Archie Sonic vs Pegasus Seiya

[The_real_cal_howard]

Holy shit this is fair...

That's...literally all I have to say. I know there's already a match going on with him, but I needed to make this once I realized that I could.

 

[PaChi2]

So many seiya threads.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

This had to be done. I could not let another minute go by without this matchup existing. At least not with a clear conscience.

 

[Gargoyle_1]

IDK TBH.

I'm inclined to give it to Sonic via his reality warping, but I want to check their speed.

 

[RoyGundam]

umm ... Seiya has more impressive powers than Sonic TBH. He has Soul Manip, against which Sonic doesn't have a Resistance and Reactive Evolution. On the other hand, Sonic has the advantages of Reality Warping and Time Stop - which are countered by Acausality and Reactive Evolution respectively (In Saint Seiya Omega, the protagonists were shown to be able to adapt to Aquarius Saint's Time Stop technique).

However, Sonic's speed is Unknown while Seiya is pinned at ~10^30 times the speed of light. I am answering here on the premise that Sonic would not speedblitz Seiya

 

[Plasmalucario]

going with seiya via hax and being much more faster

 

[HoboPlayz]

seiya all the way because more powerful useful and variable HAX and abilities like his soul manipulation 8th sense atomic destruction and manipulation and if full god cloth he stomps hard

 

[RoyGundam]

bump

 

[Flaminghell]

Seiya went against gods and such before and came out clean. Seiya should take this with his god cloth.

 

[Gargoyle_1]

Going up against gods of your own verse doesn't mean anything when comparing two different verses.

 

[Flaminghell]

My apologies, It seems you want more explaining. Seiya went against gods that can alter reality, creating universes and destroy them at will, manipulating space-time. I could go on to show you how strong the gods are (Poseidon and Hades, look at their profiles to see for yourself) now imagine Seiya being up with that.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Alter reality, creating/destroying universes and manipulating space-time is something every tier 2 can do .-.

 

[RoyGundam]

^Seiya has better powers than Sonic. This is pointless distraction

 

[Flaminghell]

Anon, I know, but he wanted more explanation.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

You could simply said "Seiya by reasons above" .-.

You explanation is that Seiya barely hurt Hades and can alter reality, create/destroy universe and manipulate space-time

Which is something every 2-C can do...

but well... i am gonna count the votes

Seiya 5 (Flaming, Roy, Hobo, Plas, me ["<])

Sonic 1 (Gargoyle 1)

 

[Flaminghell]

Sorry, I'm still new here and yeah, I've seen this "for reasons above" in some fights.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Actually, if anything, Archie Sonic is faster.

 

[Flaminghell]

Actually, if anything, they're pretty much equal, that's what their profile says. Arguably Seiya could be faster. He literally dodged an FTL attack way before the sanctuary arc. It was very early in the manga before the gods and such interfere at all.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Sonic at base was able to run a entire multiverse twice in less than a day...

 

[Flaminghell]

Forgot that Seiya dodged that FTL attack with a broken leg and an incomplete control over his 7th sense. That's without his cloth....and that was actually like his very base and was also downgraded. Imagine what a God Cloth Seiya can do. Being as fast as Sonic perhaps? that's what his profile says?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bro, one casual FTL feat is nothing on this level, let alone this high in it. God Cloth users are sex/septillions X FTL. And MFTL+ is a gigantic tier.

 

[LordGinSama]

Should the speed be equalized?

 

[Flaminghell]

Just letting that out, really. But hey, why did you say Archie Sonic is faster?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Archie Sonic's feat is only slightly behind Wally West's iirc, who's tredecillions

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Wasn't Seiya faster?

 

[LordGinSama]

Also I thought Seiya had one of the best speed feats in fiction? I can't remember which feat it was tho.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Faster than whom?

 

[Flaminghell]

I have a link that supports Seiya being faster than a gold saint that outran the big bang "The universe" in just a 0.01 second. Can I post it?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Guys. It's this in speed feats:

Lucifer Morningstar

Amitabulls***

Flash (Wally West) (Post-Crisis)

Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)

I forget the Saint that did that feat

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Feat was calculated. Septillions.

 

[Flaminghell]

There was another calculation.

 

[Promestein]

It's Shura.

 

[Flaminghell]

There's a calculation for him that said he can cross the universe in just 0.01 second.

 

[LordGinSama]

You guy's should still equalize the speed just to be fair.