Box Office Sweep (Mario vs Spider-Man)

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Mario (Illumination) vs Spider-Man

Cat Mario is used; Speed is equalized

Mario is allowed to use the Super Star

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[AStrangeverse]

not much Mario can really do here, since Miles' Webs, and therefore LS, are Class M, but Mario's doesn't even breach Class 1

that isn't even factoring his innate Spider Sense that'll make it damn near impossible for Mario to really hit him, especially when he's lacking in the range department

this may as well be a flat out stomp bro

 

[LaserPrecision]

Yeahhh, I haven't even watched Across The Spiderverse yet and I have about the same opinion. I think you'd be justified in allowing Mario the Superstar since it's only a temp amp and would make this far less one-sided. To clarify, not start off with Superstar, but have access to it so he can use it when desired.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

not much Mario can really do here, since Miles' Webs, and therefore LS, are Class M, but Mario's doesn't even breach Class 1

that isn't even factoring his innate Spider Sense that'll make it damn near impossible for Mario to really hit him, especially when he's lacking in the range department

this may as well be a flat out stomp bro

And that's ignoring that Miles upscales from his feat on top of it, specially with his electricity

 

[AStrangeverse]

And that's ignoring that Miles upscales from his feat on top of it, specially with his electricity

exactly my guy

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Yeahhh, I haven't even watched Across The Spiderverse yet and I have about the same opinion. I think you'd be justified in allowing Mario the Superstar since it's only a temp amp and would make this far less one-sided. To clarify, not start off with Superstar, but have access to it so he can use it when desired.

But then Star Mario would one-shot

 

[LaserPrecision]

But then Star Mario would one-shot

I get that, but Morales has Spider-Sense and is far more agile. And STILL has the Lifting Strength advantage. So I think it makes up for the TEMPORARY one-shot gap, no?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Yeahhh, I haven't even watched Across The Spiderverse yet and I have about the same opinion. I think you'd be justified in allowing Mario the Superstar since it's only a temp amp and would make this far less one-sided. To clarify, not start off with Superstar, but have access to it so he can use it when desired.

Gave him access to it.

 

[Phoenks]

Webbing still makes the star useless. No way around that LS.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Webbing still makes the star useless. No way around that LS.

I don't disagree, but I think it's closer now. Assuming that Mario actually gets a speed amp from the Super Star (The description makes it seem that way since it says he blitzes Bowser) + he's significantly more acrobatic. So I think it helps make it less one-sided than if he didn't have it.

 

[Phoenks]

I don't think it actually changed anything. A few webs and Mario is immobile regardless of a speed or AP amp.

He doesn't start with the star either.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Mario gets a speed advantage but Miles has still more precise acrobatics alongside precognition so he can still restrain Mario with webs

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Also that's all assuming Miles doesn't just clock Mario with the first trade considering Miles upscales from his High 8-C value which is already stronger than Mario's

 

[LaserPrecision]

I don't think it actually changed anything. A few webs and Mario is immobile regardless of a speed or AP amp.

He doesn't start with the star either.

Not starting it was so he'd actually benefit from the amp. Since if he starts with it, speed equalization negs the amp.

I agree with Morales still winning. Just don't think it'll be as easy due to a fairly large speed amp in Mario's favor. That said, it might be good if he had prior knowledge or was blood lusted so he uses the superstar immediately rather than getting restrained before he gets the chance.

 

[AStrangeverse]

literally nothing stops Miles from webbing Mario up through complex means like he did to Spot

 

[Phoenks]

I'm pretty sure this is a stomp either way. Miles starts with Class M webs regardless so Mario will always end up getting restrained with no way of getting out.

 

[AStrangeverse]

and isn't Spider-Verse characters getting an 8-B upgrade?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

And that's if Mario isn't left reeling from the first trade

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

and isn't Spider-Verse characters getting an 8-B upgrade?

High 8-C is from the same thread cuz 8-B got bunked

 

[LaserPrecision]

I think Morales handily wins, I just don't think it's a stomp if Mario starts the match using superstar since he has the win-con of having a blitz level amp + one-shot ap advantage (He prolly should be given prior knowledge or bloodlust so he uses superstar before getting tied up). But Morales as the acrobatic/mobility and incap via web win-con.

 

[Phoenks]

I think Morales handily wins, I just don't think it's a stomp if Mario starts the match using superstar since he has the win-con of having a blitz level amp + one-shot ap advantage (He prolly should be given prior knowledge or bloodlust so he uses superstar before getting tied up). But Morales as the acrobatic/mobility and incap via web win-con.

I don't think the "blitz worthy amp" will get past the precognition.

Miles simply precogs and webs him a single time and all of that mobility is gone.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I don't think the "blitz worthy amp" will get past the precognition.

Miles simply precogs and webs him a single time and all of that mobility is gone.

I haven't watched Across the Spiderverse yet, so I'll admit there's a lapse in my knowledge regarding Morales' precog. Has he used it to reliably predict, fight, and dodge attacks from someone who has a blitz worthy amp? And what are its best showings (The only one I saw from spoilers was him dodging attacks from The Spot while using his phone).

Again, not arguing Morales loses, I think he wins handily. But I don't think it's a stomp if Mario uses superstar immediately since he has his own win-cons. It'd just be a decisive win in Morales favor.