Archie Sonic vs The Great Kitsune

[Phoenix821]

Both 2-A

Ultra Sonic

Sonic the Hedgehog: 7 (ShadowWarrior1999, ShakeResounding, ABoogieYesSir, Setsuna tenma, Epsilon R, Mr. Bambu, Schnee One )

The Great Kitsune: 1 (ZacharyGrossman273)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The Great Kitsune's power null + memory hax is kinda OP. He erased the memories of Nigh-Omniscient 2-As and turned them into normal humans. Plus fate hax, and Sonic's acausality is type 1.

Voting Kitsune, for now.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Kitsune seems to be well above baseline but Sonic still has the AP.

Sonic resists mindhax from Enerjak who can bypass 2-A resistance, and he did that as a 4-B.

That fate hax Kitsune has doesn't appear to be passive.

I'll go with Sonic via AP, range, and the fact that Archie 2-As can damage type 1 abstracts with normal energy attacks.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Kitsune memory wiped Nigh-Omniscients who resist 2-A mindhax

Fate Hax isn't passive, to be fair, but Kitsune spams Memory Manipulation, Power Null, Fate hax, Plot hax, and Probablity hax in character

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

And what are their resistance feats?

Plus Chaos Force beings do have cosmic awareness to be fair.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Have they ever mindhaxed each other?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

You still haven't addressed the insane power null

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Enerjak corrupted Chaos Knuckles in Dark Mobius by possessing him, which a weaker Hyper Knuckles resists 2-A mindhax from Master Mogul.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic resists power null.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Does he resist power null that removes immeasurable speed?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I mean, that's still power null. It's like asking if someone who resists mind control can resist memory hax when memory is part of the mind.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

How much money did Zach pay you to make this

 

[ShakeResounding]

I... Think Sonic takes this?

Unless I'm reading the profile wrong, TGK's powers are magic based due to him being a Celestial, right? That's bad news for him if that's the case, considering Sonic's aura nullifies anything magic/spell-based.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Sonic FRA

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

sonic fra

 

[Epsilon_R]

Sonic fra

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Is Kitsune's stuff magic? Specifically his Power Null since that is the most relevant.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Is Kitsune's stuff magic? Specifically his Power Null since that is the most relevant.

Magic (Sabrina stated Celestials powers are magic),

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Waiting for Zach to specify if

ALL of it is magic

Just in case. If he doesn't in say a day I'll vote Sonic.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Maaaaaaaybe? Celestials exist in the sense of "Lovecraftian horror", but used for comedy purposes. I'm actually not sure if all they have counts as magic or not.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Was it stated to be magic and is there a reason to believe the Power Null would be something different?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

IIRC, it was just a single mortal saying they use magic. So, not entirely sure.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Hm.

I don't suppose the mortal was in any way a reliable source of information, or was it just "here's this crazy shit I don't understand that's hella advanced so it's probably magic or something I don't know">

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean, magic definitely exists in verse, and IIRC one of the celestials gave a mortal magic powers.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Then it seems reasonable enough to assume they know what they're talking about.

So for now I vote Sonic FRA.

 

[Schnee_One]

Sonic Nullifies and kicks the face to space

Also FRA

 

[Epsilon_R]

That's 7-1

Grace started: 21h left

 

[ShakeResounding]

Looks like this is wrapped up. Bambu, would you be willing to add this?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Added this to Sonic's profile. Someone add it to The Great Kitsune's and this can be closed.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Looks like this is wrapped up. Bambu, would you be willing to add this?

Can't add stuff, being that I'm not staff, but with my not-staff powers I can certainly close this.