Cad Bane Resistance to Mind Manipulation

[ByAsura]

Most people seem to disagree, so wait a little.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

okay

 

[Eficiente]

I can't agree with Supernatural Willpower unless the proile would prove for anyone who reads it that his will is superhuman and what he did he couldn't have done w/o a superhuman will. Nothing already said here proves that.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I can't agree with Supernatural Willpower unless the proile would prove for anyone who reads it that his will is superhuman and what he did he couldn't have done w/o a superhuman will. Nothing already said here proves that.

so no need for crt's or anything here?

 

[FinePoint]

I can't agree with Supernatural Willpower unless the proile would prove for anyone who reads it that his will is superhuman and what he did he couldn't have done w/o a superhuman will. Nothing already said here proves that.

Well, the proof is sort of in Star Wars as a whole. Jedi mind tricks are regularly shown to instantly trick humans with just one Jedi.
In this case, a mind trick 3x as strong couldn't do it even after some time.

We know that having strong willpower is what lets you resist mind tricks.
Therefore, Cad Bane's willpower must be at least 3x stronger than most humans.
And remember that the criteria for Supernatural Willpower is based off real humans, not the status quo for the verse.
So if an entire alien species has willpower to resist it, that doesn't technically prove it doesn't require supernatural willpower, it could just mean that entire species has it, which is fine. We grant entire species things like Flight and laser vision, this isn't that extreme.

 

[FinePoint]

Would people be willing to put "Possibly"?

 

[Eficiente]

Well, the proof is sort of in Star Wars as a whole. Jedi mind tricks are regularly shown to instantly trick humans with just one Jedi.
In this case, a mind trick 3x as strong couldn't do it even after some time.

We know that having strong willpower is what lets you resist mind tricks.
Therefore, Cad Bane's willpower must be at least 3x stronger than most humans.

We don't know if it scales that way and 3 Jedi doing it makes it mind trick "3x as strong" rather than simply "better". It was stated to work on the weak-minded, that's not the same as willpower, but some unknown strength of mind that could be intelligence or the capacity for it. By that sense you could be strong-minded, have less willpower than a regular human, and still not be affected by the mind trick.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

We don't know if it scales that way and 3 Jedi doing it makes it mind trick "3x as strong" rather than simply "better". It was stated to work on the weak-minded, that's not the same as willpower, but some unknown strength of mind that could be intelligence or the capacity for it. By that sense you could be strong-minded, have less willpower than a regular human, and still not be affected by the mind trick.

so we drop this revision basically? since there's nothing to add for cad bane?

 

[ByAsura]

Should I close this?

 

[FinePoint]

Should I close this?

Sure. It seems like the evidence is vague.
Maybe if we get some more lore statements down the line.