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Apotheosis (Manhua): True Gods and Saints as High 3-A (High Universe Level) Characters (CRT Part 3)

Since there's a massive revision on the tiering system, might as well create a new CRT thread on this series. I copied the Part 2 CRT, but I tweaked some infos that aligns to the new Tiering System.

MASSIVE DISCLAIMER: This is only the manhua version of the characters that falls on this category (Saints and True Gods) and it has little or nothing to do with their LN counterparts.

Cosmology

The storyline currently takes place inside the saint's universe named "Universe of Great Expanse", which owned by Luo Xiao. This isn't your typical universe, as the universe was divided into 2 hierarchal realms: The Lower and Upper Realm, and the
transcendental realm, the God's Domain.

btw, this is the overview of the entire universe: (art's not mine, credits to Zero/Mass. simplified for easier understanding.)

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• Lower Realm: At the very bottom of the Universe of Great Expanse is the Great Thousand World, or Lower Realm. This is a massive plane of one million, thirty-three, star sized planets each, all laid out on a grid. The worlds were originally divided by a Pseudo-Wall of Sighs until the Ancient Witch Clan destroyed the grid, united all the worlds.
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• Upper Realm: The Upper Realm is often referred to as the Great Realm. It's important to note the this isn't just one, gigantic planet but 100,000 separate planets all ruled by the Clear Blue Sky Divine Path (will of the universe).

These Great Worlds are connected through Space Channels that allows normal beings to transverse the vast distances between worlds.

Do note that each Great World is SO MASSIVE than each Great Thousand World. A city (referred as "Holy City") of a certain Great World, is 1/10th the size of the Lower Realm.

• The scale of the Universe of Great Expanse is considered as "Infinite". Although it looks finite on the outside, the space inside the universe is infinite. And that's because:

In Apotheosis Chapter 829, Luo Zheng (the MC of Apotheosis) stated that his father's universe contains countless beings and also the inner world inside his dantian. As his mind is also infinite, so does the world he resides (which is the Saint's Universe) is also infinite. Not just "infinitely expanding" like a normal universe on fiction does, but just "infinite".

It might confuse you, but the "world" that he's referring to as "infinite", is the Universe of Great Expanse (which his father owned). And since both of them (Including his son, Luo Zheng), contains countless beings inside their bodies (the word countless is related to the word infinite but in numerical sense), their universe is also infinitely large (because a finite space couldn't contain infinite amount of objects in a logical sense.)

In conclusion, the Universe of Great Expanse, or any other Universe owned by Saints and True Gods, is a High 3-A Structure.

• God's Domain: The God Domain (Endless God Territory) is a great ship and the internal world built by the head of the nine tribes of the Nine Li (Saint) race, Chi You, to save his people from the 100000 Xuan Yuan Protectors (Yellow Emperor Guards). He sent the ship off from the Source World(Mother World) as a final effort to save his clan and it is sailing through the sea of primordial chaos. The finite amount of universes of Saints and True Gods are embedded on the ship.

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True Gods and Saints's Feats

(Note: Heavenly=Divine, Path=Dao. The translations might interchange, but the words are literally the same meaning)

1. Divine Spark Plate + Divine Spark Condensation = Transcendental Beings

Possessing a Divine Spark Plate+Divine Spark makes you a transcendental being. Not only to any Saint's Universes, but also to the Heavenly Dao/Way, and can freely enter the God's Domain. Not only just Daozis who condensed a divine spark+possess a divine spark plate, but also the True Gods, and Saints.

No matter how hard you'll find a way to have the same level as teh Daozis, as long as you doesn't possess divine spark plate and condensed your own divine spark, you can't transcend and freely enter God's Domain, and you can't reach their level, because they transcended from your own plane of existence.

2. Secondary Beings and "Omnipotence" of Saints in their own Universe

(Note: Geniune=True, Yuan=Energy, translation difference due to various scanlations on the manhua)

Secondary Beings are called to the entities that inhabits inside a saint's universe. They are beings that is made of True Yuan essence. Secondary Beings is a stereotype to those who lives inside the saint's universe.
So why does being a "Secondary Being" is insignificant?

There are 2 reasons why being a "Secondary Being" is an insignificant, and can be portrayed as "unreal" entities in the eyes of the higher beings outside the universe:

a. They are made of True Yuan Essence. True Yuan Essence was used by almost cultivators inside the saint's universe (except one person, apotheosis readers knew who is this person). The main and unique characteristics of True Yuan is "power of visualization" (low-end Reality Warping) and "Strength of Belief" (high-end Reality Warping).

Now if something can create existence from nonexistence using just the True Yuan (Genuine Energy) by using billions of entities, Saints doing the same thing is an easy feat, because they are "omnipotent" inside their Universe. But the inhabitants inside the Saint's Universe, why are they insignificant, and worse, will turn into nonexistent outside God's Domain? because of:

b. Being born from True Yuan (Geniune Energy) is considered as unreal entities in God's Domain
this is the most important reason why Secondary Beings can't transcend to God's Domain. Because once a Secondary Being leaves the saint's universe unwanted, they turn into a clump of True Yuan energy and became inexistent, akin as defying the Heavenly Way/Dao and leaving the Domain (Saint's Universe). Unless you possess the divine spark plate and condensed a divine spark. Basically, being called as "unreal" is just a stretch, a stereotypical remark of higher-level entities to those who lives inside the saint's universe.

3. Beyond the Heavenly/Divine Dao (Temporal) and The Saint's Universe (Spatial)


Saints are entities that controls a universe, and at the same time possess a divine dao inside their own universes. Divine Dao is the one who controls and records the fate of the universe, both past, present, and future. Basically, a universe has their own Divine Path/Dao, which owned by a certain Saint. Being the owner of the Divine Dao, or even beyond the Divine Dao, are considered as transcendental being, a fateless one, not to mention Daozis and True Gods. Transcending the Divine Dao=transcending the temporal rules of the Saint's universe.

The spaces on a Saint's Universe is considered as very different compared to God's Domain. Because a Saint's universe is considered as "unreal" spaces that is made by the Saints, and the God's Domain is the real world. It might be a stretch, but in simpler terms, it is just a stereotypical remarks of the higher-world entities because of their difference on their creation.

Conclusion

- True Gods and Saints are Transcendental Beings that can create their own Inner Universe (3-A+)

-Any living beings that lives inside the saint's universe, and those who can't transcend due to the lack of posession of Divine Spark Plate + didn't condense a Divine Spark is considered as insignificant or unreal beings.

- True Gods and Saints transcends spatiotemporal rules of their own inner universe, especially Saints that created the Heavenly Way and the Domain/Saint's Universe.

(Note: An inner world will be qualified to be called as a "Universe" if their inner world possess a Divine Spark and produces "Potential" to support the cultivator's immortality, and create their own Divine Dao/Heavenly Way that records the fates of each living beings inside their inner world, and all the Laws that governs the inner world)

Before I end, to those who want to dig deeper about the Apotheosis cosmology, character and general infos about the story (Manhua and LN alike), there's a wiki all about Apotheosis. The LN is slightly inconsistent but the manhua infos are already fact-checked by the apotheosis LN readers daily and constantly reporting in our discord if there's any trolling edits and removes nonfactual information ASAP.
 
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For those who are confused. I made this CRT so that if I made a verse profile in the future, at least I have an approval to the staffs.

To those active staffs that are online now, please review this thread so I could begin right away. This feat is already behind on the latest chapters on the manhua, and I will upgrade the verse after it is approved.
 
The saint created the universe within his body and also created the Divine Dao, and the Divine Dao controls and records the fate of the universe in the past, present, and future... Transcending the Divine Dao=transcending the temporal order of the universe means. that the Divine Dao is also the creator of time in the universe So is it possible for the Saints to be a Low 2-C?
 
The saint created the universe within his body and also created the Divine Dao, and the Divine Dao controls and records the fate of the universe in the past, present, and future... Transcending the Divine Dao=transcending the temporal order of the universe means. that the Divine Dao is also the creator of time in the universe So is it possible for the Saints to be a Low 2-C?
They could be. There is a complete separation of space-time continuum on inside of each universes of the True Gods. Divine Dao is different in each True Gods and Saints, that's why they perceive those who lives inside to be "unreal" entities.

Idk why the staffs refute that fact since it was stated multiple times in the manhua.
 
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