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Alicorns Solar System Level?

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So, currently the Alicorns in My Little Pony are considered to be Solar System level because they have the power to move the sun.


I have to ask though, how is merely MOVING the sun equivalent to the energy recquired to not only destroy the sun, but the rest of the solar system as well? That seems a huge leap, and I think the Alicorns are more likely to be Star level.
 
It's how the feat got so high. The energy required to move something with that mass at those speeds far outstrips that of just destroying it.
 
Moving something recquires more energy than destroying it?

How on Earth does that make ANY sense? I can pick up a brick, that doesn't mean I have the power to crush a brick in my bare hands.
 
"Moving something recquires more energy than destroying it?"

Dude, this is basic physics.
 
Because you can't pick up a brick at enough speed to do generate that amount of energy. Throw that at the speed of a car and someone's brain is mush. Speaking of cars, KE is kinda why car crashes are dangerous.
 
Pretty much real life humans can't go that fast but characters in fiction can that's why KE feats are used as long as it isn't FTL
 
They were moving something that weighs far more than an entire planet at relativistic speeds, the kinetic energy that this generates is huge.
 
The Everlasting said:
"Moving something recquires more energy than destroying it?"
Dude, this is basic physics.
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Seemed illogical to me.

But I get the point about the speed, since you're moving it through space.
 
That has me curious though, what is the total power of the sun itself? I ask out of simple curiosity regarding a line from a fan work:

"The sun isn't merely something I move Twilight, I AM the sun."

I'm curious if that would make a difference to the AP of that version of Celestia, or would it be the same? Being able to wield the complete power of the sun, on top of moving it like normal.
 
Lunacorva said:
That has me curious though, what is the total power of the sun itself? I ask out of simple curiosity regarding a line from a fan work:

"The sun isn't merely something I move Twilight, I AM the sun."

I'm curious if that would make a difference to the AP of that version of Celestia, or would it be the same? Being able to wield the complete power of the sun, on top of moving it like normal.
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That version of Celestia in the fanfic could be as string as you want her to be. Her writer could make her High 1-A if he wants. Why? His fanfic, he decides their power.
 
Well it's a fan work man therefore not canon hell a fanfic has Celestia as a 52 dimensional being
 
Didn't Twilight survive getting tossed around by Tireks TK? Which is used to move the Sun? Guys I think I just found a legitimate feat of their physical strength being = their TK strength. I mean sure we have the JoTTS, but this THIS is an on panel showing.
 
Well that's more durability but yeah Twi survived getting thrown by something equal to her All Alicorn form
 
Js250476 said:
Well that's more durability but yeah Twi survived getting thrown by something equal to her All Alicorn form
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Yeah, but up till now there ain't much evidence but:

A. We know they use TK to lift the Sun.

B. Tirek is using TK to toss around Twilight. This means her durability is x 4.08 Kilofoe, we can assume Tirek's durability is the same.

C. Twilight forced Tirek to block both physically and magically with her beams. Which in turn makes her beams > 4.08 Kilofoes x 4.
 
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Will yeah I don't think anyone argued she's a glass canon or anything
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No I'm saying this is total on screen proof of their beams = their TK. Twilight survived TK. Twilight's beams were potent enough to force her equal to block them.
 
Lightbuster30 said:
Lunacorva said:
That has me curious though, what is the total power of the sun itself? I ask out of simple curiosity regarding a line from a fan work:

"The sun isn't merely something I move Twilight, I AM the sun."

I'm curious if that would make a difference to the AP of that version of Celestia, or would it be the same? Being able to wield the complete power of the sun, on top of moving it like normal.
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That version of Celestia in the fanfic could be as string as you want her to be. Her writer could make her High 1-A if he wants. Why? His fanfic, he decides their power.
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Yeah, but you could say that about any work of fiction. I'm trying to apply the rules of this site, using that earlier statement as a feat.
 
Well let me just give a detailed explanation of this.

To destroy the Sun, you need to overcome its Gravitational Binding energy.

When you move an object, that object carries kinetic energy, which is found by the formula of KE = 0.5*M*V^2, when KE is kinetic energy in joules, M is mass in kg, and V is speed in meters per second. Moving an object very quickly will oftentimes produce more than enough energy to destroy said object.

Because of this, many planet busts that occur very quickly will have far higher results. This planet bust happens so quickly that the results end up in High 5-A. This wasn't even a full planet bust and it still yielded 5-A results. Moving large amounts of matter at high speeds will yield incredibly high results. In the case of MLP's calc, it wasn't even using normal KE, it was using Relativistic Kinetic Energy. According to Einstein, all matter will require a higher and higher amount of energy as it approaches the speed of light. Matter cannot physically move faster than light, so any FTL matter moving instance in fiction must be thrown out. That said, this wasn't FTL, it was relativistic.

Moving an object as large as the Sun at relativistic speed requires an absolutely insane amount of energy, one that far surpasses what would be needed to break it apart and negate its GBE. Does this explain what is happening here?
 
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