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Ben 10 - Questionable Armadrillo Calc

Going by this, it may be that the original information the calc is based on has been retconned:

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That's garbabe, using the Wiki as an argument without knowing the series is a big no no.
 
That's garbabe, using the Wiki as an argument without knowing the series is a big no no.
I wasn't using it as an argument by itself, I was just bringing up additional information, hence why I said "may".
 
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I can load it just fine on my end. Pretty strange though.
 
Going by this, it may be that the original information the calc is based on has been retconned:

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Fandom isn't a reliable source.
That doesn’t explain why it is apparently intact rather than shatter into a bunch of asteriods
We can't see it cause the atmosphere covers it like how we can't see stars during the day. There's even a damn sandstorm going on. And there's even gravity. Suggesting full well that these asteroids are large enough to create their own gravitational pull.
 
Fandom isn't a reliable source.

We can't see it cause the atmosphere covers it like how we can't see stars during the day. There's even a damn sandstorm going on. And there's even gravity. Suggesting full well that these asteroids are large enough to create their own gravitational pull.
The Surface is entirely intact when I show the scan. Also Sandstorms doesn’t exist in a field of asteroids belts that originally was a planet.

There will been no sandstorms to appear in this case
 
The Talpaedan's asteroids are described as "irregular chunks of rocks" and that screenshot of the planet looks pretty regular to me.
 
The Surface is entirely intact when I show the scan. Also Sandstorms doesn’t exist in a field of asteroids belts that originally was a planet.

There will been no sandstorms to appear in this case
The asteroids are the size of small moons. With a lot of evidence of having gravity, atmosphere and a lot of other characteristics not found in asteroids. So saying that is the prior scan from the canon book is wrong doesn't make sense. These asteroids already have characteristics that pulls them away from conditional 'asteroids'. So them having sand. Isn't that big of shock.
The Talpaedan's asteroids are described as "irregular chunks of rocks" and that screenshot of the planet looks pretty regular to me.
What would 'irregular chunks of rock' look like to you. We've already established that these asteroids have gravity, atmosphere and now sand. They're pretty irregular as far as asteroids go imo.
 
The asteroids are the size of small moons. With a lot of evidence of having gravity, atmosphere and a lot of other characteristics not found in asteroids. So saying that is the prior scan from the canon book is wrong doesn't make sense. These asteroids already have characteristics that pulls them away from conditional 'asteroids'. So them having sand. Isn't that big of shock.

What would 'irregular chunks of rock' look like to you. We've already established that these asteroids have gravity, atmosphere and now sand. They're pretty irregular as far as asteroids go imo.
The Asteroids was never stated to contain sand though. Also, you using the Guidebook that came before Ben 10 Omniverse first appears.


It is likely the writers of Omniverse weren’t keen on getting their older series’s lore correctly or anything.
 
The Asteroids was never stated to contain sand though. Also, you using the Guidebook that came before Ben 10 Omniverse first appears.


It is likely the writers of Omniverse weren’t keen on getting their older series’s lore correctly or anything.
Even if you wanna argue that Armodrillo's planet was rhettconed. That wouldn't contradict what I said about the asteroids having atmospheres as they'd need air to breath and support the populas and they'd even need air on the service as they travel there to mine as well. There's no evidence of them possessing any advance tech and even the only example of the species is no Galvan by any term.
 
Google 'Why is the sky blue?'
Light fractures upon contact with our atmosphere giving it a blue color.
This is why we don't see the stars during the day. And further proves Andrea's asteroids have an Atmosphere.

1st episode of Alien Force. Kevin was in trouble with that one Plumber for dealing level 5 tech on a level 2 planet(Earth). I'll link a video as soon as I find it.
Link 1, 2 and 3
 
Even if you wanna argue that Armodrillo's planet was rhettconed. That wouldn't contradict what I said about the asteroids having atmospheres as they'd need air to breath and support the populas and they'd even need air on the service as they travel there to mine as well. There's no evidence of them possessing any advance tech and even the only example of the species is no Galvan by any term.
Hmmm, care to explain their biology and appearance then? They definitely look mechanical after all and the guidebook never mentioned any mentions of having atmosphere in moon sized atmospheres and so on.
 
Actually as far him being "mechenical" goes. Ben names his aliens after animals.
like,
Spidermonkey = spider and monkey
Ampfibian = amphibian
Armodrillo = armadillo


Armodrillo is basically based on real life animal "armadillo"
both are yellowish and both dug holes in the ground
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Hmmm, care to explain their biology and appearance then? They definitely look mechanical after all
Armodrillo is very much an organic based life form. He has a nervous system that can be impacted via an exciter beam and need air.

and the guidebook never mentioned any mentions of having atmosphere in moon sized atmospheres and so on,
A fiction character also doesn't tell us "A is Outerversal because .....". We evaluate the given show or franchise an make logical conclusions based on the evidence given.
Evidence:
Armodrillo's species lives on ateriod belts.

They need oxygen to breath.

Oxygen requires an atmosphere.

Atmosphere's can't exist on a planet atleast 2.9% the mass of the earth.

They haven't shown evidence of being smart or having any advanced infrastructure.

So in conclusion. There asteroids are atleast 2.9% the mass of Earth.
 
Actually as far him being "mechenical" goes. Ben names his aliens after animals.
like,
Spidermonkey = spider and monkey
Ampfibian = amphibian
Armodrillo = armadillo
Amfibian is more of a jellyfish.
Crashhopper =Grasshopper
Stinky =Stinky fly
Wild mutton = Dog
Blitzwolfer/Benwolf = Wolf
Etc.

Armodrillo is basically based on real life animal "armadillo"
both are yellowish and both dug holes in the ground
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he bleeds too
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My boy Andreas was too pure for that world.
 
Amfibian is more of a jellyfish.
Crashhopper =Grasshopper
Stinky =Stinky fly
Wild mutton = Dog
Blitzwolfer/Benwolf = Wolf
Etc.

My boy Andreas was too pure for that world.
In real life Amphibian are vertebrates that live part of their lives in water and part on land.
Ben 10 has Aerophibians (jetray) and Ampifiban
both named after real life Amphibian species and both can live underwater.
(Their physical apperance resemble Amphibians too)
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I believe the standard approach is to use the fewest possible steps and assumptions. If a fictional planet has a gravity of 5g, it seems they don't look for a realistically sized planet with that gravity in real life; they just assume it's Earth-sized and has five times the gravity. Therefore, the calculation with the fewest assumptions would be this:

The mass of the Earth is approximately
5.97E+24 kg. Dividing this amount by 1.1 million: 5.97E+24/1.1E+06.

Thus, dividing the mass of the Earth by 1.1 million results in approximately 5.427E+18 kg.

Assuming an average rock density of 2250 kg/m³, the volume of each part would be

5.427E+18/2250 = 2.412E+15 m3

A sphere with that volume would have a diameter of:

((2.412E+15/pi)(3/4))^(1/3)*2 = 166,389m | 166 km.
 
A sphere with that volume would have a diameter of:

((2.412E+15/pi)(3/4))^(1/3)*2 = 166,389m | 166 km.
That fits in a lot more with the statement of being the size of small Moons based on the list of Moons in the OP. Asteroids that size would still be more than big enough to have extensive tunnels in them too.
 
Armodrillo is very much an organic based life form. He has a nervous system that can be impacted via an exciter beam and need air.


A fiction character also doesn't tell us "A is Outerversal because .....". We evaluate the given show or franchise an make logical conclusions based on the evidence given.
Evidence:
Armodrillo's species lives on ateriod belts.

They need oxygen to breath.

Oxygen requires an atmosphere.

Atmosphere's can't exist on a planet atleast 2.9% the mass of the earth.

They haven't shown evidence of being smart or having any advanced infrastructure.

So in conclusion. There asteroids are atleast 2.9% the mass of Earth.

This is nothing more than speculation though outside of the stated size of the asteroids and other things.

Also it is never stated they required oxygen to survive in the guidebook though if we going strictly by what the guidebook brought up.

The moon, irl, have very little to no amount of atmosphere and this ain’t as different from this case to suggest it.
 
This is nothing more than speculation though outside of the stated size of the asteroids and other things.

Also it is never stated they required oxygen to survive in the guidebook though if we going strictly by what the guidebook brought up.

The moon, irl, have very little to no amount of atmosphere and this ain’t as different from this case to suggest it.
I don't know if you knew this, but there's something called "series", that help us to have more info about the show and the characters.

Talpaedans need oxygen as proved by the show, his home planet didn't appear in OV, and the chunks of rock have an atmosphere.
 
I don't know if you knew this, but there's something called "series", that help us to have more info about the show and the characters.

Talpaedans need oxygen as proved by the show, his home planet didn't appear in OV, and the chunks of rock have an atmosphere.
I am aware of the Ben 10 series, but quite frankly I don’t find the evidence to being that convincing as we talking about artificially choke via artificial means and not via outer space.


You guys’s points regarding the atmosphere part is what I disagree with the most.
 
I am aware of the Ben 10 series, but quite frankly I don’t find the evidence to being that convincing as we talking about artificially choke via artificial means and not via outer space.


You guys’s points regarding the atmosphere part is what I disagree with the most.
The main point is that he needs oxygen to live, as you may know, suffocating works only if you need oxygen, since what it does is to block it from your system.
 
The main point is that he needs oxygen to live, as you may know, suffocating works only if you need oxygen, since what it does is to block it from your system.
The issue here is two separate instances apparently been based on Earth while Ben 10 has been transformed.

However, it is mention that it used to been a planet until the alien species turn it into a bunch of asteroids belt over time.


Which indicated to me, it wasn’t done immediately though.
 
They literally said that the Talpaedans punched their planet and turned it into an asteroid belt.

You are just bringing up weird stuffs or things that have an explanation.


1:17 timestamp as they specified said in the guidebook used in the calculation that they jackhammered their planet into pieces.


We already show how he digs by drilling into the ground as shown here.

It definitely still takes time to do it anyway
 
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1:17 timestamp as they specified said in the guidebook used in the calculation that they jackhammered their planet into pieces.


We already show how he attacks by drilling into the ground as shown here.

It definitely still takes time to do it anyway

In the guidebook "jackhammer something" is just a way to say that they punched using their drills, Armodrillo punches with his drills, but is a punch.
 
This is nothing more than speculation though outside of the stated size pf the asteroids and other things.
The size of the asteroids aren't stated. Were trying to estimate a established size for these moon sized asteroids.
Also it is never stated they required oxygen to survive in the guidebook though if we going strictly by what the guidebook brought up,
We're not going only based of the guidebook. We've already estimated that Armodrillo needs air to survive. It was directly shown he can't survive without air.
The moon, irl, have very little to no amount of atmosphere and this ain’t as different from this case to suggest it.
A moon is defined as anything that orbits a planet. There is moon nearly twice the size of ours in our own solar system. Not sure what you are trying to say here.
I am aware of the Ben 10 series, but quite frankly I don’t find the evidence to being that convincing as we talking about artificially choke via artificial means and not via outer space.
They are both different means of suffocating. If an alien needs air then they can't survive in space without a suit.
We've already shown that they can't survive without oxygen so how can they survive in an environment completely void of it? Prove they can survive in space.
 
The size of the asteroids aren't stated. Were trying to estimate a established size for these moon sized asteroids.

We're not going only based of the guidebook. We've already estimated that Armodrillo needs air to survive. It was directly shown he can't survive without air.


A moon is defined as anything that orbits a planet. There is moon nearly twice the size of ours in our own solar system.
Hmm, I suppose that is fair enough.

Best not to overthink this further on my end
 
Because there is no evidence to show that this book is Canon.

The reason why SOME comics were considered Canon was that the series sometimes referenced comics. There is no such thing here.
No, the comics were reffering to the events happend in the serie. That's why they are approved.
Literally check this:


Also i suggest you to stop making the crt more complicated please. That is not the topic.
 
No, the comics were reffering to the events happend in the serie. That's why they are approved.
Literally check this:

Dude, you're literally saying the exact opposite of what I'm saying, and it's contrary to what's written on the cosmology page
Also i suggest you to stop making the crt more complicated please. That is not the topic
This thing is something that is directly related to this thread
 
Dude, you're literally saying the exact opposite of what I'm saying, and it's contrary to what's written on the cosmology page
Yeah and it is exactly the same on the cosmology page:

This thing is something that is directly related to this thread
No, the calculation is related to this thread not the canonicity of the data book.
 
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