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P4 cast can't do it in the real world@Smashkabab is correct. Though I'll provide the scans that support what they're referencing.
-Mitsuru Kirijo states that it is possible for one to summon their Persona in the real world under specific circumstances (which are described in the video).
-Morgana confirms that even the "real world" is simply a product of Cognition as well.
It's only a hypothetical ability that happens under specific circumstances, which the P4 cast wouldn't have experienced.
Ren has a real speed feat without his personas in the real world + third eye he should get a key for without his persona being used tbhRegardless though, I would like to remind people- As there are certainly going to be a few of those who will try to use this as a means to have Persona User's be relegated to a bunch of powerless teens- That for the means of the VS Battles on this site, it is assumed that said character's are in a state mentally and physically where they can use their abilities, anyways. So regardless of if Ren is only effective in The Metaverse, he will still be using those power's in Vs Debates, as there would be little to no other reason to have him in Vs Debates.
I'm pretty sure some guys already tried and failed to get that through. You're more than welcome to try to get that added if you want though.Ren has a real speed feat without his personas in the real world + third eye he should get a key for without his persona being used tbh
^^^As others have said before, verse-equalization would allow for Ren (or any Persona user from the "modern" games, for that matter) utilize their abilities in situations where they'd usually be unable to. There's also the in-lore explanation as to how Persona users can potentially use their Personas in the real world, and between those two points, there's not really any reason to question the logistics behind a certain character using an ability in a certain location.Regardless though, I would like to remind people- As there are certainly going to be a few of those who will try to use this as a means to have Persona User's be relegated to a bunch of powerless teens- That for the means of the VS Battles on this site, it is assumed that said character's are in a state mentally and physically where they can use their abilities, anyways. So regardless of if Ren is only effective in The Metaverse, he will still be using those power's in Vs Debates, as there would be little to no other reason to have him in Vs Debates.
I wouldn't be against "real world" keys for Persona users, assuming there's enough information to fully create them.Ren has a real speed feat without his personas in the real world + third eye he should get a key for without his persona being used tbh