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Nine realms: Nine independent universes(2-A structures) with their own time separated by the interval.

Interval: The gap between realms, and a place where objects or beings who transcend space-time reside. The distance between realms varies and Two universes(Earth and Hell) were stated to have an equal time flow because the distance between them is small.(Interval>realm in size)

World tree: Every major branch of the world tree is macrocosm on it's own. With their own concepts, law of physics and history. The cosmology of the nine realms exist within the twig or represented by it. The great trees of each realms are the avatars of the branch that contain them.(Tree->Limb->branch->twig)

Compass: A device that locate anything and give visual infomation about it. It can show other realms and measure the distance between them(energy=range). But even with infinite energy the user couldn't detect anything outside the nine realm.


Elements:
Water, wind(mist), light(mirror)

「Then, perhaps it’s a god in savior-san’s world? There is a strong and pretty presence of wind around you.」

「Yep yep! You see, mister. The wind is connected anywhere in the world. Surely that god too marked you mister so they can sense you wherever you are.」

「You are connected to that god by wind after all! And they are also a god, so I think it will be easy for them to come!」

According to them, it wasn’t just limited to wind, apparently existences who possessed nature divinity of water or light were also relatively easy to summon although not as easy as the hero as long as there was some kind of connection formed even through the partition of the world. Especially divinity with strong connection with “World Tree’s Branch”.

「The gap of “hell” and “this world” is wavering. Just now, I said that they could not cross the gap of worlds without the “mirror gate” but……now is different. In this time when this gap is wavering, if there is a medium that can easily connect the interval, they will be able to descend to “this world” with a strong body maintaining their existence.」

For example, a mirror. A mirror that reflected another world, especially when there was an opposite mirror, the gap of worlds could be shaken just with that.

For example, a thick mist. A heavy mist that shut the field of vision where it was impossible to look even an inch ahead, it could also shake the spot of “this world” itself.

And then, water.

The world was connected by water. Water was a natural “gate” that crossed every world.

The Spirit whale used mist to send them to a city that exist in the gap

Of course, Myu had no idea what the creature was, either. But it seemed she was sensing something from it. Something inside her was telling Myu that they couldn’t hurt it, and Hajime could tell from the earnest look in her eyes that she sincerely believed that. She just couldn’t express it in words. While Hajime was hesitating, their surroundings continued to transform. The whirlwind of mist sped up until they were surrounded by a wall of fog, making it look like they were in the eye of a storm. But the sky above them wasn’t clear, like it would be in a normal storm. It, too, was covered in swirling dense fog. But instead of sucking up the surrounding water, the fog hurricane was pushing it away, creating a crater in the ocean.

“Does it mean to drag us down to the bottom of the ocean?”

“It’s strange... I can sense mana from everything around us, both the fog and the water.”

The city

Now, centuries or perhaps millennia later, the seal had been weakened to the point where it was nearly gone. If the lynchpin of the seal, the tower that the whale was fused with, broke, then the ancient evil horrors would regain their full strength and would start terrorizing people across all worlds and all times.

“Mister Whale’s been waiting this whole time for someone who can fix the seal to come! He said he needed really strong ‘Synergist-creators!’”

This abandoned capital didn’t actually exist anywhere within the real world. It had once stood where the sea they’d come from was, but the seal had transported it into a gap between dimensions. Basically, this whole space was a city-sized Treasure Trove.

And because the whale was also the product of that ancient civilization, it too possessed the power to transcendspace and time. However, its power had been greatly weakened, so it could only transport people here once, and only people who visited the particular stretch of sea the capital had once been on. Meaning this was the only chance anyone would ever have to repair this seal. Restoration magic wouldn’t be enough to do it because a lot of the damage to the seal was too old to be realistically recovered. It would take more mana than anyone in the world possessed. Which was why the whale had needed to bring in people who could analyze the seal and rebuild it from the ground up, namely Synergists who could use creation magic. Not only that, Synergists with more skill and mana than either Hajime or Oscar possessed individually.

“So it brought you and Oscar-oniisan together even though you’re from different times, Daddy! It made a miracle!”

When they were sent back

But that didn’t seem right. Looking down at his watch, he noticed almost no time had passed since the last thing he remembered. Hajime slowly got to a sitting position, careful not to push Remia or Myu off.

Disrupting portals

“It’s strange... I can sense mana from everything around us, both the fog and the water.”

“Hajime-san, I think we’ll be okay! I’m not seeing any future where we die, at least!”

Hajime shot Yue a glance. Though he said nothing, it was a trivial task for her to read his thoughts, and she quickly created a teleportation portal to let everyone escape. But before she could send anyone through—

“Daddy! He’s calling for us! He wants us to save him!”

“Wh-What?”

Unfortunately, there wasn’t enough time to process that or ask Myu what she meant. Owooooooooooooooooooooo!The creature let out a howl. It wasn’t a threatening sound, though. In fact, it almost sounded melodic. A second later, Hajime and the others were surrounded by light, and their consciousness began to fade.

“Shi—” Yue shouted, panicking. The portal she’d created scattered to the four winds. SS Volume p215

After he got left alone in the middle of torii corridor, he kept walking for half a day through the long corridor that was clearly far longer than in reality no matter how he looked at it.

The stone paving and red torii’s were extending endlessly without any change in scenery. It felt like he was not making any progress at all. The outside of the corridor was covered in mist, and even when he threw caution to the wind and tried charging daringly into the mist, he only ended up at his original spot.

He also tried using the Gate artifact, but although it activated, the light membrane had noises running through it or wavering, or dispersing from the edge. It looked dodgy and didn’t seem usable. Ch 404

Questions:
1)Are the elements smurf hax ?

2)What is the dimensionality of the gap and what do you get for shaking/weakening it ?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Questions:
1)Are the elements smurf hax ?

Water seems to be the 4th dimension, or so it seems, the container of muItipIe worIds/universes, so it shouId have 4D Higher-DimensionaI Existence

For Wind, it seems Iike just MuItiIocation, tho, the context for it is too Iess as compared to water; At best, it wouId be a 3-A IeveI omnipresence

2)What is the dimensionality of the gap ?

NormaIIy, I wouId be incIined to say that it is 4-D as weII, bare minimum, but the fact that something Iike this exists is probIematic:

Basically, this whole space was a city-sized Treasure Trove.

Tho, if there it is referring to onIy this CapitaI and not the whoIe of the gap, then 4D HDE is stiII appIicabIe

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Forgot to mention there is elemental spirits that govern over those elements

Water seems to be the 4th dimension, or so it seems, the container of muItipIe worIds/universes, so it shouId have 4D Higher-DimensionaI Existence

Nothing about water containg the worlds just connecting them

For Wind, it seems Iike just MuItiIocation, tho, the context for it is too Iess as compared to water; At best, it wouId be a 3-A IeveI omnipresence

He was connected to the wind spirit although he was on another universe. "world" refere to all the realms.

NormaIIy, I wouId be incIined to say that it is 4-D as weII, bare minimum, but the fact that something Iike this exists is probIematic:

Why not 5D ?

1)It's bigger than the realms.
2)It surround and exist between the realms.
3)Transcending space-time transport youin the gap
4)It's size affect the time difference between realms.

Tho, if there it is referring to onIy this CapitaI and not the whoIe of the gap, then 4D HDE is stiII appIicabIe

The capital(pocket dimension) is the city that was transported into the gap thtough transcending space-time. It could access all the realms cross all times.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Forhot to mention there is elemental spirits that govern over those elements

Does each eIement have one eIementaI Spirit or are there muItipIe for each? If its the Iatter, it might be difficuIt to judge their omnipresence or such, but if it is one, it wouId be easier

Nothing about water containg the worlds just connecting them

I meant, that reaIIy sounds Iike its more Iike a container with the worIds being akin to isoIated space-times or bubbIes in it, something Iike Maou Gakuin I suppose

Why not 5D ?

1)It's bigger than the realms.
2)It surround and exist between the realms.
3)Transcending space-time transport youin the gap
4)It's size affect the time difference between realms.

It is 5D if you Iook at the overaII Dimensions it possesses, however, we dont assume the 4th spatiaI axis between space-times is significant by defauIt; we take it as insignificant enough to remain 2-A
I made a detaiIed post here regarding this kind of stuff, feeI free to check

The capital(pocket dimension) is the city that was transported into the gap thtough transcending space-time. It could access all the realms cross all times.

Ah, so the the whoIe space is referring to onIy the pocket dimension of the city? Then it is fine

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Does each eIement have one eIementaI Spirit or are there muItipIe for each?

Here:

Each realm has a planet with giant tree on it. Those trees are the avatars of the branch and each tree has an avatar(goddess) that govern the "world".

「Or perhaps, there might even be the core world that produced the elements. Perhaps this giant tree that exist in every world, is nothing more than the branch of the true world tree that is soaring high in that core world.」Ch 381

『The majestic great tree. The protector tree of the sea of trees. The symbol of the holy ground. As someone who has been together with the great tree ever since I was born, there is something that I have been sensing somehow all this time.』

Was this just the biggest and oldest tree in the world?

Was it the center of the sea of trees?

No, that wasn’t all there was to it. This tree wasn’t something that could simply be described as this world’s symbol.

『It’s more, yes, it feels like this tree is taking root even deeper, until the core of this world……I am not talking about physically, but conceptually, it feels like the tree is connected to something that surpass human’s understanding……pardon me. I can’t really describe it well……』

Lyutilis stared at empty air as she desperately tried to put the sensation she was feeling into words, however, in the end she couldn’t find the right word and smiled wryly. She then turned her gaze toward Hajime and co again.

But there, her eyes were the eyes of a transcendental who had arrived at the highest peak of human knowledge. It was the shudderingly deep gaze of the user of an age of god magic for interfering with information.

『But, please at least remember this. That the great tree is not merely an ancient and large tree. Losing the great tree might possibly lead to a disaster that cannot be undone.』

This character is able to see the fundamental information that form reality and fundamental concepts and manipulate them.
BTW, the goddesses and spirits authorities comes from the tree, but it's limited to one realm.

The elemental spirits were created to govern nature through the goddess splitting her soul(concepts, authority...). Each spirit is related to an element and can control or create it's element. But their name suggest otherwise like the fire spirit "the spirit of the fire circle" that govern over heat and light or ice spirit that govern vapor and cold.

The ES created independent clones from spliting their soul, said clone regain their full form, personality and authority after some tile and energy. The clones left to nother realm and were able to naturally control it's nature.

When they were put inside an empty dimension "nature" just manifested, and without them doing anything this "nature" become chaotic like a volcano on a frozen lake unknow rainbow trees...

Now then, the seven colored orbs that were newly equipped into Vire Drucken and gave back really humane reaction like this……their true identity was the seven colored slimes――not, but the seven soul fragments of the divine spirits who ruled over nature.

Or to be more accurate, the orbs were treasure warehouse that was their new dwelling. Inside each orb there was a world that was modeled after nature to their preference, in addition, the orb of star tree that was set up at the deepest part of Vire Drucken was connected to all the orbs. Like that, through the orbs, the power of spirit element and the power of soul fragment could be manifested.

With god clad mode the war hammer entered activation state. By calling the name of the divine spirit, the hammer would change into a mode that ruled over each nature. Rather than saying that it was Shia herself who invoked the phenomenon, it was the divine spirits who were made to activate the phenomenon that Shia wished for.

By the way, the formula and the crest were optional from Hajime. If asked whether it was necessary or not, it was completely unnecessary. But, it was cool so it was necessary! It was so necessary that even the soul fragments needed seven days and seven nights to invent their own crest with Hajime’s suggestion!

Also, the nature inside the orb, it became like that on its own. At first Hajime’s idea was for the soul fragments to enter into the orb only when it was time to fight. So to speak, it would be like a pilot entering the cockpit.

But……as expected from the soul fragments of divine spirits and the star tree’s foliage that governed over nature. When they noticed, nature was born inside the orb and the inside became more comfortable to live in instead of outside, so they settled down inside there.

Treasure warhouses= pocket dimensions where they store stuff.

Star tree orb= an orb with leaves from the Star tree(The tree of their world)

I meant, that reaIIy sounds Iike its more Iike a container with the worIds being akin to isoIated space-times or bubbIes in it, something Iike Maou Gakuin I suppose

I realy don't where you got that from, mind explaining ?

The idea of water being used as medium of travelling exist in multiple other fictional works .

Ah, so the the whoIe space is referring to onIy the pocket dimension of the city? Then it is fine

Yes

 

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Here's the scan for nine universes

「……Don’t perceive what we called “other world” at the level of a “single planet”. Perceive it wider as a “single universe”, huh. Well, certainly that tracks. Even the desert world has outer space outside the planet and also other planets. Perhaps there is also planet with abundant nature and life somewhere in that vast universe.」

What Hajime and others vaguely called “other world” wasn’t a “different planet” that existed inside the same universe by all means. The universe itself was different from their universe, and the planet that they knew there was nothing more than a single planet inside that different universe.

Hajime once more spoke of the great premise that he had to base his perception on while tossing the tablet in his hand on the desk. He joined his hands behind his head and leaned back deeply on his chair. He stared at the empty space in order to sort his thinking.

「In other words, the “nine other worlds”, should be called as “nine other universes” to be more accurate……」Ch 470

The branches

According to Foltina, even their nine universes were located on nothing more than a single branch from a major branch that extended from the world tree. Furthermore their universes were nothing more than the leaves that grew at the further end of a smaller branch. There were other branches and leaves beside their branch. Nearby branch would have similar worlds with theirs, while the far away branch could possibly could have worlds with completely different culture and history engraved on them.

Not only that, it might even be possible that there were different major branches that grew from the world tree, where mankind itself didn’t exist there in the first place, where the worlds were completely different, in law of physics, concept, or the world’s underlying principle.

「It’s not a simple story where there’s an origin world and that’s it huh.」Ch 470

The origin world is where The World Tree reside. You can think of it as the end of the cosmology.


The realms are connected, but they still got boundaries. Demons are an advanced civilisation from Hell(universe) they were able to travel to Earth(the universe) until the realms were locked.

「The world that we humans titled as “hell”, is truly in a state that is worthy of the title “hell”, but once before it was overflowing with nature and was a world with rows of cities that were developed even further than the current Earth.」

From the beginning, “hell” was another world with an existence that overlapped with “Earth”. Although there was a gap between worlds, both worlds would occasionally influence each other――spirited away, supernatural phenomenon, UMA, etc.――due to the closeness.

And then, the residences of the world that were far more developed than Earth noticed Earth’s existence.

「Miracles, magic, sorcery……smoke won’t rise without fire. The live coals that are the cause for the birth of those concepts were, yes, the technology of those who crossed over to Earth. You understand now? In the period that is called the ancient era, in the far past, miracles and magic also existed on Earth. Because the residences of hell brought them here.」

Magical girls existed. Even magicians existed. Legendary weapons, chosen heroes, and also great people existed. The mythical beasts and monsters certainly existed too.

Everything was due to the “god’s magic” that was used by the residences of hell.

「God’s……magic, you say?」

「Yes, that’s right, you. The residences of hell, the demons, performed miracles. For the earthlings――they were truly gods.」Ch 308

There was no clear division. If there was an other-worlder who sided with Earth, then there was also an earthling who sided with the other world.

But, it seemed definitive that there was an outbreak of conflict that crossed the two worlds.

As a result, a power that was equal to the work of god transformed the other world into “hell”, and the losers were locked in that world. Ch 308

Seven deadly sins

「See, Bel-chan and others, they told Myuu nano. They all are just bored, doing nothing but ruling or quarreling, that they even got sick of their friends, and then, one day they felt power with presence that is similar with themselves, and when they tried going following the attraction, they came to Myuu’s place, they said.」

「Similar presence……」

Could it be, they referred to the self-proclaimed god of Tortus? Or else, did they mean the age of god magic? At that time, Tortus was just a step before the world’s demise. Certainly tremendous power was at work at that time.

Perhaps it somehow shook the worlds interval between Tortus and hell. Ch 319

Demon statment

「Ee~, what is this situation……」

Hajime who spontaneously muttered. The three camps who were in an explosive situation gasped and turned their gaze toward Hajime and co.

「Claire! Also Wynn and others too! You all did well coming back!」

――Crossing over the world boundary? Who are you-

「Aa――――!! PAPAAAAAAAAA-」Ch 319

Lutria abruptly casted her gaze down. Apparently she was carefully examining the information that she had received from the divine spirits (other than Enti). Her expression grimaced slightly. As though she was directly facing an incomprehensible fact.

「It looks like you knew about the fact that the time difference itself exist only just now huh.」

「……Yes, a small concept like time is something alien for god. However, for fellow planets where the great tree exist in each, difference in the flow of time shouldn’t……is this also the influence of many of the great trees being lost? Or perhaps the cause came from the world being closed……」

Lutria got immersed in some kind of thought in the middle of her words and she started muttering to herself. Hajime narrowed his eyes while the other people were showing confusion. Ch 491

Lutria is the goddess who created the elemental spirit.




This is just my own interpretation, but the MC didn't know about the realms being universes, although he was able to measure the distance between them. So, it could mean that the the realms are immeasurably small in comparison to the interval

‘It’s pointless no matter where you hide. After all I already remember your face and also this world’s coordinate. Eh? Eh?’, with a yakuza face that seemed to say that, Yue-sama crouched beside the star tree Lutria and glared at her. Ch 343

「……Well, doesn’t matter. If it’s thanks say it too Shizuku and others. If they didn’t ask me I won’t purposefully spent magic power like stupid to come here. This world is absurdly far just so you know.」Ch 277

「Tsu, no, reaction?」

「……Hajime?」

The compass’s effective range was in proportion with the amount of magic power poured into it.

With the magic power he poured right now, just a mere distance from here to Akiba, no, even if it was anywhere in Japan the compass would be able to cover it. And yet, there was no reaction. Shia wasn’t within the search range.

Hajime leaped down from the bed and his magic power surged even more. As expected, there was no way the activation of magic power that tremendous would be unnoticed. Downstairs he could feel Tio was taken aback. The sound of her immediately going up the stairs in hurry could be heard. Ch 336

「……Hajime. Shia?」

「She isn’t in earth. She is in another world that isn’t Tortus.」

「Muh, doth that mean she was summoned by someone ?」Ch 336

「Tio, call Kaori and others. Our magic power stock is unreliable after the previous gate opening. In preparation of the worst case, I want to keep in reserve a stock of magic crystal so we will be able to return right away.」

「We art going to collect the stock for going there from those with magic power? So it’s not enough with just us, Shia hast been sent to a really far away place.」Ch 336

Tio pressed her hands in prayer inside her heart. If Shia was sent into another world accidentally because the border that separated the worlds were shaking or something, then that was still alright. Ch 336

Even though he has infinite energy

He summoned the compass on his hand. He toyed with that object that was shaped like pocket watch on his palm while recalling when he searched for existence outside of the nine worlds.

The result went without saying. The compass showed no reaction at all.

Perhaps there was a powerful partition that even the compass was unable to grasp. Or perhaps something like the rule of the world was obstructing it. Ch 470

Don't know what is this partition, maybe the branch ?


Hero's blessing

According to the explanation, hero referred to someone with the qualification to become the protector of the “World Tree’s Branch”.

In other words it was the same existence like the avatar of “World Tree’s Branch” like Aularodde, but in case of avatar, they also functioned as the last fortress, so they fundamentally were unable to separate from the “Branch”.

When the world’s balance was starting to go out of order due to internal or external calamity or due to conflict and the like among the lives of that world, the “hero” would shoulder the role of balancer as the hands and feet of the avatar.

That was why, when the avatar sought help and carried out a summoning, it would definitely get connected to the hero. Also, it was because the hero was an existence with the quality that the World Tree recognized, the hero was able to pass through the gap between worlds. Though as the side effect of that, when a hole was drilled open in the gap between worlds, most of the time it would also get connected to the hero. Ch 386

"World tree branch" refer to the twig that hold the nine realms.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

His working on a spaceship to travel outside the nine realms, here are some details about it

「This thing is formerly the strongest battleship of a certain world.」

Its total length was around 400 meters. Its size was like two of the the greatest class of aircraft carrier of earth getting enlarged to be two sizes bigger and lined side by side. It was astonishingly huge.

「It followed an eventful fate and became a single nation that protected the people on board of it.」

The sky world where dragons and humans coexisted with each other, the queen there let go of this ship as the proof of their determination that they didn’t need such immense power anymore, the same like this world.

「I made a promise with those guys who had lived together with this ship for many years.」

「Pro, mise?」

That ship was so large that the sun was completely blocked by it. It was floating not with sky dragon power, but with countless gravity stones that were installed later on, so it was consuming Hajime’s magic power like water even at this moment. But Hajime only nodded without showing any sign of it on his face.

「I’ll turn this thing into a luxury cruise ship. It won’t be a sad battleship anymore. But to be the world’s greatest passenger ship to go to adventure through the endless space toward the unknown worlds. A ship that can bring anyone and anything on board of it.」Ch 381

It was the spherical space that made appearance in the work of fiction that depicted the activity of certain men of X-Men. A certain professor used that to magnify his telepathic ability and could connect with people all over the world.

Certainly, Hajime had told G10 about the idea itself. Avenst was huge. If it was intended to travel the sea of dimension then it would need countless functions.

And so, Hajime thought if such device could be used to pilot the ship or grasp the situation inside the ship. Actually, the Cere*ro-lookalike that was created underground the new Grant residence was also doubling as experiment for this.

「Yes, captain. In this central, I’m able to grasp the situation throughout the holy land. No, not only that, it’s possible for me to grasp the situation of this whole planet as well as the outer space to a certain degree.」Ch 506

It could be refering to something else.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

2 temporal axis ?

Restoration magic was magic that manipulated time. Which explained why in her message, Meiru had described it as magic that restores and not magic that heals. However, it could do more than just restore things to a previous state. Since it could interfere with time directly, it could be used to look into the past or potential futures based on set decision variables. Shea’s Future Sight was, in fact, just one application of restoration magic.

「……The accurate time axis has to be searched through the different time axis of that time, so it’s too hard for Kaori. Impossible. You’ll fail anyway. That’s why don’t force yourself. Because I’ll do it.」

「Those are one and even two words too many! If you’re picking a fight then I’ll take it up you know!?」

Should it be called “empty state of mind provocation (limited to Kaori)” already?

Kaori was about to jump Yue but Shizuku held her back from behind with an exasperated face. Meanwhile Yue purposefully made a sound 「Muuu~n」. She was really making a show that she was focusing to knead her magic power and searching for the time axis.

Of course, Yue had replayed the correct time axis twice before this. She had already grasped the feeling, so actually she could do it in an instant. Ch 502

They're trying to show a replay of the past using Time Magic, a power that let them manipulate time directly. The reason it's different is because they have just synchronized that universe with Earth(universe) wich clearly affected its time axis.
Does this mean that the Earth(universe) time is governing that universe space-time ?

Yue figuring out the location of another universe

‘It’s pointless no matter where you hide. After all I already remember your face and also this world’s coordinate. Eh? Eh?’, with a yakuza face that seemed to say that, Yue-sama crouched beside the star tree Lutria and glared at her. Ch 343

Other feats using Time magic:
These happened before they connected the realms

• Future Sight:Shea's special magic ability that let her see what future outcomes would result of certain choices. However, it consumes a great deal of mana, enough to usually leave her exhausted after use it at the begining of the story, later she could use it several times.
  • Automatic Activation: - An ability that automatically whenever Shea is in danger. Whether or not this danger is a direct threat to her, or something that would indirectly harm her doesn’t matter. This takes up a great deal of mana too, but not nearly as much as activating it voluntarily does.
  • Branching Paths: Future Sight's derivative skill, allowing the user to see possible futures based from the many choices on the current situation. The user is able to see the result of their choices and make the best decision based on that.
  • Prophetic Vision: An ability which allows her to see up to 2 seconds into the future. Though it is a downgraded version of her Future Sight, it can be used with little magic power, so she could conveniently use it in rapid succession.
  • Hypothesis Sight: The derivation of her native magic Future Sight, using Hypothesis Sight, Shea is able to know the result of a question she asks such as what would happen if she attack someone, and also know exactly where that person will strike.

「Lily-san, let’s detach your thinking from work for a bit. Rather, it feels like I can see the future of Lily-san dying from getting overworked. Also, this won’t have the precision of “hypothesized future” or “oracle sight”. It’ll be something hazy somehow like, ‘this kind of future might be possible?’.」

It seemed the accuracy would be hit or miss at best. But, being able to see a scene that showed a possibility of the future was something unique of Shia.

Like that Shia said 「Then here I go」 and heightened her focus while inhaling a deep breath ‘suuu~~’……

「UOOOOOOOOOOOOOHDESUUUUUUUUU!!!」

「Somehow it’s different from my imagination!!」

A divination so unexpected it even made Hajime’s eyes widened started.

A fierce scream and bluish white magic power surged from Shia. Her form that was slightly leaning forward with her arms rounded and strained was just like the “Most Muscular” posing of body builder!

On top of that, “something behind” like Yue’s “lightning dragon” and Kaori’s “Hannya” was faintly……

It was like something from a different time axis, like a muscular rabbit that displayed her true nature in common daily lifeArifureta Nichijou……

Bursting! Bursting! It’s formed to the supreme level! The muscles are rejoicing!

That muscle motion that was just very lively, the intensity that was like a supreme ruler, it made everyone there to open their eyes wide like saucer!

「NUOOOOOOOOOOH!! ――I can see-, I can see it! The future-!! ……………………ah, desuu!」Ch 359

Shia was able to see the future of someone who was on another universe.

• Time Manipulation, Restoration and Retrocognition (Restoration magic allows her to interfere with time. Using this she can reopen wounds that occurred in the past,[11] and also peer into the past[12])

Right after they said that, a horse approached using “Godspeed” that was Kaori’s favorite trick. The knight riding the horse bisected the Cross Velt that was clad in “Vajra” while rushing toward Hajime.

「Chih」

Hajime clicked his tongue. Using super precise sniping through quick draw, he diverted the trajectory of the knight’s sword while twisting his body to dodge.

But, because Hajime used the minimum movement to dodge, when they passed each other the knight’s foot slightly touched Hajime’s shoulder.

In that instant,

「–!?」

「Hajime-san!?」

Blood burst out from Hajime’s body.

Shia swung around a huge metal ball to mow down the surrounding while leaping toward Hajime.

「Are you alright!?」

「No problem! But, it’s troublesome.」

Hajime’s mouth caught the recovery medicine he took out from empty air, bit off the ampoule and drank. His wounds vanished right away, but the places of the wound were problematic. A lot of the wounds were in familiar places.

「Wound’s……playback?」

「Yeah, it was only for an instant so the playback didn’t really go far, but it would be dangerous if all the wounds got rewound.」Ch 345

They were in Hell(universe) and this demon used Time magic to replay an event that happened on another universe(Tortus).

 

[Digital_Franz]

1)Are the elements smurf hax ?

Most likely, yeah. I guess a 4-D thing holds up a bit.

2)What is the dimensionality of the gap and what do you get for shaking/weakening it ?

I already answered this question. It is an insignificant 5-D or to put it simply, a 5-D that is not Low 1-C. Significantly affecting this currently will not do anything and will be considered HAX (that's how the wiki treats it so I'm not making this up).

2 temporal axis ?


They're trying to show a replay of the past using Time Magic, a power that let them manipulate time directly. The reason it's different is because they have just synchronized that universe with Earth(universe) wich clearly affected its time axis.
Does this mean that the Earth(universe) time is governing that universe space-time ?

No. The difficulty was just being on one time axis and affecting another time axis completely independent of theirs.

Yue figuring out the location of another universe



Other feats using Time magic:
These happened before they connected the realms


Shia was able to see the future of someone who was on another universe.


They were in Hell(universe) and this demon used Time magic to replay an event that happened on another universe(Tortus).

It doesn't add much. As I said above, it is possible to be in one universe and connect to the time axis of another universe.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

No. The difficulty was just being on one time axis and affecting another time axis completely independent of theirs.

Lutria's world time and Earth time, that's two temporal axis in a single universe.

That universe is governed by Earth(universe) time while having it's own time. It's seem like the realms could have multiple time axis. It was stated that all the realms were sharing a single time until they were separated.

It doesn't add much. As I said above, it is possible to be in one universe and connect to the time axis of another universe.

How ?

Earth and Tortus or Hell and Tortus are not close to each other or connected temprally.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Lutria's world time and Earth time, that's two temporal axis in a single universe.

Uh, they're two different universes, right? Even though one contains the other, both can share the same time axis so there's no indication of two axes here.

That universe is governed by Earth(universe) time while having it's own time.

What makes you think that?

It's seem like the realms could have multiple time axis. It was stated that all the realms were sharing a single time until they were separated.

Sharing the same time does not mean that it has multiple time axes.

How ?

Earth and Tortus or Hell and Tortus are not close to each other or connected temprally.

How so? Like that. We have interdimensional ranges in fiction that are self-explanatory. A power just targets the time axis of another dimension and manipulates it, simple as that.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Uh, they're two different universes, right? Even though one contains the other, both can share the same time axis so there's no indication of two axes here.

What makes you think that?

Sharing the same time does not mean that it has multiple time axes.

I've read the chapters

Lutria's world temporal axis is still there, he just connected that universe to Earth and made it governed by it's time.

Lutria's world=4D + Earth temporal axis.

It was difficult for Kaori because she couldn't defferentiate between them, something that wouldn't happen if there was one temporal axis.

Firstly she has to find the right time axis then find that moment to replay.

BTW, what Hajime did was a temporary solution by force until he revive the goddesses of each realm and they will use their power to connect the realms naturaly and synchronize them.

We already know portals connect the realms, what the World Door does is different. Even the goddess was surprised by that.

How so? Like that. We have interdimensional ranges in fiction that are self-explanatory. A power just targets the time axis of another dimension and manipulates it, simple as that.

Another Universe, but ok

 

[Digital_Franz]

I've read the chapters

Lutria's world temporal axis is still there, he just connected that universe to Earth and made it governed by it's time.

You did say that he connected this universe to his own. So it's a connection between the two time axes, not an added axis or dimensional jump.

Lutria's world=4D + Earth temporal axis.

No.

It was difficult for Kaori because she couldn't defferentiate between them, something that wouldn't happen if there was one temporal axis.

Yeah because she wants to manipulate a time axis without "being there" and being in another.

Firstly she has to find the right time axis then find that moment to replay.

BTW, what Hajime did was a temporary solution by force until he revive the goddesses of each realm and they will use their power to connect the realms naturaly and synchronize them.

You said connect. Here it is a connection between the time axes and a synchronization. There is no addition of time dimension here.

We already know portals connect the realms, what the World Door does is different. Even the goddess was surprised by that.

It doesn't add much.

Another Universe, but ok

A universe is a dimension too.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I already answered this question. It is an insignificant 5-D or to put it simply, a 5-D that is not Low 1-C. Significantly affecting this currently will not do anything and will be considered HAX (that's how the wiki treats it so I'm not making this up).

About it's size

As you know the compass increase its range according to how much energy you put(city->planet->universe...). But when he was measuring the interval he still didn't know that the other realms were universes meaning that the interval is bigger in size or at last significant with those realms.

Even after he had infinite energy he still couldn't find anything outside the nine realms which mean that either the space is infinite or the branch is higher than the compass.

 

[Digital_Franz]

About it's size

As you know the compass increase its range according to how much energy you put(city->planet->universe...). But when he was measuring the interval he still didn't know that the other realms were universes meaning that the interval is bigger in size or at last significant with those realms.

Even after he had infinite energy he still couldn't find anything outside the nine realms which mean that either the space is infinite or the branch is higher than the compass.

Even though space is infinite, being insignificant 5-D doesn't add anything. In Tier 2 the dimensions are already infinite so, uh...

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

You did say that he connected this universe to his own. So it's a connection between the two time axes, not an added axis or dimensional jump.

Connect and synchronize

No, what he did was a forced method.

He created the World Door, a door that connect the realms and can make them follow any time axis of his choosing. Even when the worlds are not connected they still follow the Earth time while having their own time axis.

It doesn't add much.

The difference is that even when the door is closed(no portal) the realms still follow Earth time.

A universe is a dimension too.

Ok

Even though space is infinite, being insignificant 5-D doesn't add anything. In Tier 2 the dimensions are already infinite so, uh...

So even if the space that exist outside(infinite) the realms and exist between(finite) them is infinite, it's still not significant 5D ?

 

[Digital_Franz]

Connect and synchronize

No, what he did was a forced method.

Don't add anything.

He created the World Door, a door that connect the realms and can make them follow any time axis of his choosing. Even when the worlds are not connected they still follow the Earth time while having their own time axis.

It doesn't change much of what I'm saying. Following the same time as the earth's doesn't mean that the earth's is a second axis or anything but that they're all going in the same "direction".

The difference is that even when the door is closed(no portal) the realms still follow Earth time.

Yeah that doesn't mean anything dimensionally.

So even if the space that exist outside(infinite) the realms and exist between(finite) them is infinite, it's still not significant 5D ?

Yes. And the destruction of the branch will result in an AP equivalent to the number of space-time continuum destroyed, that is to say from 2-C to 2-A.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

It doesn't change much of what I'm saying. Following the same time as the earth's doesn't mean that the earth's is a second axis or anything but that they're all going in the same "direction".

It's literally what it says here

「……The accurate time axis has to be searched through the different time axis of that time, so it’s too hard for Kaori. Impossible. You’ll fail anyway. That’s why don’t force yourself. Because I’ll do it.」

「Those are one and even two words too many! If you’re picking a fight then I’ll take it up you know!?」

Should it be called “empty state of mind provocation (limited to Kaori)” already?

Kaori was about to jump Yue but Shizuku held her back from behind with an exasperated face. Meanwhile Yue purposefully made a sound 「Muuu~n」. She was really making a show that she was focusing to knead her magic power and searching for the time axis.

Of course, Yue had replayed the correct time axis twice before this. She had already grasped the feeling, so actually she could do it in an instant. Ch 502

There are two different time axis, the original and the new(Earth's) and they're separate otherwise she could just look at the past and replay that moment instead now she has to the correct axis(original) first.

Like I said Lutria's world=4D+Earth's time

Yeah that doesn't mean anything dimensionally.

It need a portal otherwise no connection.

Yes. And the destruction of the branch will result in an AP equivalent to the number of space-time continuum destroyed, that is to say from 2-C to 2-A.

We know almost nothing anout the branch except that thing is supperior and the great trees are just the physical manifestation of it. It could even be higher than the concepts of the world within.

How is destroying something that envelop infinite space that surpass the universes within in size while being inaccessible to characters who could manipulate the universe space-time and the interval.

 

[Digital_Franz]

It's literally what it says here

There are two different time axis, the original and the new(Earth's) and they're separate otherwise she could just look at the past and replay that moment instead now she has to the correct axis(original) first.

But literally there is the axis of the earth and that of Lutria which makes two axes not that a universe has two axes, no. These two axes are different and belong to different universes, they have just been connected and the task is therefore to know to which axis each event belongs.

Like I said Lutria's world=4D+Earth's time

No.

It need a portal otherwise no connection.

Yeah and?

We know almost nothing anout the branch except that thing is supperior and the great trees are just the physical manifestation of it. It could even be higher than the concepts of the world within.

How is destroying something that envelop infinite space that surpass the universes within in size while being inaccessible to characters who could manipulate the universe space-time and the interval.

??

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

But literally there is the axis of the earth and that of Lutria which makes two axes not that a universe has two axes, no. These two axes are different and belong to different universes, they have just been connected and the task is therefore to know to which axis each event belongs.

「Before that I want to check. How much time has passed since the last time I called?」

『Eh? Your last call……it was when the Dragon Tree was revived right?』

「Right.」

『Then──it was around three months ago right?』

「……」

Hajime closed his eyes. The crease on his forehead deepened.

It wasn’t as bad as the machine world. But, time difference was also forming in the sky dragon world.

『Nothing really happened over here, and it also doesn’t look like there’s any bad influence from the Dragon Tree’s revival. That’s my report. This looks like good timing, so I planned to go to the hell world next right after you guys came here for your trip……』

「I see, got it. Amanogawa, is the Fairy Ring set up at the Dragon Tree’s root just as planned?」

『Yeah, of course.』

「Activate it right away. Then connect to earth with your key and then keep maintain the connection.」

『Eh? No, wait. Just how much magic power that will take──』

「There’s the spare magic power tank right? You can use all of it. That’s fine as long as we can buy time with that. Also I’m going to send the time interference artifact to you after this. Activate that too. I’ll go over there as quickly as possible to modify the “World Door” mechanism.」Ch 505

World door≠normal portals


And for the last time, he didn't connect them temporally all the realms are set to follow Earth's time while still having their own axis.

All the realms except Earth will have two time axis, their own and Earth. The connection is caused by creating portals while what he created force the Earth time on the other realms without needng to connect them.

Earth's time>the rest of the realms(space-time)


DK if this add anything, but the pocket dimensions like the holy sanctuary and the Miniature Garden are following the time of the universes in which they exist while still being a limited space-time of their own.

 

[Digital_Franz]

World door≠normal portals

Yeah sure.

And for the last time, he didn't connect them temporally all the realms are set to follow Earth's time while still having their own axis.

And for the last time, it's not because it follows the time of the earth that it will make two time axes. You don't really understand the implication of having two time axes. It's not following another time, quite the contrary it's something deeper.

All the realms except Earth will have two time axis, their own and Earth. The connection is caused by creating portals while what he created force the Earth time on the other realms without needng to connect them.

I said no. Well let's show you how lame your logic is. According to your logic the other dimensions are 5-D while the earth is 4-D. It doesn't make much sense. I'm not going to discuss it further since you're just going to be stubborn anyway, just put this in a CRT to see it get rejected.

Earth's time>the rest of the realms(space-time)

What you want to use absolutely does not mean that. Anyway, I'll pass.

DK if this add anything, but the pocket dimensions like the holy sanctuary and the Miniature Garden are following the time of the universes in which they exist while still being a limited space-time of their own.

It doesn't add anything.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

And for the last time, it's not because it follows the time of the earth that it will make two time axes. You don't really understand the implication of having two time axes. It's not following another time, quite the contrary it's something deeper.

What do you mean by that ?

I said no. Well let's show you how lame your logic is. According to your logic the other dimensions are 5-D while the earth is 4-D. It doesn't make much sense. I'm not going to discuss it further since you're just going to be stubborn anyway, just put this in a CRT to see it get rejected.

Why ?

I forgot about this

After that, Hajime and Shia rose to the sky while snuggling close to each other. Hajime took out a magic crystal stone from his treasure warehouse.

「Now then, the gate can be opened for around ten minutes. We’ve got to ask Yue and Kaori to reform the world during that time.」

「Reforming the world in ten minutes. Those are really amazing words.」Ch 343

「There is no time. We’re going to finish it before the gate closed. First Kaori, heal all those guys along with this island.」

「Leave it to me!」

Her wings flapped once. Silver magic power dyed the world. Ripples that contained gentleness somewhere within passed through the island several times.

「Oo, this is」

『How, even our strength』

Each time the power of the goddess at the far away who closely resembled the first generation sky king was spreading, the celestial people were healed as though they were liberated from the nightmare. They began to harbor a feeling that was close to worship along with feeling moved.

At the same time, the desolated island was recovering its original nature. The divine spirits that were turned into slime also recovered their former human form.

The star tree also wasn’t an exception. The exhaustion before this was like a lie and she turned into her human avatar once more.Ch 343

(This is using portals)
Kaori was able to manipulate time normaly and reverse it without any indication of another time axis, she only had this problem after Hajime used the World door.


1)Are the realms connected ?
No

2)Are they following a single time ?
Yes, Earth's time

3)Do they still have their temporal axis ?
Yes, plus Earth's

4)Are those axis separated and different from each other ?
Yes

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Ok, what about settling with possible until we get more details about it ?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Mana affecting space-time ?

They watched as a massive pillar of silver light rose up to the sky. It spiraled away into the heavens, and blew away the dust cloud surrounding her. The night sky blazed with its light.

“The ability to manipulate gravity... So that is your special,no, your ancient magic. I remember you. You escaped from me once before.” The sky quaked. The earth trembled. The very heavens cowered in the face of her might. The woman unleashed a wave of pressure so potent it was palpable. Oscar found he could hardly breathe. If his focused slipped even a little, the woman’s aura alone would knock him unconscious. Zero Vol 1 p304

“Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!”

With a roar that seemed to rip through the very fabric of reality, a massive dragon with scales black as the night flew out of the storm, clad in a nimbus of fire and lightning. It was long and serpentine, like an Oriental dragon instead of a more traditional Western one. In fact, it looked more like the Leviathan that Hajime and the others had fought earlier than any dragon on Tortus. However, it was twice as large as the Leviathan had been. Moreover, it was a thousand times more imposing. Vol 12 p268

When the reality of what had happened finally sank in, Freid screamed, “Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!”

He didn’t even care that his millions of monsters were being wiped out at an unbelievable rate. Instead, he beat his pure-white wings and rose high into the sky. In that moment, he was so enraged that he didn’t even care about Ehit’s orders or what his faith demanded of him. And so, he unleashed the strongest disintegration beam he could at Tio while firing off as many spatial blasts as possible, not even caring if the excess burden fried his brain.

“Fool,” Tio said, though there was no contempt in her voice. It sounded rather cold, but there was a hint of pity in it. She then let out a roar, dispersing all of Freid’s attacks. Vol 12 p271

And this attack that open up a hole and send people to the interval

――Fall, to the interval of the worlds

The moment that sentence resounded, the space behind Shia twisted crazily.

「Wha-, this is-」

Shia immediately attempted to retreat from that place, but she was pulled in by a tremendous power and she stumbled midair.

When she looked across her shoulder, over there the twisted space and whirling darkness were……

「Don’t tell me, a gravitational field!?」

A power greatly resembling that which frequently used by the vampire princess she was so close it caught Shia and wouldn’t let go.

She desperately stood her ground using the foothold of the “Air Force”, but the twisted space and whirling darkness expanded in proportion of her effort. It was trying to envelop Shia in spherical shape. Ch 337

was destroyed by his mana

「──”Limit Break”」

The crimson magic power exploded. Forgot about the atmosphere, the very space itself felt like it would be blown to smithereens from the shockwave that detonated around Hajime and Shia. That phenomenon that looked like a red moon instantly scattered away the twisting space and gravitational field.

The crimson shock wave blew away all the dumbfounded people. They were tossed around like a cloth flapping inside a bomb blast. Arogan, Gruelle, and Louis laid out their barrier with amazing reaction speed in order to protect their respective comrades and lords who were relatively near, but they were blown away along with their barrier.

The use of the “Limit Break” was only for an instant. Be that as it may, everyone there felt it. Everyone comprehended it. Ch 338

It's important to note that Shia was able to resist gravity and space here and here, but still had a problem with this.


Mist disrupting dimensional travel

“It’s strange... I can sense mana from everything around us, both the fog and the water.”

“Hajime-san, I think we’ll be okay! I’m not seeing any future where we die, at least!”

Hajime shot Yue a glance. Though he said nothing, it was a trivial task for her to read his thoughts, and she quickly created a teleportation portal to let everyone escape. But before she could send anyone through—

“Daddy! He’s calling for us! He wants us to save him!”

“Wh-What?”

Unfortunately, there wasn’t enough time to process that or ask Myu what she meant. Owooooooooooooooooooooo!The creature let out a howl. It wasn’t a threatening sound, though. In fact, it almost sounded melodic. A second later, Hajime and the others were surrounded by light, and their consciousness began to fade.

“Shi—” Yue shouted, panicking. The portal she’d created scattered to the four winds. SS Volume p215

Inside the heavenly star barrier which is another dimension with different timeflow.

After he got left alone in the middle of torii corridor, he kept walking for half a day through the long corridor that was clearly far longer than in reality no matter how he looked at it.

The stone paving and red torii’s were extending endlessly without any change in scenery. It felt like he was not making any progress at all. The outside of the corridor was covered in mist, and even when he threw caution to the wind and tried charging daringly into the mist, he only ended up at his original spot.

He also tried using the Gate artifact, but although it activated, the light membrane had noises running through it or wavering, or dispersing from the edge. It looked dodgy and didn’t seem usable. Ch 404

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

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