Are these the correct abilities?

[Rikimarox2]

Basically, I'm reading a novel, and wanted to see what abilities that qualify for these statements.

First one:

This was the only chance he had to pick up his shield. He must grab it before the man narrowed the distance between them again. Just as he bent over to pick up the shield.

His sixth sense warned him.

“…?”

His instinct took over his body even before his mind could register what was happening. As Yoon-seok stepped back, he felt a gust of wind against his face. The man’s sword was so quick that he only caught a flash of light streaking before him. The old man was genuinely surprised by Yoon-seok’s quick evasion

Instinctive reaction when in serious danger? The dude acted before his mind could register wtf was happening.

The thrilled Old Priest began swinging his sword at Yoon-seok, one fierce attack after another. If he wanted to end the duel, he could have. He had several chances, but the Old Priest didn’t take advantage of them. When he entered this Tower of Heaven, his inner strength magically decreased. It was as if the Tower shackled his power.

The Old Priest felt the need to adjust to his current body, and Yoon-seok was the perfect partner for such readjustments. Of course, the possibility of losing never crossed his mind.

“…?”

Gradually, after about a hundred exchanges, the Old Priest noticed something. Somehow, their positions had reversed. But when did that start? Surely, Yoon-seok was the same, but the way he swung his sword gradually became smoother and faster. ‘Is this even possible?’ The Old Priest wondered. He decided he needed to finish the duel quickly, but he couldn’t afford to make a rushed and careless attack. He had to analyze and observe Yoon-seok and wait for an opening. But as he observed, he realized something that shocked him further.

‘Is this…?’

Though the movements were still a bit clumsy and awkward, there was no way the experienced warrior couldn’t recognize it. Yoon-seok’s movements were now a mirror image of his own. The Old Priest, a martial artist, learned the Blue Dragon sword technique, a mixture of many martial arts. Though it took a lot of practice, it had become a famous method in Moorim. But still, the man standing in front of him easily duplicated it.

Accelerated development/Reactive power level? And technique mimicry, or just an intelligence feat?

Basically, the MC, Yoon-Seok, barely has any combat experience at all, and he fought against a martial artist. He was only like able to slightly graze the dude by chance, while continuously acknowledging the massive difference in their skills, as the Old priest was able to dodge everything extremely easily. It should be noted that both of them are equal in both strength and speed, as the arena they are in equalizes their stats.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

First is Instinctive Reaction and second Reactive power level and minor power mimicry/technique mimicry because as Old Priest said his movement were a bit clumsy and awkward, it also count as an intelligence feat.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Nice~ Thank you!

What about these, then?

Magic, Skills, Curses. Now free to use their powers, the challengers fired off all kinds of attacks. Yet none of them threatened him at all. The Sun Sword offered the effect of ignoring magic below the owner’s magic stats, nullifying their powers. None of them were of a rank higher than Yoon-seok.

Arrows? He could just bat them to the side. Perhaps because of the difference in magic levels, the curse disappeared in a few seconds due to Bloodseeker’s Energy.

Resistance to Magic and Curse Manip? Or just powernull against magic and resistance against curse manip?

Also, how can we use this in a VS thread? The Mc can neg magic attacks that aren't the same level as him, and there are multiple ranks. If its a single rank lower, it gets resisted/nulled, ain't sure.

FYI, Magic in this verse includes fire manip, ice manip, lightning manip, etc...

Also, he has an ability that makes all his attacks afflict fear on his opponent, and increase the pain they feel by 20 times. I believe that should easily suffice for pain and fear manip, yes?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Resistance to Magic and Curse Manip? Or just powernull against magic and resistance against curse manip?

Also, how can we use this in a VS thread? The Mc can neg magic attacks that aren't the same level as him, and there are multiple ranks. If its a single rank lower, it gets resisted/nulled, ain't sure.

FYI, Magic in this verse includes fire manip, ice manip, lightning manip, etc...

Also, he has an ability that makes all his attacks afflict fear on his opponent, and increase the pain they feel by 20 times. I believe that should easily suffice for pain and fear manip, yes?

At first I thought it would be powernull to magic and resistance to curse, but it could also be resistance to magic if the damage and/or effect of the magics that he can't null (do to the magic be of sufficient level to not get nulled) is lessened.

And that type of thing isn't really uncommon in other series, in vs threads I personally think it should be treated as an power null that don't work against opponents around the same power level (AP) as the user, I think some similar powers are also treated that way in vs threads of other verses. Also, he would be able to only null magic showed in his verse, for example if he face someone with concept magic and in his verse there don't exist such magic or is treated as something too powerful to null then he wouldn't be able to null it even if the other side is far weaker than him.

Yeah, that's fear and pain manip.

 

[Rikimarox2]

At first I thought it would be powernull to magic and resistance to curse, but it could also be resistance to magic if the damage and/or effect of the magics that he can't null (do to the magic be of sufficient level to not get nulled) is lessened.

Honestly, after rereading it, it might just be power null since he has another Stat that is specifically magic resistance, and not to mention, he already fought with people who are stronger than him, but their magic got nulled due to their magic rank being lower.

Also, he would be able to only null magic showed in his verse, for example if he face someone with concept magic and in his verse there don't exist such magic or is treated as something too powerful to null then he wouldn't be able to null it even if the other side is far weaker than him.

Ah, of course. He can only null shit that exists in his verse. Concept manip, or anything that doesn't exist in his verse or is extremely similar is a big no-no.

Anyways, thanks for the reply! But I actually have another question, if you don't mind.

Basically, the Mc has invisibility. Normal people cannot see him at all, but people whom magic rank is less than three levels lower than him can see him fine. But once he upgrades it, to the point there is 3 rank difference, even those people cannot see him anymore. Would that be enhanced invisibility?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Honestly, after rereading it, it might just be power null since he has another Stat that is specifically magic resistance, and not to mention, he already fought with people who are stronger than him, but their magic got nulled due to their magic rank being lower.

Then yeah, is only power null, though if he have a stat specifically to resist magic then he would still have resistance to magic listed.

I mean, those stronger people were dudes focused in magic or just physical fighters with just some magic? Their magic would had do serious damage to him if it wasn't nulled?

Basically, the Mc has invisibility. Normal people cannot see him at all, but people whom magic rank is less than three levels lower than him can see him fine. But once he upgrades it, to the point there is 3 rank difference, even those people cannot see him anymore. Would that be enhanced invisibility?

Maybe enhanced invisibility as you said? It could also just be some stealth mastery like usual in series, you know, when character A couldn't detect the presence of character B and later or appear a stronger character C that B can't detect, the common trope basically, I actually think that in many cases like that said characters were also able to turn invisible or seem like that to others (for example in Arifureta happen this).

 

[Rikimarox2]

I mean, those stronger people were dudes focused in magic or just physical fighters with just some magic? Their magic would had do serious damage to him if it wasn't nulled?

Iirc, physically stronger with some magic stuff. Although, he would still have power null I believe, since he has another attack that doesn't allow users to activate their magic. But obviously, that one needs activation, while the whole null magic weaker than yours is passive. The latter though just nulls the attack he has been hit with, not make them unable to be casted again.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Iirc, physically stronger with some magic stuff. Although, he would still have power null I believe, since he has another attack that doesn't allow users to activate their magic.

Then it's probably that it was a problem more of the opponent not having strong magic, and who do you say would still have power null? The protagonist? Like, he have a skill/magic/technique/whatever that don't let others use magic? Could you post some examples or quotes about it?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Yeah, the protagonist. He has both an active power null that covers a set radius, and his passive one which just ***** over people that hit him with magic weaker than him.

I'll also try posting the quotes later, as the ones I posted were when I had the pc. The translation site is also an ass since you need to download it as pdf in order to copy text and stuff.

But tldr, its an ability he got by much stronger people, capable of anyone in a set radius from using their magic.

Though... There are a ton of stuff that isn't magic in the verse, so it ain't as op as it sounds. It only works against magic.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Yeah, the protagonist. He has both an active power null that covers a set radius, and his passive one which just ***** over people that hit him with magic weaker than him.

I'll also try posting the quotes later, as the ones I posted were when I had the pc. The translation site is also an ass since you need to download it as pdf in order to copy text and stuff.

But tldr, its an ability he got by much stronger people, capable of anyone in a set radius from using their magic.

Though... There are a ton of stuff that isn't magic in the verse, so it ain't as op as it sounds. It only works against magic.

Cool then, that power null unless it have some conditions should work as normal power null in vs threads, so the other side would need power null resistance or a way to get past it using the possibly conditions of the ability, for example, you said that it null the activation in a set radius right? Well, opponents without power null resistance would need to get through it by using magic from a distance that he can't null.

About the translation site you could try to download a app that let you copy text even in that situation, I have one that let me do that for example and if that fail (which can happen in some cases) then I have a second option with a OCR app.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Pretty much, yeah. Theres also an ability that silences all active skills, making them unable to be used. Passives aren't silenced, however. Though, the Mc still didn't get that one yet. Although I'm 99% he eventually would.

Also yeah, OCR is a blessing tbh. I used quite a lot, but the process is still a bit annoying on phone. I also tried using novellibrary to copy the texts, but for some reason, when It mangled the text when in reader mode, sadly.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Pretty much, yeah. Theres also an ability that silences all active skills, making them unable to be used. Passives aren't silenced, however. Though, the Mc still didn't get that one yet. Although I'm 99% he eventually would.

And I am 100% he will get it.

Btw, what's the name of the novel, I honestly doubt I will read it in a near future, but maybe in a really long future I could do so.

 

[Rikimarox2]

"Turns out to be a great duelist"

Weird name, I found it by chance while scrolling through a dozens of other novels. It ain't some God tier work or anything, but it was enjoyable enough for me to read it. A breath of fresh air from all the Chinese novels.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Alrighty so I got the quote now.

“Can I hear more about Lady’s Commandment? I have no idea what absolute territory is.”

“As the word suggests, it’s just a whole territory. You can’t use magic there, for example. Within this territory, no one in the realm can use magic.”

“Including myself?”

“Yes, including you.”

Even so, it must have been an incredibly great power, but there were obvious drawbacks. The greater the impact of the absolute territory, the greater the amount of magic consumed in maintaining the area.

“No matter how much magic recovery {Heavenly Body} grants you, it won’t last a few minutes with such a grandiose territory.”

“Even if my magic stats go up?”

“Yes, not just you, but the enemies also become just as strong as you within the realm. The territory is absolute, but magic consumption is also relative.”

It has very obvious drawbacks, as he himself wouldn't be able to use Magic. Although it doesn't affect him that much since quite a bit of his stuff isn't magic, and he can use it because he relies on his skill to **** up the other opponent.

Although IIRC he can also use it so that people can't use dimensional travel to leave.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Aaaaaand, after reading more chapters, I got more questions.

His active powernull I just posted above, I'm not sure if its just powernull. The dude can think of anything, such as:

He can make it so in a set radius, no opponent can fly, even if they had wings.

He can make it so no opponent can use a certain ability.

He can make it so there isn't any aggression on set radius, altho idk how that works.

He can make it so no one can heal on set radius, that includes regeneration up to High-Mid since that's the limit the series has currently shown.

Hell, it can even override other stuff. For example, when he fought against himself, he made it a law so that anyone in set radius lose healing effects, but his clone made a law so that anyone in set radius would not lose healing effects.

Would this still be powernull, or could it be considered law manip since he's making it a law that anyone in radius cannot do anything? It was even described as a law.

Also, he has an ability that makes him immune to both physical and mental restraints. Not sure how the physical part works, but the mental part made a part of his powers, which sometimes made him bloodlusted or clouded his thoughts, disappear. Would that be enough for mind and emphatic manip resistance?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Aaaaaand, after reading more chapters, I got more questions.

His active powernull I just posted above, I'm not sure if its just powernull. The dude can think of anything, such as:

He can make it so in a set radius, no opponent can fly, even if they had wings.

He can make it so no opponent can use a certain ability.

He can make it so there isn't any aggression on set radius, altho idk how that works.

He can make it so no one can heal on set radius, that includes regeneration up to High-Mid since that's the limit the series has currently shown.

Hell, it can even override other stuff. For example, when he fought against himself, he made it a law so that anyone in set radius lose healing effects, but his clone made a law so that anyone in set radius would not lose healing effects.

Would this still be powernull, or could it be considered law manip since he's making it a law that anyone in radius cannot do anything? It was even described as a law.

Also, he has an ability that makes him immune to both physical and mental restraints. Not sure how the physical part works, but the mental part made a part of his powers, which sometimes made him bloodlusted or clouded his thoughts, disappear. Would that be enough for mind and emphatic manip resistance?

It would still be power null, though if it was explicitly described as laws then is power null via law manip.

The physical thing could be invulnerability and the mind stuff probably resistance to mind manip, could also be emphatic manip but I think just mind manip could fit better.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Ah okay, so I got one more teeny tiny problem. I know it's a bit annoying with all these questions, so I'm sorry if I'm annoying you.

But, the Mcs powernull, or law manip, can also do this

""By the heart of liberty, all constraint-related skills are terminated."

The moment the thousands arms in the ground rose to grab Yoon-seok's ankle, everything melted down"

Ain't sure how it works against physical beings Lsing the Mc, but I assume this should mean telekinesis related effects cannot work on Mc, yes? Since telekinesis is also technically a constraint related ability.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Ah okay, so I got one more teeny tiny problem. I know it's a bit annoying with all these questions, so I'm sorry if I'm annoying you.

But, the Mcs powernull, or law manip, can also do this

""By the heart of liberty, all constraint-related skills are terminated."

The moment the thousands arms in the ground rose to grab Yoon-seok's ankle, everything melted down"

Ain't sure how it works against physical beings Lsing the Mc, but I assume this should mean telekinesis related effects cannot work on Mc, yes? Since telekinesis is also technically a constraint related ability.

No problem, is actually fun and help to kill time and boredom.

If in verse exist telekinesis and is used to constraint others then logically it should be blocked/nulled.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Aha okay, but if we assume the powernull is done via law manip, would normal powernull resistance against it?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Aha okay, but if we assume the powernull is done via law manip, would normal powernull resistance against it?

Probably? A law resistance should also work.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Aaaand another question, hell ye.

"Upon landing, the basic stats of all beings within a 100m radius is fixed at Rank F- for 20 minutes."

How do we treat stuff like this when opponents in versus match don't have ranks? Rank F- is so god damn weak that a 9-B-9-A explosion could turn someone with Rank F- to a pile of flesh. Strength is overwhelmingly weaker as well, but I don't know about speed cuz speed is weird in this verse. And also what do I classify this ability with?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Aaaand another question, hell ye.

"Upon landing, the basic stats of all beings within a 100m radius is fixed at Rank F- for 20 minutes."

How do we treat stuff like this when opponents in versus match don't have ranks? Rank F- is so god damn weak that a 9-B-9-A explosion could turn someone with Rank F- to a pile of flesh. Strength is overwhelmingly weaker as well, but I don't know about speed cuz speed is weird in this verse. And also what do I classify this ability with?

Statistics Reduction.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Back yet again.

I got a small question about this:

When using the skill, the power of spatial control is granted.

And when he tried to test it initially, it was this:

Yoon-seok opened his palm. Then the space above it floated like rippling waves of water, and a crack began to form. The crack was about the size of the two fists combined, but the range could be increased if desired.

Like this.

Crackleeeeee…!

Grumbleeeeeeeeeee!

The cracks on his palm grew out of control. As a result, the entire waiting room began to shake as if there was an earthquake. Yoon-seok quickly shut down the power. If the waiting room collapsed under the influence of {Divine Ultimatum}, something very troublesome would happen.

But that was only in the waiting room, which he doesn't want to be destroyed. When he used it in battle, this happened:

Yoon-seok raised both palms. Then, the surrounding space began to distort and waver. At first glance, it looked like a summer heatwave. But the moment, Yoon-seok clenched his fists.

Crack.

Crackkkkk.

Like a cracked mirror, the warped space fragmented. The power of spatial control could only be used in the state of {Demonify}. After a moment, the cracks disappeared, but the pieces didn’t return to their original state.

Thuddddddddd.

Whether a creature or landmark, everything falls above the ground when it is divided into random cut puzzles. It was a bizarre scene that made viewers mesmerized, but Yoon-seok did not hesitate and continued to exert his power to the limit.

Crack!

Crack!

Creakkkk!

Massive chunks of each army disappeared with that one hand gesture. Translucent souls arose from everything that was destroyed and pulled into Yoon-seok’s body.

I already this is enough for spatial manip, but I assume it should also be enough for Durability negation via Spatial Manip?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

I saw this but was busy in the moment and completely forgot about it.

I already this is enough for spatial manip, but I assume it should also be enough for Durability negation via Spatial Manip?

Is obviously spatial manip but I'm not sure if that would actually be enough to durability negation, that scene alone at least don't make me think so, though I could be wrong.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Alrighty, then a simple question.

Would being killed thousands upon thousands of times grant you anything? Like, killing yourself in order to achieve something. I assume that wouldn't grant anything like limited resistance to madness manip or smth? I think I saw a profile with resistance to madness manip due to shit like that.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Alrighty, then a simple question.

Would being killed thousands upon thousands of times grant you anything? Like, killing yourself in order to achieve something. I assume that wouldn't grant anything like limited resistance to madness manip or smth? I think I saw a profile with resistance to madness manip due to shit like that.

I mean if they can be killed without reacting then they could have Pain Resistance. Oh and limited Resistance to Social Influencing (Does not fear death.)

But that's only if they like really don't care if they are killed or react when they die.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Resistance to pain manip or immense pain tolerance is already a granted, considering they can casually brush off shit like getting your arm cut, having your heart crushed, turned into a pile of meat, all while with 20x increase in pain.

But yeah, maybe limited resistance to social influencing. The dude died tens of thousands of times just to find a way to win against an enemy.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Alrighty, then a simple question.

Would being killed thousands upon thousands of times grant you anything? Like, killing yourself in order to achieve something. I assume that wouldn't grant anything like limited resistance to madness manip or smth? I think I saw a profile with resistance to madness manip due to shit like that.

This is a pain tolerance/stamina feat (if he felt pain) and possibly Supernatural Willpower, if there are more things that could support Supernatural Willpower then even better. But absolutely no resistance to Social Influencing or Pain, both of them need explicit proof and solid reasons.

The madness thing probably was do to how it was despicted said scene.

 

[Rikimarox2]

And I'm back, again. For a different character that already exists on the wiki but is outdated as shit.

So basically, there is a thing in the verse that tells anyone who touches it their level, affiliation, and abilities. However, the MC could give false info when it tries to do that.

Would that be resistance to information analysis?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

I guess.