Alexia Midgar vs Ai Hayasaka

[XxZetsuxX]

Alexia Midgnar VS Ai Hayasaka

Rules:

• Speed is unequalised
• Starting Distance: 10 meters
• Location: Abandoned House
• Ai has prior knowledge
• Alexia's AP: 15 KJ, higher with magic
• Ai's AP: 208 KJ

	Alexia's advantages: No diffs in skill Higher LS Higher Speed More experienced Better PP Stamina Higher BIQ More analytical Instinctive Action Sword Range	Second Princess of Midgar Kingdom - XxZetsuxX, Sooshirohl, MannyQ361, Zefra3011, Fezzih_007, TheHuntsman1001, DaReaperMan, Syncornize
	Hayasaka's advantages: One Shots Higher IQ Prior Knowledge Better Acrobatics Hearing Stealth Mastery Taser	Maid and bodyguard of the Shinomiya family -

Inconclusive - SatellaTheWoE

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I think the only thing we need to argue here would be the AP difference?

Alexia upscales her value by a no diff margin with magic + she has a sword which increases even more her AP, slashing dmg should apply here even if shallow?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

This is really unfair ngl

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

....Excuse me, Kaguya-Sama pages in vsbw???

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

....Excuse me, Kaguya-Sama pages in vsbw???

I was surprised too (Todd vs Ai soon, battle of the menaces)

 

[XxZetsuxX]

This is really unfair ngl

Why?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

....Excuse me, Kaguya-Sama pages in vsbw???

I found out while i was looking for a match for Alexia kek

 

[XxZetsuxX]

What is Hayasaka starting move?

 

[Sooshirohl]

What is Hayasaka starting move?

if she has to defend herself she'd likely just start off immediately by using her taser

so i guess just going off the stats this MU comes down to whether or not you think alexia can restrain hayasaka fast enough with her superior LS or whether or not hayasaka can react fast enough to just incap her with her taser. considering alexia's massive skill advantage, speed advantage and LS advantage though, i don't think she'd have any problems just wrestling the taser out of her hands before she can react and then proceeding to just hold her down with her ridiculous LS advantage.

this does seem heavily in alexia's favor, but i guess hayasaka does have the potential to win via a very quick and easy incap

 

[XxZetsuxX]

if she has to defend herself she'd likely just start off immediately by using her taser

I believe Alexia would be easily able to react, predict and other stuff

Thought, it might be hard for her if Hayasaka uses her acrobatics, i would assume?

so i guess just going off the stats this MU comes down to whether or not you think alexia can restrain hayasaka fast enough with her superior LS or whether or not hayasaka can react fast enough to just incap her with her taser. considering alexia's massive skill advantage, speed advantage and LS advantage though, i don't think she'd have any problems just wrestling the taser out of her hands before she can react and then proceeding to just hold her down with her ridiculous LS advantage.

She cannot incap Alexia via normal means, hence why i placed the match in a abandoned house which i assume Ai smart enough to use her enviroment to hide and prepare a sneak attack, though Alexia can predict sneak attacks too, but it's better than nothing i guess?

this does seem heavily in alexia's favor, but i guess hayasaka does have the potential to win via a very quick and easy incap

Is this a vote, or are you gonna hold on a bit more?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Also, if it makes things more fair, i could blood lust Ai? or is this good enough?

 

[Sooshirohl]

I believe Alexia would be easily able to react, predict and other stuff

Thought, it might be hard for her if Hayasaka uses her acrobatics, i would assume?

i guess. alexia does seem to have a slight speed advantage with her magic, but i don't think it's substantial enough to where hayasaka would get completely caught off guard, so acrobatics might help her land that blow

She cannot incap Alexia via normal means, hence why i placed the match in a abandoned house which i assume Ai smart enough to use her enviroment to hide and prepare a sneak attack, though Alexia can predict sneak attacks too, but it's better than nothing i guess?

is there a rule or something on her profile that says that? i'm a bit confused on what you mean by that. though yeah, if ai has prior knowledge of what she's capable of, she would probably be able to get an ambush attack ready.

Is this a vote, or are you gonna hold on a bit more?

i'll probably hold off a bit for now. might need to mull on it a bit more before i decide, but i do think a surprise attack gives hayasaka a notable advantage

Also, if it makes things more fair, i could blood lust Ai? or is this good enough?

i don't think bloodlusting hayasaka would really change much tbh, she's still probably just going to try and incap with her tazer. i guess if she was bloodlusted she'd just like, kill alexia after incapping her or something, but i don't think that's really necessary lol

 

[XxZetsuxX]

i guess. alexia does seem to have a slight speed advantage with her magic, but i don't think it's substantial enough to where hayasaka would get completely caught off guard, so acrobatics might help her land that blow

I will mention that she has a feat where she gets cheap shotted (but predicts) and immediately follows up with a weak point strike with minimal movements, here

is there a rule or something on her profile that says that? i'm a bit confused on what you mean by that. though yeah, if ai has prior knowledge of what she's capable of, she would probably be able to get an ambush attack ready.

Wdym, i meant like, she can run and get into hiding, use her knives to distract or something

If this is not what you mean, can you explain pls

i'll probably hold off a bit for now. might need to mull on it a bit more before i decide, but i do think a surprise attack gives hayasaka a notable advantage

Aight

i don't think bloodlusting hayasaka would really change much tbh, she's still probably just going to try and incap with her tazer. i guess if she was bloodlusted she'd just like, kill alexia after incapping her or something, but i don't think that's really necessary lol

 

[Sooshirohl]

Wdym, i meant like, she can run and get into hiding, use her knives to distract or something

oh, i was kinda under the assumption that hayasaka was already starting off hiding, my bad. but uhhh yeah, i guess she could do that.

if hayasaka can get into hiding to prepare an ambush i think her chances of winning are a lot stronger. but if alexia is aggressive and doesn't give her the opportunity to do that i would say she probably wins pretty comfortably. still not casting a vote yet, but that's kind of what i'm thinking at the moment

 

[XxZetsuxX]

oh, i was kinda under the assumption that hayasaka was already starting off hiding, my bad. but uhhh yeah, i guess she could do that.

if hayasaka can get into hiding to prepare an ambush i think her chances of winning are a lot stronger. but if alexia is aggressive and doesn't give her the opportunity to do that i would say she probably wins pretty comfortably. still not casting a vote yet, but that's kind of what i'm thinking at the moment

I wouldn't say Alexia is agressive, just that she does everything with a plan in mind behind her actions, to be fair, i don't personally think she will let her get away

But i do believe that MABYE Ai can do something to distract her

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

if ai has prior knowledge and a tazer i can see her instantly going to hide and prep a trap for alexia to succesfully incap her most of the time, anytime she fails Alexia would be able to counter and win. Hayasaka lies naturally as she breathes though and she barely ever fails

Based on that i am voting for Ai

 

[XxZetsuxX]

if ai has prior knowledge and a tazer i can see her instantly going to hide

Alexia is not letting her go that easily especially with speed advantage

and prep a trap for alexia to succesfully incap her most of the time

She needs to bypass her IA, reaction and ANPR first as she can predict sneak attacks

Also, we need to know what type of trap she will do, because she only has taser, knives and furniture of the house if she even uses these

I don't believe she is fast enough to prep a full elaborate trap when she loses in speed, it's gonna be hard for her to even leave her sight

, anytime she fails Alexia would be able to counter and win.

That's how i see things going yes

Hayasaka lies naturally as she breathes though and she barely ever fails

Alexia might fall for her words but it's not like it's gonna work if you think Ai is gonna hit her with a cheap shot because of what i said above, ANPR, IA and speed advantage also skill

Based on that i am voting for Ai

Isn't it to early to vote?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Alexia is not letting her go that easily especially with speed advantage

acrobatics should even this out

She needs to bypass her IA, reaction and ANPR first as she can predict sneak attacks

Ai is smart enough that she would probably lure her into a trap that is a step by step trap that could do stuff like distract her attention and then another trap to make her think it was a bluff and then drop the tazer

Also, we need to know what type of trap she will do, because she only has taser, knives and furniture of the house if she even uses these

this might be funny but she could probably change her appearance and appear like a completely different person too, i am assuming she has prior knowledge on where everything is in the mansion so she did probably create something like a knife drop thing from one side while she tazers from behind or smth

I don't believe she is fast enough to prep a full elaborate trap when she loses in speed, it's gonna be hard for her to even leave her sight

acrobatics should even things out

That's how i see things going yes

Alexia might fall for her words but it's not like it's gonna work if you think Ai is gonna hit her with a cheap shot because of what i said above, ANPR, IA and speed advantage also skill

Isn't it to early to vote?

actually yk what, i agree, i am taking my vote back cuz i didnt see how big of a skill diff there was

Ai might actually need some prep time to setup traps for this ot be equal

 

[XxZetsuxX]

acrobatics should even this out

Her acrobatics seem to be stuff like wall running i think?

How is this helping in rooms, also wall running will make her go high up and unable to go through a door (i don't know if you understand what i mean with this, i suck at explaining)

Ai is smart enough that she would probably lure her into a trap that is a step by step trap that could do stuff like distract her attention and then another trap to make her think it was a bluff and then drop the tazer

Personally, i don't believe she has enough to for this, any distraction can easily be countered by reactions which she then can immediately counter attack

Alexia is also gonna be super cautious since she can measure strenght and will notice she can one shot her with info analysis

this might be funny but she could probably change her appearance and appear like a completely different person too, i am assuming she has prior knowledge on where everything is in the mansion so she did probably create something like a knife drop thing from one side while she tazers from behind or smth

Uh, if you have that as prior knowledge then you are wrong

Prior knowledge is only about Alexia, not the house, i did not think that further lol

Also, it's not a mansion, just a random average house that is abandoned

acrobatics should even things out

What i said above

actually yk what, i agree, i am taking my vote back cuz i didnt see how big of a skill diff there was

Ai might actually need some prep time to setup traps for this ot be equal

On it

 

[Sooshirohl]

yeah i agree that hayasaka's best chance would probably be getting prep to set up traps, but honestly, i don't know exactly what she'd set up

i mulled on it a bit more and i think alexia still just has a general advantage here. a surprise attack likely wouldn't even work on her as aforementioned, and with analytical prediction and IA i think she has more than enough time to react and just wrangle the taser out of hayasaka's hands with her superior LS. from there without her taser hayasaka just gets skill stomped really badly and there isn't really much else she can do

hayasaka's entire game plan basically revolves around setting up traps to hopefully catch alexia off guard and catch her with a surprise taser blast, but again, considering alexia can react to surprise attacks and is a far more skilled combatant, i just don't see many scenarios where she can pull that off without alexia reacting in time and just disarming her. i guess technically speaking, hayasaka wouldn't actually have to go for her directly and would likely be able to shock her if her taser made contact with her sword, which might be able to catch her off guard, but that's also assuming hayasaka can manage to do that without getting immediately disarmed thanks to alexia's superior LS + her speed advantage

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Wait hold on, does alexia know what a tazer is, cuz there is a chance she just tries to cut it and ends up electric diffing herself

 

[Sooshirohl]

Wait hold on, does alexia know what a tazer is, cuz there is a chance she just tries to cut it and ends up electric diffing herself

that would unironically be an extremely funny way for her to lose

 

[Zefra3011]

Wait hold on, does alexia know what a tazer is

Noup

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Noup

this is a real wincon then

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Satella, since you seem more knowledgeable

Can you elaborate what kind of trap she can perform?

She has no knowledge of the house, is slower than Alexia but you said acrobatics help which i feel that won't compensate much by being slower

What can she do in a short timeframe?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Satella, since you seem more knowledgeable

Can you elaborate what kind of trap she can perform?

She has no knowledge of the house, is slower than Alexia but you said acrobatics help which i feel that won't compensate much by being slower

What can she do in a short timeframe?

probably not much but give her a day and she could probably call up shinomiya house for some reinforcements, maybe modify the house a bit and such. Even if the speed diff is big, Alexia would definetely have some trouble if she has to constantly deal with traps while trying to find Ai in the house

The ap gap is also massive so Ai landing even one hit would be fatal (although unlikely)

Its been 2 or 3 yrs since kaguya sama's manga ended and i was a live reader so it has been quite a while

 

[XxZetsuxX]

probably not much but give her a day and she could probably call up shinomiya house for some reinforcements, maybe modify the house a bit and such. Even if the speed diff is big, Alexia would definetely have some trouble if she has to constantly deal with traps while trying to find Ai in the house

The ap gap is also massive so Ai landing even one hit would be fatal (although unlikely)

Its been 2 or 3 yrs since kaguya sama's manga ended and i was a live reader so it has been quite a while

I feel like this would make a stomp in Ai favor ngl

Sorry but i think i prefer the way things are currently ngl

 

[Sooshirohl]

ok so just picturing some scenarios here, they start off 10m away from each other in an abandoned house. in just a straight encounter, hayasaka is getting skill stomped and losing very badly, so she has to get into hiding to prepare an ambush attack. assuming she manages to do that, then her odds of winning are a lot higher.

hayasaka would likely realize very quickly that all she needs to do is make contact with alexia's sword with her taser and shock her that way, she doesn't necessarily need to hit her directly. hayasaka launches her ambush attack, and i think from here one of two things could probably happen.

1. hayasaka launches her ambush attack, but alexia reacts fast enough and simply disarms her, securing an easy victory from there.
2. hayasaka launches her ambush attack and alexia attempts to directly attack her taser not knowing what it is. however, she ends up getting shocked anyways, and hayasaka secures an easy victory from there.

i guess technically alexia has more avenues of winning by either disarming hayasaka as soon as she launches her ambush attack or by just not giving her a chance to get into hiding, but hayasaka has a very easy way of just incapping her, and she technically doesn't even need to land an attack on her directly to do it.

this is honestly more of a back and forth than i initially thought. i guess if i had to pick a side i'd still say either alexia or maybe incon? idk

 

[XxZetsuxX]

ok so just picturing some scenarios here, they start off 10m away from each other in an abandoned house. in just a straight encounter, hayasaka is getting skill stomped and losing very badly, so she has to get into hiding to prepare an ambush attack. assuming she manages to do that, then her odds of winning are a lot higher.

hayasaka would likely realize very quickly that all she needs to do is make contact with alexia's sword with her taser and shock her that way, she doesn't necessarily need to hit her directly. hayasaka launches her ambush attack, and i think from here one of two things could probably happen.

1. hayasaka launches her ambush attack, but alexia reacts fast enough and simply disarms her, securing an easy victory from there.
2. hayasaka launches her ambush attack and alexia attempts to directly attack her taser not knowing what it is. however, she ends up getting shocked anyways, and hayasaka secures an easy victory from there.

i guess technically alexia has more avenues of winning by either disarming hayasaka as soon as she launches her ambush attack or by just not giving her a chance to get into hiding, but hayasaka has a very easy way of just incapping her, and she technically doesn't even need to land an attack on her directly to do it.

this is honestly more of a back and forth than i initially thought. i guess if i had to pick a side i'd still say either alexia or maybe incon? idk

I with agree with this assessment, with Alexia having more chances

Honestly, the current wincons for each are taser, ambush, one shot and prep time for Ai Hayasaka and Disarming, Skill, Speed for Alexia

Unless anyone can argue for other points, i believe we can now start counting votes?

Would anyone like to contest my decision?

 

[Zefra3011]

Yeah, either Alexia or incon.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Yeah, either Alexia or incon.

Which one you voting though, this doesn't tell me anything xd

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I think neither side has a good enough convincing argument to sway me so I am going incon

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I think neither side has a good enough convincing argument to sway me so I am going incon

Counted

I am voting for Alexia

 

[Sooshirohl]

i guesssssss i'll probably vote alexia for now. might change my vote if new arguments come up though, i think incon is also a very real possibility for this MU too

 

[XxZetsuxX]

i guesssssss i'll probably vote alexia for now. might change my vote if new arguments come up though, i think incon is also a very real possibility for this MU too

Counted

 

[XxZetsuxX]

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[XxZetsuxX]

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[MannyQ361]

Voting Alexia fra.