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Android 16 fights... Goku? (Android 16 vs Turles) [0-0-0]

TegamiBachi25

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Aka. What if the Tree of Might took place during the Android Saga

Let's say around the Android Saga, Turles arrives on Earth when the androids are on the hunt for goku, the Saiyan Pirate hearing that supposedly Kakarot defeated Frieza by becoming a Super Saiyan, desiring to test the fabled myth of "legend" and to absorb the planet enough so that he would defeat goku. Turles, after planting the tree, orders his crusher corps goes to plant more of the seeds while he immediately devours a fruit in waiting, comes across the Androids. Asking if he was goku since he looked like him, Turles affirms to them saying he has no clue who this "goku" was and he was not goku, knowing they were referring to Kakarot, invites the androids to attack him, thinking they'll be good warmup until Kakarot arrives.

16, sensing the power in the Saiyan and the planet being drained by the tree of might, realizes the danger of this Goku lookalike to both the planet and its people, orders 17 and 18 to get away. He would take this Goku copycat himself.

Android 16 vs Turles after eating the fruit from the tree of might. Speed is equalized and fight takes place on Earth.

Android 16 scales to 5929 Quettatons while Turles scales to 8430 Quettatons after eating the fruit. Turles has the AP advantage of 1.45x

Birds birds birds birds:

Goku Black 2.0

Incon:
 
Also, Gero said he saw the fight up until Goku's match with Vegeta during Saiyan Saga, so 16 likely knows about the power ball and he obviously won't let turles become a great ape. Even if Turles stalls for time to try and transform into a great ape with earth's actual moon, 16 could just blow up the moon via piccolo style and he wouldn't let him get to that point either
 
16 has a big skill advantage though I'm not sure how far that can get him considering how Turles has a near 1.5x AP advantage and has limited damage reduction thanks to his armour
 
Turles has an AP advantage, but Android 16 has infinite stamina going for him as well as a skill advantage. 16 could definitely fight defensively to exhaust Turles until 16 can overpower him, like how Android 18 defeated Vegeta
 
16 could also blow himself up to kill turles but that might end in incon, and turles has Class P LS vs 16's Unknown (lol) so he might just get out of what 16 would try to do
 
16 could also blow himself up to kill turles but that might end in incon, and turles has Class P LS vs 16's Unknown (lol) so he might just get out of what 16 would try to do
I don't think the LS would matter this much since 16 is too big for Turles to hold in a traditional way and would otherwise get blaster by 16's hand cannons
 
I don’t really see how 16 has a huge skill advantage here. Goku didn’t exactly showcase any new notable skill feats between the Saiyan and Cell Sagas, so there's not much to suggest 16 would outclass Turles in that department.

I'd also argue that Turles has a bigger AP advantage than what the calcs suggest;
He saw Great Ape ToM Gohan (Who in base already had a PL of 10,000, already above Saiyan Saga Goku) as no threat at all and would've killed him had he landed his Kill Driver. And despite the fact that ToM Goku was stronger than Turles, the boosted Turles still wrecked him easily, even knocking him out of Kaioken x10 with just one strike.
16 does also upscale from his value, since he was equal to Cell, who shrugged off Piccolo’s Light Grenade, but I still think Turles has the edge.
TL;DR: Tree of Might Boost Turles >> Kaioken x10 Goku (x10)> ToM Goku > Turles >> Great Ape Gohan (x10)> ToM Gohan > Saiyan Saga Goku (84.3 Quettatons)

Even if 16 somehow manages to stall Turles and get the upper hand, he’ll just bail and grab another Fruit from the Tree of Might to power himself up even more.
 
I don’t really see how 16 has a huge skill advantage here. Goku didn’t exactly showcase any new notable skill feats between the Saiyan and Cell Sagas, so there's not much to suggest 16 would outclass Turles in that department.

I'd also argue that Turles has a bigger AP advantage than what the calcs suggest;
He saw Great Ape ToM Gohan (Who in base already had a PL of 10,000, already above Saiyan Saga Goku) as no threat at all and would've killed him had he landed his Kill Driver. And despite the fact that ToM Goku was stronger than Turles, the boosted Turles still wrecked him easily, even knocking him out of Kaioken x10 with just one strike.
16 does also upscale from his value, since he was equal to Cell, who shrugged off Piccolo’s Light Grenade, but I still think Turles has the edge.
TL;DR: Tree of Might Boost Turles >> Kaioken x10 Goku (x10)> ToM Goku > Turles >> Great Ape Gohan (x10)> ToM Gohan > Saiyan Saga Goku (84.3 Quettatons)

Even if 16 somehow manages to stall Turles and get the upper hand, he’ll just bail and grab another Fruit from the Tree of Might to power himself up even more.
That's using the manga's scaling chain, Turles' profile says he's at approximately 8430 Quettatons so that's what is used. Unless there's a revision for it or something I don't see why it wouldn't be used for it (I am not familiar with the Toei scaling chain)
 
That's using the manga's scaling chain, Turles' profile says he's at approximately 8430 Quettatons so that's what is used. Unless there's a revision for it or something I don't see why it wouldn't be used for it (I am not familiar with the Toei scaling chain)
Huh? the 84.3 Quettatons is from the Toei scaling chain? Also, he IS approximately 8430 Quettatons, he just upscales a bunch over it.
 
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