal caused it discomfort and pain, but no actual harm. (Reference 1, Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #10)
- Survived being engulfed in the plasma of magical stars used to smelt uru and imbue divine weapons with planet-destroying power for a prolonged period, though it caused the symbiote extreme pain and would've ultimately killed it; heat described as capable of melting entire planets (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #10)
- A weakened Morlun tried to eat Carnage thinking it was a totemic avatar and burnt his tongue, calling Carnage an embodiment of death and destruction. (Reference 1, Source: Web of Carnage)
- Regenerated from being spattered by a grenade custom-made to kill Earth-31's Venom, declaring itself immune to fire and sonics thanks to All-Blood. (Reference 1, Reference 2, Reference 3, Source: Web of Carnage)
- Regenerated from being cut in half by Knull using All-Black (Reference 1, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Withstood being blasted by a beam of Knull's Necro-Power (Reference 1, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Intelligence: Above Average
- Possesses intimate knowledge of Dark Elf culture and interdimenaional travel
- Stamina: Infinite
- Range: Extended Melee Range, Several to Hundreds of Meters
- Standard Equipment:
- All-Blood the Necrospear—A divine weapon on-par with Mjolnir, Gungnir, and All-Black the Necrosword. All-Blood was intended to have the same properties as All-Black (and was even initially intended to be a sword), and can seemingly negate healing factors (as seen with Venomized Wolverine) and immortality, letting Carnage kill beings as powerful as gods and cosmic entities with a single stab (as seen with the Silver Surfer and Knull). (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #10; Reference 3, Source: Death of the Venomverse #4; Reference 4, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Powers/Abilities:
- Fate Manipulation (?): Its very existence taints the Web of Life and Destiny, corrupting the strands into tendrils of red and black slime (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #4)
- Mind Manipulation:
- Mind-bombed the Rosvelg, a god whose duty is to punish sinners by performing an oratory version of the Penance Stare, driving it insane and causing it to lapse into a coma. (Reference 1, Reference 2, & Reference 3, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #6)
- Power Absorption:
- Ripped out Hydro-Man's soul molecule and assimilated it--effects never specified, but seemingly gave it the ability to create red lightning and appears to have augmented its ability to stay in its humanoid form sans host (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage Forever; Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #1, #2)
- Restrained and subdued Hydro-Man despite him being made of living water (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage Forever)
- Absorbed one of the Spot's Darkforce portals, letting it access the Spotted Dimension to teleport and create portals (Reference 1, Reference 2, & Reference 3, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #3)
- Assimilated uru by consuming the corpses of dead dwarves--becoming able to withstand the power of the magical stellar plasma in the process--and used it to create All-Blood the Necrospear (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #10; Reference 3, Source: Death of the Venomverse #4; Reference 4, Source: Death of the Venomverse #5)
- Contemplated taking Morlun's Inheritor powers for itself, but decided against it after realizing the Web of Life and Destiny was trying to shackle it. (Reference 1, Source: Web of Carnage)
- Absorbed Powers:
- Wolverine (Laura Kinney)'s healing factor,
- Ant-Man's size-shifting
- Mania's Hell-Mark (letting it conjure hellfire and summon demons, and making it immune to flames)
- Electro's electrokinesis
- Shriek's sonic powers (making it immune to sonics)
- Man-Thing's empathic corrosive touch
- Anti-Carnage's antibodies (making it immune to anti-symbiotes) -- negated via continuity error in Carnage (Vol. 4)
- Silver Surfer's Power Cosmic (letting him manifest a corrupted version of the Surfer's board)
- Knull's King in Black/Necro-Power (which also should technically give it all of Eddie Brock's current set of powers, such as mental time-travel and temporal duplicate/offshoot creation). (Reference 1, Source: Death of the Venomverse #4)
- Meridius' King in Black power (Reference 1, Source Venom (Vol. 5) #30)
- Possession:
- Can infect others with offshoots of itself either under its direct control or indwelled by a copy of Cletus Kasady's consciousness (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #2)
- Easily killed and reanimated Kilereth, Morveita, Y'Dreis, and Varuen (all Dark Elves and elite members of the Black Bile Clan);. (Reference 1 & Reference 2, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #4; Reference 3, Reference 4, & Reference 5, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #5)
- Infected a wolf-god with an offshoot of itself (Reference 1, Source: Carnage (Vol. 3) #5)
- Portal Creation/Teleportation/Dimensional Travel:
- Obtained from killing the Spot and absorbing one of his Darkforce portals
- Used to deflect oncoming attacks
- Travelled the Multiverse testing and honing its new powers by hunting and killing dozens of variants of Venom, assimilating their symbiotes if it thought they would augment it (including the likes of King-Pain (Wilson Fisk) and a Venomized Bodega Bandit): (Sources: Extreme Venomverse #2, #5; Web of Venomverse Unlimited #3, #4, #7, #8; Death of the Venomverse #1 - #5)
- Soul Destruction
- Completely destroyed Space Venom (Eddie Brock)'s codex (Reference 1, Source Venom (Vol. 5) #30)
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