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The first of many to come...
Honestly this isn't even the biggest Ark CRT I plan to do in the next few weeks...
So recently while working on the Ark verse, I realised that the most recent calc made for it scales to far more creatures than I thought, which has led to some problematic tiering amongst some creatures.
The Calc in question is this one, which keeps creatures at High 8-C, or Large Building level.
The only problem with this is that due to the Stone Pickaxe being capable of this, the literal first tool that the player makes. Near enough every creature scales to the Stone Pick, including the likes of Dodos...
For obvious reasons, while High 8-C Dodos would be amazing, they are incredibly inconsistent with what we see in the rest of the game, creatures on the Dodos level and even much stronger creatures can near enough be one shot, and can be murdered in swarms by the creatures that actually perform the feats. So I plan to remove the feat in question, and revert to more consistent feats.
As for the feat itself, it will not be completely abandoned or ignored, I believe it should be reverted to Environmental Destruction, and only scale to the actual creatures/tools that can achieve the feat. This will acknowledge that the creatures are capable of destroying the rocks, but that their offensive capabilities are not necessarily related to this feat. Which would keep consistency throughout the verse. This would likely require a note on the profiles mentioning that the rock feat doesn't necessarily correlate to AP, as this would cause inconsistency.
Another alternative for the feat is that it could be used to scale to the Magmasaurs searing spit, as this attack can obliterate rocks in a similar fashion, but also scales correctly amongst other creatures, as it does high damage and will not scale to an abundant amount of creatures since the Magmasaur is a powerful endgame creature. This could be argued against though, but since the Searing Spit has a different context to being a resource gathering feat, and is actually purely an offensive attack, it is possible that it can be correlated with AP.
Either of these options could be applied, or even both of them, or neither. This needs to be agreed on by you guys. Personally I wouldn't mind both of them being applied, simply because the scaling seems to work out fine, but I understand if that seems strange.
There are also feats for creatures that I have pending, so all creatures will be covered and have differentiated tiers after the revisions. Making the verse more consistent in scaling, these will be uploaded shortly.
It should also be noted that if this gets accepted, the revisions likely shouldn't be applied until I have uploaded the other calcs.
TLDR:
Ark has major inconsistent scaling issues
Current calc should be reverted to either (or both) of the following options:
- Environmental Destruction
- Creatures would need a note
- Magmasaur AP via actually consistent offensive attack, and not a resource gathering feat.
Creatures will scale to new calcs that actually represent how they scale to each other accurately without having contradictions.
- These calcs are already known and will be uploaded shortly.
Honestly this isn't even the biggest Ark CRT I plan to do in the next few weeks...
So recently while working on the Ark verse, I realised that the most recent calc made for it scales to far more creatures than I thought, which has led to some problematic tiering amongst some creatures.
The Calc in question is this one, which keeps creatures at High 8-C, or Large Building level.
The only problem with this is that due to the Stone Pickaxe being capable of this, the literal first tool that the player makes. Near enough every creature scales to the Stone Pick, including the likes of Dodos...
For obvious reasons, while High 8-C Dodos would be amazing, they are incredibly inconsistent with what we see in the rest of the game, creatures on the Dodos level and even much stronger creatures can near enough be one shot, and can be murdered in swarms by the creatures that actually perform the feats. So I plan to remove the feat in question, and revert to more consistent feats.
As for the feat itself, it will not be completely abandoned or ignored, I believe it should be reverted to Environmental Destruction, and only scale to the actual creatures/tools that can achieve the feat. This will acknowledge that the creatures are capable of destroying the rocks, but that their offensive capabilities are not necessarily related to this feat. Which would keep consistency throughout the verse. This would likely require a note on the profiles mentioning that the rock feat doesn't necessarily correlate to AP, as this would cause inconsistency.
Another alternative for the feat is that it could be used to scale to the Magmasaurs searing spit, as this attack can obliterate rocks in a similar fashion, but also scales correctly amongst other creatures, as it does high damage and will not scale to an abundant amount of creatures since the Magmasaur is a powerful endgame creature. This could be argued against though, but since the Searing Spit has a different context to being a resource gathering feat, and is actually purely an offensive attack, it is possible that it can be correlated with AP.
Either of these options could be applied, or even both of them, or neither. This needs to be agreed on by you guys. Personally I wouldn't mind both of them being applied, simply because the scaling seems to work out fine, but I understand if that seems strange.
There are also feats for creatures that I have pending, so all creatures will be covered and have differentiated tiers after the revisions. Making the verse more consistent in scaling, these will be uploaded shortly.
It should also be noted that if this gets accepted, the revisions likely shouldn't be applied until I have uploaded the other calcs.
TLDR:
Ark has major inconsistent scaling issues
Current calc should be reverted to either (or both) of the following options:
- Environmental Destruction
- Creatures would need a note
- Magmasaur AP via actually consistent offensive attack, and not a resource gathering feat.
Creatures will scale to new calcs that actually represent how they scale to each other accurately without having contradictions.
- These calcs are already known and will be uploaded shortly.
