Ben 10: Update, Fixing and Additions part 5

[REX9097]

Well, let's start with

More layers​

Spoiler: layers

Mana Manipulation
Durability Negation (2 layers)​

We have this in Gwen's profiles and they get accepted which states that Gwen have this:

• Sound Manipulation & Durability Negation (Survived a sonic blast from Ultimate Kevin, which can ignore conventional durability)

Well considering that Gwen has resist durability negation we see that Mana users are able to break Gwen's resist durability negation:

1. Charmcaster can bypass Gwen's durability. In the same episode, Charmcaster absorbs Gwen's abilities, and then Gwen able to bypass Charmcaster's durability, who should be has Gwen's resist durability negation due to has all Gwen's abilities.
2. Darkstar able to bypass Gwen's durability. Also in "All That Glitters" episode, Gwen able to bypass Darkstar's durability, who absorb all Gwen's abilities.

And this is 1 layer And now let's start with 2 layers:

1. Anodites Resistance to durability has negation 1 layer (please check R&H) but top-level Mana users like Charmcaster can bypass Anodite's durability which should give them 2 layers

Transmutation (1 layer)​

We have this in Omnitrix profiles and they get accepted which states that Omnitrix have this:

• Possession, Mind Control & Transmutation (Ghost Freak was unable to possess and mind control Ben's aliens. Transforming will prevent Ben from mutating when exposed to Corrodium a mineral which mutates peoples DNA while transformed)

We have Mana who has the ability to break Omnitrix resist transmutation:

1. Gwen [using mana spells] able to transform Ben from Fourarms to Upgrade.
2. Gwen [using mana spells] able to transform Omnitrix and Chromastone into liquid.
3. Gwen Anodite reverted Ben back to their human form.
4. Verdona reverted Ben back to their human form.

Technology Manipulation (1 layer)​

Note: Please refer to R&H at Omnitrix Point to understand what should be Technology Manipulation (1 layer).

Considering that Mana is able to manipulate the Omnitrix's technology system, they must have Technology Manipulation (1 layer), considering that Omnitrix has Resistance to Technology Manipulation.

More Abilities and Resistances​

Spoiler: R&H

• Omnitrix:
  • Resistance to Technology Manipulation and Hacking: Rex wasn't able to control the Ultimatrix or even hack it.
  • Regeneration: Low-Godly; Can regenerate Ben and himself after completely destroyed by Charmcaster's machine. possibly High-Godly; Can regenerate Ben after completely destroyed by Big Bang blast who can erase universe and historys.
• Alien X:
  • Resistance Negation against Invulnerability to Technology Manipulation: Cloud bypass Omnitrix's resistances to technology manipulation (He able to nullify Omnitrix's technology system who has resist technology manip)
  • Erasure Existence: History and Space-Time - Capable of destroying all of existence along with their individual history, including multiple space-time continuums.
• Chrono Navigator:
  • Erasure Existence: History and Space-Time due to he capable of destroying all of existence along with their individual history, including multiple space-time continuums.
• Annihilarrgh:
  • Erasure Existence: History and Space-Time - Capable of destroying entire universe along with their individual history, including multiple space-time continuums..

I find this in Toppo's profile

• Gwen:
  • Matter Manipulation: Molecular level; Cooper wants a burst of energy to expand at the molecular level for the Null Void gate and Gwen provides it.
• Mana Manipulation:
  • Resistance to Limited Soul Absorption: Mana users has Resistance to limited Mana Absorption, so should be has resist limited soul absorption due to mana is soul, magic and energy.

Life Manipulation & Magic: Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana, a life energy that permeates all of nature and serves as the substance of magic[1].

We have this in Mana Manipulation and I want to modify this to be this:

Life Manipulation, Magic, Dimensional Manipulation & Soul Manipulation: Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana, a life energy, souls and multi-dimensional, and that permeates all of nature, and serves as the substance of magic[1].

• Anodite Physiology:
  • Resistance to Soul Manipulation, Dimensional and Magic Attacks: Can't affected by mana blast, which is magic and souls.
  • Resistance to Matter Manipulation (Molecular level) and Durability Negation (1 layer): Unaffected by Gwen's mana blasts which can bypass durability at molecular level.

Aura and Enhanced Light Manipulation: As they reveal their true forms, they emit a blinding light from their body.

We have this in Anodite Physiology and I want to modify this to be this:

Aura and Enhanced Light Manipulation: Explosive, Fear-inducing and Catastrophe-inducing - As they reveal their true forms, they emit a blinding light from their body, which can cause an explosion and increase the enemy's fears and absorb life-energy from those around them to enhance their power, which cloud kill life-forms.

Intelligence update​

Spoiler: Intelligence

Kevin Levin:

Extraordinary Genius (He has great knowledge in astrophysics. He mentions that he is able to hack the Omnitrix, which is an advanced technology that cannot be hack even by Nanite, which are microscopic machines which were created by the scientists. He make the Hacking Machine (Ben 10: Alien Force, "Vengeance of Vilgax: Part 1"), which is able to reboot the Ultimatrix and change back Ben to normal since he fused with Ra'ad (Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, "Fused"). He passed the plumbers test, which is a test to reveal superior combat skills (Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, "Basic Training"). He has knowledge of dimensions, as he knew that mana is multi-dimensional)

Gwen Tennyson:

Extraordinary Genius (Comparable to Kevin, she got a 98% on the plumbers' exam which Kevin didn't get, she learned to use magic on her own and didn't need to go to magic schools, she learned to use mana which is life-energy, magic, souls and multi-dimensional.)

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Lort15]

2 crt is crazy

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

Agreeeee

 

[REX9097]

2 crt is crazy

The former was wrong, the previous CRT was Article

 

[Lort15]

The former was wrong, the previous CRT was Article

Make it close grr

 

[REX9097]

Make it close grr

I have done but waiting for someone to reply to close it

 

[jgms2008]

Well, let's start with

More layers​

[SPOILER="layer

• • Regeneration: Low-Godly; Can regenerate Ben and himself after completely destroyed by Charmcaster's machine. possibly High-Godly; Can regenerate Ben and himself after completely destroyed by Big Bang blast who can erase universe and historys.

I agree with all of this except this:
Dude, I think it's an exaggeration to give High-Godly regeneration to the Omnitrix since not even Alien X has a level of regeneration like that and if I'm not mistaken, the Omnitrix's Falisafe saved Ben from the Annihilation explosion. I don't see him regenerating his body. Also, regarding Low-Godly regeneration, the Omnitrix only regenerated Ben's body at a molecular level and not through another non-physical aspect of himself. That's just High regeneration.

 

[Lort15]

I agree with all of this except this:
Dude, I think it's an exaggeration to give High-Godly regeneration to the Omnitrix since not even Alien X has a level of regeneration like that and if I'm not mistaken, the Omnitrix's Falisafe saved Ben from the Annihilation explosion. I don't see him regenerating his body. Also, regarding Low-Godly regeneration, the Omnitrix only regenerated Ben's body at a molecular level and not through another non-physical aspect of himself. That's just High regeneration.

Alien x will be upscaling from that due to being omnipotent, for Low godly regeneration we saw that Chromastone's body got completly destroyed but Ultimatrix couldn't bring back Ben's soul that is still Low godly

 

[Lort15]

I honestly believe Ultimatrix have Low Godly regeneration but not High Godly because being less advenced than Completed Omnitrix

 

[REX9097]

Dude, I think it's an exaggeration to give High-Godly regeneration to the Omnitrix since not even Alien X has a level of regeneration like that and if I'm not mistaken, the Omnitrix's Falisafe saved Ben from the Annihilation explosion.

1. X don't has High-Godly≠so Omnitrix should be don't has High-Godly.
2. Failsafe never did anything to Annihilarrgh as Falisafe is not as powerful as Annihilarrgh and it was proven that Ben was dead and he proved it himself but the Omnitrix was able to immediately regenerate Ben and transform it into Feedback. (Note: is still possible if this regeneration)

Also, regarding Low-Godly regeneration, the Omnitrix only regenerated Ben's body at a molecular level and not through another non-physical aspect of himself. That's just High regeneration.

Do you have literal proof that Charmcaster's machine destroyed Ben on a molecular level? And secondly, Low-Godly is the ability to regenerate complete physical destruction of the user's body via soul, mind, metaphysical energy, or something else.

Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other non-physical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.

 

[REX9097]

I honestly believe Ultimatrix have Low Godly regeneration but not High Godly because being less advenced than Completed Omnitrix

Ultimatrix not has profile

 

[REX9097]

This has been unlocked

 

[Lort15]

Ultimatrix not has profile

It should be a separate one btw it lacks some functions that omnitrix has like biologicial DNA alteration, For now i agree with low godly regen for Ultimatrix and at least low godly regen rating for completed omnitrix and neutral with high godly regen for omnitrix, ı've checked crt that where omnitrix got imme speed feat the crt is accepted because omnitrix transformed ben before getting hit, i will do my comments on later things

 

[jgms2008]

Ultimatrix not has profile

to tell the truth I was even thinking about creating a profile for ultimatrix:

Powers and Abilities: All functions of the Recalibrated Omnitrix. Reactive Evolution (possesses an evolutionary capability that makes the chosen DNA undergo a process of millions of theoretical years in extreme scenarios, forcing it to evolve and gain new abilities). Information Manipulation and Data Manipulation (the Super Omnitrix creates simulations of the worst-case scenario over a million theoretical years to adapt the species). Scanner (the Super Omnitrix has a scanner to copy the DNA of aliens).

 

[Lort15]

to tell the truth I was even thinking about creating a profile for ultimatrix:

Powers and Abilities: All functions of the Recalibrated Omnitrix. Reactive Evolution (possesses an evolutionary capability that makes the chosen DNA undergo a process of millions of theoretical years in extreme scenarios, forcing it to evolve and gain new abilities). Information Manipulation and Data Manipulation (the Super Omnitrix creates simulations of the worst-case scenario over a million theoretical years to adapt the species). Scanner (the Super Omnitrix has a scanner to copy the DNA of aliens).

That is lowkey wrong not all functions of the recalibrated omnitrix, ultimatrix is confirmed to be less advenced than omnitrix

 

[REX9097]

Bump

 

[GeneralSol16]

Yeah, disagree with Ultimatrix and Omnitrix regen.
Charmcaster DID killed Ben and the others, it was Dagon himself who revived them after Spellbinder declined the older of being revived, the Ultimatrix let Ben die, and if it wasn't for Hope's dad, they would have remained dead.

And for the Definitive Omnitrix, the Annililargh didn't kill Ben, the Omnitrix transformed him just in time. The blast didn't hit him at all, and that's accepted.

 

[Lort15]

Yeah, disagree with Ultimatrix and Omnitrix regen.
Charmcaster DID killed Ben and the others, it was Dagon himself who revived them after Spellbinder declined the older of being revived, the Ultimatrix let Ben die, and if it wasn't for Hope's dad, they would have remained dead.

And for the Definitive Omnitrix, the Annililargh didn't kill Ben, the Omnitrix transformed him just in time. The blast didn't hit him at all, and that's accepted.

The point is regenerating Ben's body not his soul, for surviving from destruction/absorbtion of soul is Mid-Godly regen not Low-Godly

 

[GeneralSol16]

The point is regenerating Ben's body not his soul, for surviving from destruction/absorbtion of soul is Mid-Godly regen not Low-Godly

But he didn't survive lol
I'm not getting the point, the Ultimatrix didn't do anything to save him

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Hard disagree with the regeneration stuff.

 

[Lort15]

But he didn't survive lol
I'm not getting the point, the Ultimatrix didn't do anything to save him

Yeah but it still regenerated his body not his soul regeneration is passive

 

[GeneralSol16]

Yeah but it still regenerated his body not his soul regeneration is passive

Exactly when did the watch regenerate his body? And how just regenerating his body is low godly?

 

[REX9097]

Charmcaster DID killed Ben and the others, it was Dagon himself who revived them after Spellbinder declined the older of being revived, the Ultimatrix let Ben die, and if it wasn't for Hope's dad, they would have remained dead.

LOL, you have 0 knowledge in Regeneration

Exactly when did the watch regenerate his body?

Omnitrix and Chromastone's their bodies was literally completely destroyed and Omnitrix able to regenerate Ben and himsalf

And how just regenerating his body is low regenerating his body is low godly?

???

 

[GeneralSol16]

LOL, you have 0 knowledge in Regeneration

Dude, you don't have any proof that Ben was completely erased.

Omnitrix and Chromastone's their bodies was literally completely destroyed and Omnitrix able to regenerate Ben and himsalf

He just reverted back to human, and Chromastone was just destroyed, it could just be High Regen at maximum

 

[REX9097]

Dude, you don't have any proof that Ben was completely erased.

I was literally completely destroyed at the sight . I didn't say it "was completely erased"

He just reverted back to human, and Chromastone was just destroyed, it could just be High Regen at maximum

She literally regenerate herself in this scene, and even if he did return Ben to human form, she eventually regenerate herself. This is low godly where the Omnitrix regenerated her body and Ben after it was completely destroyed

Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other non-physical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.

 

[DemonicDude]

Hoping Firestorm settle this

 

[REX9097]

Hoping Firestorm settle this

I will add an Intelligence update, but tomorrow, since I will go to sleep.

 

[DemonicDude]

I will add an Intelligence update, but tomorrow, since I will go to sleep.

you sleep too ?

 

[Lort15]

you sleep too ?

lol

 

[Lort15]

More Abilities and Resistances​

• Omnitrix:
  • Resistance to Technology Manipulation and Hacking: Rex wasn't able to control the Ultimatrix or even hack it.
  • Regeneration: Low-Godly; Can regenerate Ben and himself after completely destroyed by Charmcaster's machine. possibly High-Godly; Can regenerate Ben after completely destroyed by Big Bang blast who can erase universe and historys.

Agree with Low-Godly Neutral leaning to Disagree for High-Godly, i did my comment about Low-Godly and Resistance to Tech manip and Hacking seems fine

• Alien X:
  • Resistance Negation against Invulnerability to Technology Manipulation: Cloud bypass Omnitrix's resistances to technology manipulation (He able to nullify Omnitrix's technology system who has resist technology manip)

why invulnerability? omnitrix doesn't posses the ability of invulnerability, agree with tech manip

• • Erasure Existence: History and Space-Time - Capable of destroying all of existence along with their individual history, including multiple space-time continuums.
• Chrono Navigator:
  • Erasure Existence: History and Space-Time due to he capable of destroying all of existence along with their individual history, including multiple space-time continuums.
• Annihilarrgh:
  • Erasure Existence: History and Space-Time - Capable of destroying entire universe along with their individual history, including multiple space-time continuums..

Agree, X already has casuality manip which helps erasing the space-time

I find this in Toppo's profile

• Gwen:
  • Matter Manipulation: Molecular level; Cooper wants a burst of energy to expand at the molecular level for the Null Void gate and Gwen provides it.

isn't this stated as dura neg already? i don't have a problem with that tho

• Mana Manipulation:
  • Resistance to Limited Soul Absorption: Mana users has Resistance to limited Mana Absorption, so should be has resist limited soul absorption due to mana is soul, magic and energy.

i suppose?

We have this in Mana Manipulation and I want to modify this to be this:

• Anodite Physiology:
  • Resistance to Soul Manipulation, Dimensional and Magic Attacks: Can't affected by mana blast, which is magic and souls.

not quite sure

• • Resistance to Matter Manipulation (Molecular level) and Durability Negation (1 layer): Unaffected by Gwen's mana blasts which can bypass durability at molecular level.

it does bypass the durability at molecular level but i suppose it is selective not passive otherwise Gwen would one shot everyone and everything with a regular mana blast

No comments on layers.

 

[REX9097]

why invulnerability? omnitrix doesn't posses the ability of invulnerability, agree with tech man

Because this is how it is written in order to determine the RN

it does bypass the durability at molecular level but i suppose it is selective not passive otherwise Gwen would one shot everyone and everything with a regular mana blast

No, Gwen's mana was provides burst of energy at the molecular level.

isn't this stated as dura neg already? i don't have a problem with that tho

dura neg and matter manip

 

[Lort15]

No, Gwen's mana was provides burst of energy at the molecular level.

i didn't say it doesn't but it is selective like Gwen doesn't provides that in every mana blast

 

[REX9097]

i didn't say it doesn't but it is selective like Gwen doesn't provides that in every mana blast

His energy provides so is not selective and she didn't even cast a spell in a scene. Also, its power does not differ every time, as we have UES, which means that its mana attacks are at the same level (but different from the power of other users).

 

[Lort15]

His energy provides and she didn't even cast a spell in a scene. Also, its power does not differ every time, as we have UES, which means that its mana attacks are at the same level (but different from the power of other users).

not every mana ability requiers a spell, like how Gwen does her shields, mana blasts, weapons and they are different things

 

[REX9097]

not every mana ability requiers a spell, like how Gwen does her shields, mana blasts, weapons and they are different things

Ok? Shields are on par with blasts as mentioned in UES but shields have higher durability. What does weapons have to do with mana UES? Because Gwen has no ability to create weapons

 

[Lort15]

Ok? Shields are on par with blasts as mentioned in UES but shields have higher durability. What does weapons have to do with mana UES? Because Gwen has no ability to create weapons

yeah shield does have higher dura i was reffering to the category actually but this works too, Gwen does have weapon creation

 

[REX9097]

yeah shield does have higher dura i was reffering to the category actually but this works too, Gwen does have weapon creation

It is still on par with blasts, thanks to UES

 

[Lort15]

It is still on par with blasts, thanks to UES

sorry but i don't really think her all blast's are dura negs as i said otherwise everyone that Gwen blasted would get resistance to dura neg and also buildings,objects everything which i don't believe

 

[REX9097]

sorry but i don't really think her all blast's are dura negs as i said otherwise everyone that Gwen blasted would get resistance to dura neg and also buildings,objects everything which i don't believe

So? It's cartoon. Also, not every character literally survives Gwen's attacks without fainting, dying, or something like that

 

[Lort15]

So? It's cartoon. Also, not every character literally survives Gwen's attacks without fainting, dying, or something like that

They would still get resistance to it due to surviving, or not getting one shotted, there is no evidence about including her dura neg in every attack