An update on the definition of a tier 0

[Aurasuke]

It has been brought to my attention that tier 0 have a misconception of being omnipotent with respect to all fictions. However since the definition of Tier 0 is not Truly omnipotent but being extremely powerful compared to the rest of their fiction and shows no limitations (but still not omnipotent because it's impossible to prove)

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/194895

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/195216

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/194960

Thus a conclusion was reached that a character Tier 1-High A from one fiction may not always lose to a Tier 0 character from another series.

I was thinking that in order to clarify this misunderstanding, within the tier 0

The definition of a tier 0 be changed from

Beings that are boundlessly above absolutely everything, including existence and nonexistence, all duality, transduality, life, death, possibility, causality, and even beyond dimensional 1-A characters.

to

Beings that are boundlessly above absolutely everything, including existence and nonexistence, all duality, transduality, life, death, possibility, causality, and even beyond dimensional 1-A characters within their respective fictions. It is impossible to determine whether or not this being is beyond other High 1-A characters from other fictions.

I suppose the reason I thought this was important was to let everyone know that tier 0 isn't actually omnipotent but simply "shown to have no limits" within their series.

 

[Antvasima]

That would probably be confusing. The current definition is accurate. It is just that High 1-A characters may also fulfill those requirements with the exception that they have some form of limit above them that makes them less than boundless, such as Featherine being limited by the Creator, or Demonbane being limited by Azathoth, or Hajun having a weakness, or the Law Of Identity having a tiny limitation (I don't recall which at the moment though).

 

[Aurasuke]

I can see why it may confuse some people who aren't familiar with the tier system within vs battles. Perhaps we could have a details link within the page that describe how tier 0 characters compare to tier high 1-A characters for anyone who wants to a vs battle thread?

 

[Antvasima]

It is of low priority for the moment. We are in the middle of a massive content revision.

 

[Mysterymist_the_omnipotent_interplanetary_idiot]

just a silly question maybe but can a high 1a tier be killed?the wiki defines it to be not have a serious weakness

 

[Antvasima]

Only by a tier 0, or possibly another High 1-A.