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Quick question, if an attack parts clouds and gets 5 kilotons but the attack on the ground is only 50 tons of TNT, would we still be able to scale the attack to the KE of parting the clouds?
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Blood Demon Art: Infinite Discussion (A Kimetsu No Yaiba Discussion Thread)
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Machmatej
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Out of all the discussion threads you could've asked this in, you chose like the one verse without a single cloud feat
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Gyutaro's. I know it's not gonna get accepted due to being an outlier and all but I need an answer, Also why'd the Muzan shockwave calc get rejected?
Machmatej
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Gyutaro's feat doesn't count because there were clouds in the manga, which is primary canon (Also hard to prove he actually moved clouds in the anime). And Muzan's feat got rejected due to lack of destruction for a supposed small city level attack, if I recall correctly.
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Anime additional feats are canon though? Does it still not count?
Machmatej
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Canon as long as the anime scenes don't contradict the manga. In this case, we know that there are clouds in the manga. So if there aren't any clouds in the anime (there are btw), it's contradictory.
Lilybitdun
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Why are the demons that have their justifications being comparable to Post-Demon Slayer Training Tanjiro listed as Subsonic+ when that Tanjiro key is Supersonic+?
Plus why is Tanjiro Supersonic+ when he's struggling against Kyogai's transonic technique and even compliments it?
Also wouldn't Rui being far faster than the slasher demon due to being an Lower Moon also apply to the ex-lower moon Kyogai whose using Transonic attacks? (Also weird that being far faster isn't giving Rui an at least rating)
Plus why is Tanjiro Supersonic+ when he's struggling against Kyogai's transonic technique and even compliments it?
Also wouldn't Rui being far faster than the slasher demon due to being an Lower Moon also apply to the ex-lower moon Kyogai whose using Transonic attacks? (Also weird that being far faster isn't giving Rui an at least rating)
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Atp I’m probably gonna make a crt to fix this discrepancy. Also tanjiro’s profile is hot ass and I need to fix this next. Also tanjiro is crippled in that fight still from the susumaru fight
Lilybitdun
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Also Swamp Demon scaling to Subsonic+ from Tanjiro dodging his point-blank attack seems like a huge violation of the "evading punches" rule since the Swamp Demon can't scale to someone that's 9x faster than him. Either the Swamp Demon's speed rating needs to be changed or that feat is invalid
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He was injured
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Yeah he got rag dolled so hard from Yahaba’s death attack
He was crippled like this lol
Lilybitdun
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What about the whole Kyogai being an ex-lower moon thing meaning he should be over 4x faster than his own attacks?
Epyriel
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This much isn’t an anti-feat considering Tanjiro had broken bones, was in terrible pain, struggling to walk, and disoriented by the constant spinning of the room, and yet at the end of the fight still managed to completely blitz his way through Kyogai’s spammed attacks.
Hmm, might want to take another look at doing some more calcs from this fight when I have more free time.
Lilybitdun
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Yeah I was thinking since the spinning of the room is compared to his transonic claw attacks and BDA being able to scale to physical ap now that it could be a decent feat
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LMAO SOMEONE ADDED TENGENS WIVES INTO THE VERSE PAGE. I HAVE TO GIVE THEM A PROFILE NOWYall ready for Tengen's wives next
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Help with the team profile
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Castorice made a coughing baby profile for demon slayer aswell
y’all ain’t ready for that
y’all ain’t ready for that
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What should the name of the team profile be?
team kamado
team kamaboko
kamado squad
kamaboko squad
team kamado
team kamaboko
kamado squad
kamaboko squad
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Kamaboko Squad
Lilybitdun
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Found a calc of the spider demon father breaking a rock that could be good support if evaluated https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ER_FATHER_HITS_A_ROCK_AND_RAISES_WATER_(Calc)
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Why's it in all caps
Lilybitdun
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idk I didn't make itWhy's it in all caps
speedster352
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So can Yorichi beat Demon King Tanjiro?
if the red blade works on him, he could.
otherwise the fact that he stat checks him wouldn't really matter unless he unlocked some other level of bullshit abilities in his later years.
Epyriel
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Yes. It was implied that if Yoriichi cut all 1800 pieces of Muzan with his red blade that Muzan would have perished.
Demon King Tanjiro is feral and animalistic and wildly weaker than Muzan - he is essentially just a sitting duck for Yoriichi. His immunity to sunlight in all probability doesn’t make him immune to Yoriichi’s red blade - not when Muzan is normally already immune to red blades and yet was at the complete mercy of Yoriichi’s.
Catbowtie
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@CastoriceTheFifth I give you my blessing to do DKT vs Yoriichi
speedster352
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Actually sun breathing is the closest thing to the sun which is Muzan's only weakness. Since DKT is immune to the sun and red blades he is actually invincible. To be fair DKT didn't reach his full potential. Could you imagine and immortal invincible demon stronger than Muzan, immune to the sun and using sun breathing?
Epyriel
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It was not a matter of Sun Breathing, Yoriichi’s red blade was explained to be uniquely potent by Muzan, who explicitly stated that he was normally immune to red blades but not Yoriichi’s.
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We don't know if he's immune to red blades. They could just be cauterizing wounds thus stopping them from regenerating instead of just putting sun energy or hamon or smt into the swords
speedster352
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I feel like after like a week Yorichi would run out of stamina and since demons have infinite stamina DKT would win via attrition.
But Yorichi still used sun breathing. It not like he just used the sword by itself. Again Muzan's only weakness is the sun and sun breathing is basically the sun. I feel like he wouldn't say that Tanjiro would be invincible if he could overcome the sun if he could be affected by sun-based attacks.It was not a matter of Sun Breathing, Yoriichi’s red blade was explained to be uniquely potent by Muzan, who explicitly stated that he was normally immune to red blades but not Yoriichi’s.
Epyriel
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That was not what Muzan highlighted as being responsible for his injuries. It is not like other breathing forms have no effect on demons simply because they don’t have ‘sun’ in the name.
And Wisteria, and Shinobu and Tamayo’s super drug, and explicitly Yorichii’s Red Blade…
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speedster352
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I am not saying the red blade is not important but sun breathing also played a role. Sun breathing is the strongest breathing style for a reason it also cancels demon regeneration abilities it gave Muzan's cells such trauma his demon feel the same experience when Tanjiro uses sun breathing. No other breathing has done the done anything close to sun breathing. The thirteen form was needed to beat Muzan. The self-destruct was a double-edged sword but not the rule. I admit that Yorichi is above Muzan. But sun breathing and the red blade are not mutually exclusive I mean why use sun breathing if the red sword is all you needed?
I didn't forget I meant that in relation to DKT Muzan could be killed by the sun but DKT cannot be.
Epyriel
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All of that was a result of the red blade, not sun breathing. Anti-regeneration is the main point of the red blade. Muzan’s old wounds showing themselves was a result of the drugs re-exposing the lasting effects of the red blade. Muzan’s PTSD as a whole is just a net effect of the entire encounter, not any one element in particular - even the mere earrings can set Muzan off into a panic attack.
The red blade is what did the damage, and sun breathing was just the most efficient vector by which to swing it (a technique that allowed him to repeatedly target Muzan’s weak points).
Which would not make him immune to Yoriichi’s red blade, not when Muzan is normally immune to red blades but not Yoriichi’s.
speedster352
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However, the red blade was explicitly stated not to work on DKT, obviously because he is immune to the sun and Nichirin swords. I don't feel like the author would make a statement like that if it were true. Nicirin swords absorb sunlight then the red blade amplifies the effects and adds a burning effect. It's still based on the same sunlight weakness for demons. Additionally, Muzan stated that DKT would be invincible if he were to conquer the sun, and he would be aware of Yorichi's red blade, which you keep bringing up.
Epyriel
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Where is that explicitly stated?
Muzan is already immune to normal red blades, despite being weak to the sun, and yet not immune to Yoriichi’s. Simply assuming that he would be with the addition of sun immunity doesn’t follow.
He’s also aware that Yoriichi died over 400 years ago and explicitly commented how no one’s red blades of this era compare to his.
Giyu said it, tho granted he wouldn't exactly know much about something he saw for the first time...
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