The baby taking thousands of years to develop doesn't prove anything, stop mentionig the baby already.
"Not care? Its power is about to be stolen from someone evil who wishes 'to to' rule the universe and them, possibly killing them as well. Why would it not care? That is completely baseless and speculative just as you are accusing the wiki of. 'Also' the babies don't have multiple personalities so 1 personality 'wouldnt' stop itself from doing any action. We all have one personality, not multiple which can conflict each other. Why do you think Aggrogor wanted its power and not he adult ones? And not an egg? Its trapped within a 'spehere'."
Just like how Bellicus didn't care saving the universe in, well, pretty much every episode, why should the baby? Serena and Bellicus BOTH didn't care that the Gladiator was kicking Ben's ass, had it no been for Ben, they would've died. Also proof that the baby would've died after getting its limitless power absorbed? If the baby only had a personality like Bellicus, it would indeed prevent it from moving. Bellicus simply don't care about anything.
It's not an egg, and it's not trapped. That's how the baby looks, it is shining.
Proof the babies are stated to be as fast as the adults? Same power = / = Same speed.
So you admit that Ben's alien are average? All i needed to hear. And yeah, any Celestialsapien scale to Alien X. Watch the episode "Universe vs Tennyson".
"Never said my claim 'wasnt' baseless. 'Im' saying your reasoning for why its false 'isnt' concrete when it can also mean the same for your reasoning. It could have happened at any time, making both of our claims as to whether it was fast or slow speculative."
Don't bring it up then, if you can't disprove them being infinitely fast.
He 'wasnt' called the strongest in the multiverse. He was called the strongest in the universe, which makes no sense for a 2-A's power to be 'reffered' like that on such a low scope when they are the god tier. No other God tier in a verse who is tier 2 is given this treatment.
Now you're just messing with me, clearly you haven't read or watched all fiction so there would actually be no way for you to even know this, actually scratch that. Prove it, you made the claim, prove it. Stop mentioning "tier 2 this, tier 2 that", it's not a proper argument. Seem you have successfully ignored this but I will say it again, it obviously just means that there are beings outside of the universe stronger than Alien X, not that hard to get.
"My bad. Typo. Meant to say Ben used clockwork to reverse the bomb's affects in order to stop it from destroying everything. That i'll admit was my fault."
He created the multiverse, he didn't reverse anything. Prove he did, don't site the wiki.
Not understaing dimensional tiering =/= unreliabe. Omnipotence and our way of rating characters is something they don't understand but not knowing it doesnt mean everything else they do know is inaccurate. People keeping the site up to date means nothing when they are abused 'termsby' many people who don't fully grasp it.
Your way of rating chararcters isn't 100% factually correct, that's just your incredibly biased opinion. So you decide what baseless claim they have are correct, and not me who has actually verified those baseless claim and watched the episodes?
Don't know what the bolded means.
"Them saying a "race of 'omnipotents'" alone disproves it. But 'im' not gonna get into that debate as 'thats' a whole different story. "
You clearly don't know what omnipotence means. You can't disprove omnipotence, NOTHING can disprove omnipotence. An omnipotent can do ANYTHING, therefore he can also make a race of omnipotent, he cant you say? Well, guess he isn't OMNIPOTENT then.
"And if they did that, they would contradict their own omnipotence. Not to mention they dont create their own race, so thats meaningless to say. Also not saying Alien X is omnipotent but that is a different debate."
An omnipotent can do anything, therefore they can also contradict their own omnipotence. Yes, Alien X do create their own race, like humans create humans, what are you talking about?
"Me referencing the authors 6 thoughts statement has nothing to do with the timebomb. I used it to prove my point that the author has no clue on how dimensional tiering, by our standings anyway, truly work."
Why is the author wrong?
"How does recreating one universe mean he created the timebomb? Not to mention, recreating something 'doesnt' mean you created in the first place."
Did you miss the part about "everything in the universe", the timebomb is part of said universe.
Please tell me you're joking about this create/ recreate thing , like you must be trolling or is English not your first language? Do you want me to link to you a dictionary what the word recreate means?
'Its an example 'im' using in my argument so I will reference it here. To even unleash moon level AP without ppl named Naruto and 'Toneri' (who even at the time 'werent' moon level), it would have to take every drop of chakra from all ppl in the 5 nations to 'acomplish.
Baseless assumptions.
"Suggesting they would try and triple it, especially when they had no time when under such a large predicament, is 'ludicris'." Baseless.
"And that function is never confirmed in canon." You have no idea how it works in the first place, good luck scaling anyone to the weapon.
"It 'doesnt' have tier 2 'durability,' or any durability at all. THATS my point. The fact that anyone can destroy the fault and therefore destroy all the timelines 'wouldnt' make them tier 2. 'Its' just a regular vault."
You're contradicting yourself again, jesus Christ. Destroying the vault is the same as pressing the detonation button, it doesn't mean anything at all.
"Them not being weapons means nothing as Alien X being the strongest being in the omnitrix is still a thing. And its clear they are far superior to average ninja and a vault." You've already admitted yourself they can't do what the vault can+ it's the weapon not the ninjas that are moon level.
"When I say implies tier 3, 'im' saying "strongest in the universe" implies that as even someone who is 3-A can 'acomplish' that. Not 'sayiing' Alien X is 3-A since that would be very large downplay but 'im' using it as an example that reasoning like that 'isnt' really good reasoning."
Don't care what it implies, you're still wrong. Strongest in the universe, just means strongest in the universe. It doesn't mean faster than light, it doesn't mean Tier 3, it just means nobody else in the universe is stronger, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IMPLIES.
"How is that me contradicting myself? Not being able to destroy a universe and not being in a certain tier, aka 3-A, for that reasoning is the same thing."
You're saying Alien X is tier 3, because he is only the strongest in the universe, then you say being the strongest in the universe doesn't mean he can destroy one. If you still fail to see how that is contradicting then.. :I
As for the rest,
Just because they need to develop doesnt mean their power needs to, otherwise Arrgorror wouldnt have wasted time taking its power when their wouldnt be any. When saying developing, I mean they have the power within them .
Nice, never said anything about their power developing, stop putting words in my mouth. " but they need to develop in order to use it at will when they can move about as adult celestialsapiens."
You are assuming stuff that was never said, nice again. Evidence>>>>>>>Your Headcanon.
"I would agree with you that people can absorb power from beings several tiers above them, but the issue here is anyone in Tier 2 is infinitely above low tiers. Arrogor only had the power of 5 random aliens who do not in any way suggest he can absorb power that is infinitely above his own."
Hmm, I don't think you understand how fiction works. Being able to absorb power well above yours happens all the time in Marvel, but you don't see people claiming TOAA and Galactus aren't multiversal because much weaker characters absorbed their power.
"And since there is no proof he can even have that level of power, what suggests he could prevent that power from destroying himself? Power 'absorbtion' 'doesnt' mean you can absorb power ridiculously beyond your own to such a degree, 'its' an NLF that way."
I don't care about Aggregor, so why are you even mentioning him?Him not being able to absorb all its powers proves what? Nothing, that's' right. The absence of evidence is not evidence.
I don't think you know what a NLF is, and you're just throwing the term. It's not a NLF, when the damn limit is a Celestialsapien's power, you obviously don't know what the term means.
"Ridiculously beyond your own", it's like you don't even know what fiction is. Why would fiction care about this exactly? FTL travel is not possible because it goes against the laws of physics, yet does fiction care? Does this not happen all the time in fiction? Is their speed now a NLF?
Did Thanos not get the Infinitely Gauntlet, did he not get the HEART OF THE UNIVERSE ???? He absorbed both, and went from tier 4 to tier 2 and even tier 1.
You have no evidence of Aggegornot being able to the baby's power, you're basing it on your opinion and misunderstanding of terms.
And for the last goddamn time, there is no evidence he could've abosbred the power in the first place. I'm not gonna say this again.