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Anos vs Something Evil
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Range doesn't help. Plenty of Ascendant Hive have the necessary range to reach each other's Throne Worlds. The Throne Worlds are simply protected by their Sword Logic.
This is the first time I've seen 99*countless being brought up. What's the countless part based on and why has that never been brought up before on top strongest threads?
The Daughter's 2-B hax upscales from the Ascendant Plane, which is where the Sea of Scream with numberless spaces in it is. Spaces like those Throne Worlds.
Anyway the Deathsingers start with their Death Songs (and BFR and Powernull, but those aren't as interesting), which would definitely kill Anos. This arguably would be permanent, but for now let's assume Anos can come back. Due to the Sword Logic the Daughters are now > Anos in well everything, meaning that if Anos could even do anything to them at first, he wouldn't be able to now.
This is the first time I've seen 99*countless being brought up. What's the countless part based on and why has that never been brought up before on top strongest threads?
The Daughter's 2-B hax upscales from the Ascendant Plane, which is where the Sea of Scream with numberless spaces in it is. Spaces like those Throne Worlds.
Anyway the Deathsingers start with their Death Songs (and BFR and Powernull, but those aren't as interesting), which would definitely kill Anos. This arguably would be permanent, but for now let's assume Anos can come back. Due to the Sword Logic the Daughters are now > Anos in well everything, meaning that if Anos could even do anything to them at first, he wouldn't be able to now.
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Silver Sea
the 99*countless is a thing that I always saw it being brought up
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It seems that you do not read well, as it has always been brought up.... Silver Sea 99+ layers, each layer has Countless universes, with each layer being almost infinitely superior to the previous one.
The point is that Deathsingers will not be able to kill Anos because he will not die until his source is destroyed, which Deathsingers cannot destroy because of NEP2. BFR will not work as Anos has more range and can return, Powernull Anos resist.
Definitely the 2-B cosmology of Maou Gakuin is superior to that of Destiny, which indicates that Anos has AP advantage here and therefore more range so it will not be a problem for Anos to pass his Type 9 Immortality.
Range matters if you want to bypass Type 9, which it seems Anos has more range and AP than Deathsingers.
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Yes I know, but we have to give a base point, that's why mostly 99* Countless is used, as the Author said, there is a lot more of the Silver Sea out there.
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That wasnt his point though
The daughters killing him once would give them resistance to all of Anos' abilities via funny Sword Logic and resistance negation over them
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Can they even kill Anos?
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He doesnt resist concept manip type 2, so yeah
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I asked what the countless was based on, not the silver sea hierarchy, since that's not accepted.
So he went from activating NEP at the start of battle to already having it? Where does his source being always being NEP2 come from? Since that seems to be controversial.
Either way it doesn't matter because that's only relevant to the Daughters permanently killing him. If they destroy him to the point that he needs to use his revival stuff from his source, that would count as a kill.
Actually how good is Anos' powernull resistance?
I literally explained why range does not matter...
Anos only has a higher 2-B output, according to you, with the sword. Which is not his starting move.
So: Daughters kill Anos (permanently or not) > Anos comes back (if not permanent) > Anos finds Daughters are now immune to his everything and outclass him in everything.
So he went from activating NEP at the start of battle to already having it? Where does his source being always being NEP2 come from? Since that seems to be controversial.
Either way it doesn't matter because that's only relevant to the Daughters permanently killing him. If they destroy him to the point that he needs to use his revival stuff from his source, that would count as a kill.
Actually how good is Anos' powernull resistance?
I literally explained why range does not matter...
Anos only has a higher 2-B output, according to you, with the sword. Which is not his starting move.
So: Daughters kill Anos (permanently or not) > Anos comes back (if not permanent) > Anos finds Daughters are now immune to his everything and outclass him in everything.
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Their singing is more than enough when he regens this time everything he has gets nullified via res negation they gained when they kill him
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What? I literally explained and yeah, it is accepted, each layer of silver sea has countless universes, and the higher layers see the lowers as piece of shogi, and yeah it is accepted, what are u talking about?
His source is fused with graham nature, that was erased by Venuzdonoa and Arnos absorbed it to his source
Can the daughters affect his source? If not, he wont be perm killed
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Stop here boy, Mg 99* Countless terminology is already accepted.
His source is fused with Graham's source, his source is Nothingness from the moment they fused, the "Activation" is an invention that was born here due to MTL error, Anos uses Nothingness to defend himself from any attack or to attack.
The point is that they will not be able to kill him, because destroying his physical body means nothing to him unless you destroy his source.
At least pretty high, he is able to resist nullification of the Inhabitants of deeper layers, and use all his powers in areas and against techniques that nullify all magic.
As I said before, destroying his physical body is nothing if he is not able to affect the source, since he does not "die" until his source (concept) is destroyed.
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And he can come back even if his source is destroyed
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I mean, sword logic does not care about that. In the moment he uses his regeneration or creates a new body it will already count as a kill for the daughters.
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Can't he just adapt to it with his RE?
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Adapt to what? Nothing is affecting him, its the daughters who are getting a boost via sword logic killing
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Isnt the Sword Logic that its doing it?
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The Sword Logic is boosting the daughters
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Where does it specify that, because I'm reading the "Sword Logic", and the only thing it says is that it takes the power of those it "kills", it doesn't specify anything if the user simply creates another body, since technically speaking you are not killing Anos just by destroying his physical body.
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So, Venuzdonoa can cut logic, does it works as a counter to Sword Logic
? And why is affecting Anos physical body counts as kill?
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Oryx's fight against his sisters. Basically they abused the sword logic system due to being immortal (kept killing each other and reviving until they gained immense power)
Aka, even if you are immortal and gets killed (even temporarily) it counts as a kill and thus boosts the winner.
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Logically, Anos physical body is only a vessel for its source.
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The point is that relatively Oryx killed them.... But in this case, the Deathsingers are not killing Anos.
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What? Oryx killed them and they revived. Oryx still got boosted by SL.
It would be the same case here if the Daughters kills Anos once to the point that he needs to revive.
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The source actually is what Arnos is
''In the first place, magic power is born from the source in our bodies. To put it simply, from our soul or spirit, but the source lies even deeper It's what makes us who we are''
So, the body is just like a vessel or whatever, the source itself is the person, and the daughters cannot kill Arnos, as Arnos existence is the source, which is NEP 2
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But they died, according to the description, the SL needs the enemy to die in order to boost his user, Anos is not dying here so no.
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Like I said before, the Sword Logic is biased and will count as a kill if Anos' body is destroyed. Guardians cant die so long their Light exists, yet the sword logic is still in effect.
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They died and came back*, and Oryx still got boosted
If Anos dies and comes back, the daughters would still get boosted by SL
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But the Guardians are not the light unless u prove it. but Arnos is the source, as the source is what they are, the body is just like a vessel that its around the source
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Anos does not die because his physical body is destroyed, that's the point, Anos is not dying here.
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The daughters are fighting Anos (physical body), the source is not fighting, the Sword Logic thus will boost the daughters if they destroy the physical body once.
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"Die" in the sense of being physically destroyed even once
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The body is just a vessel, u can think it as a armor, the armor is not what makes someone the person, destroying the armor will not make the person die, so, Arnos wont be killed if his body is destroyed
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He wont die, killing the armor wont kill the person
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He doesnt need to die permanently, is my point.
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Ha! So you mean his source (Anos himself) is not fighting, of course, he can use source to attack and defend himself, just as no matter if his physical body is destroyed he will not die until his source is destroyed.
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i never said die permanently, I said ''die'', the body is a vessel, the source is what Arnos is, ''die'' only applies when we talk about the source
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