Akuma vs Mewtwo (speed equalized)

[Cropfist]

Battle of the fighters who think they're the strongest.

Round 1: Both in base forms.

Round 2: Oni Akuma vs Mega Mewtwo Y.

 

[Talonmask]

Mewtwo. They have the advantage of speed, mind hax, and more versatile ranged ability.

 

[Cropfist]

>speed equalized is put in the OP

 

[Talonmask]

I did not notice that, but I still stand by my vote.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Mewtwo via versatility

 

[ScarletFirefly]

I think I'm gonna go with Mewtwo for round 1 because of mind hax. In round 2 though, I'm gonna go with Oni. In that form he has lost his mind and will completely, and is nothing but rage and anger. I don't think Mewtwo will be able to mind hax him since he doesn't really have a mind anymore.

Also Mewtwo is weak to dark type attacks, and Oni would definitely be classified to Dark type. Also he can destroy the soul through the Raging Demon.

 

[Talonmask]

The Raging Demon is easily dodgeable, and Me First grants Mewtwo precognition.

I don't think you can associate Oni with Pokemon typing, or else people would be saying Sans' bone attacks are Ground-type still and that Shadow should have won the death battle because he's Dark-type, it doesn't work that way. It even states that Oni's Hadokens are more electrical based, so why would it be dark?

Mewtwo can hold Oni at a distance with telekinesis, so close quarters combat would be hard to accomplish in this scenario.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yeah I feel as though Mewtwo's versatile hax will give him the win high diff. Both rounds.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

The Gou Hado is electric basic, that's true. But the energy that births it is dark in nature. The Satsui no Hado, or Surge of thr Murderous Intent, is a dark energy that resides within everyone, and becomes more and more dominant when people give in to their dark nature, like Ryu that went Evil Ryu. In the case of Oni, he's completely dominated by the Hado so it makes sense for Oni to be Dark affiliated.

Also Oni can easily go intangible to close the distance and perform the Raging Demon.

 

[Talonmask]

Even if Oni can go intangible, Mewtwo has precognition and can teleport, Oni is not going to spam the Raging Demon.

Me First allows Mewtwo to predict and steal the opponent's move to use it on them, so Oni's only real hax ability can be used against him.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

The precognition part i get but wouldnt stealing the opponents move and using it against them count as an NLF? How would he even steal the move if the move is entirely made of a totally different foreign energy to that of Mewtwo?

 

[Talonmask]

The precognition part i get but wouldnt stealing the opponents move and using it against them count as an NLF? How would he even steal the move if the move is entirely made of a totally different foreign energy to that of Mewtwo?

It allows Mewtwo to mimic an incoming attack, if it's entirely different, then Oni's abilities cannot just be associated with the Dark-typing like what Scarlet is suggesting, because Mewtwo is capable of copying that typing.

If you want to assume Oni is Dark-type, that would then make him weak to Fighting, which Mewtwo has in the form of Aura Sphere. See how ridiculous this starts to sound?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

The precognition part i get but wouldnt stealing the opponents move and using it against them count as an NLF? How would he even steal the move if the move is entirely made of a totally different foreign energy to that of Mewtwo?

It allows Mewtwo to mimic an incoming attack, if it's entirely different, then Oni's abilities cannot just be associated with the Dark-typing like what Scarlet is suggesting, because Mewtwo is capable of copying that typing.
If you want to assume Oni is Dark-type, that would then make him weak to Fighting, which Mewtwo has in the form of Aura Sphere. See how ridiculous this starts to sound?

Forgive me but i wasnt trying to dicuss anything type related haha. I was only seeking an answer to my NLF comment.

That is the thing. HOW would Mewtwo mimic it? Mimic something completely foreign and uncorlelated to him? And then how could he produce an even stronger version of it? Could he mimic something such as Haki, Reitsu, or even something like the Phioenx Force? I'd only like to know how is all to further understand.

 

[Talonmask]

I think it depends on what's provided within the Pokemon universe and holds similarities to certain aspects within it, so it wouldn't be able to mimic something like Phoienx Force per say, but would be able to replicate certain umbrakinesis despite not naturally learning said abilities. If it was a complete NLF I doubt it would have it on its profile.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I think it depends on what's provided within the Pokemon universe and holds similarities to certain aspects within it, so it wouldn't be able to mimic something like Phoienx Force per say, but would be able to replicate certain umbrakinesis despite not naturally learning said abilities. If it was a complete NLF I doubt it would have it on its profile.

I think i see what you are talking about. So lets say Mewtwo used Me First when fighting lets say Goku. We can say he would be able to copy the KI attacks of DB because pokemon has similar techniques with similar energies like Aura Sphere, Focus Blast, Hyper Beam and so on, which are energy based techniques. But if he were fighting someone with the Phoienx Force he couldnt mimic it because there's no move in Pokemon that is similar to it and its characteristics. Is that what you meant?

Nah it isnt a complete NLF because half of the move is defined as Precognition which is justified by its definition. The only part that could be NLF would be the mimicing part.

 

[Talonmask]

Yes, that's what I meant.

If it was an NLF, it would have been agreed upon to not have it there, but I guess.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Thing is, the Raging Demon cannot be copied since it requires special training in the Ansatsu no Ken and to be overtaken by the Satsui no Hado. And Oni can teleport also.

I mentioned earlier that precognition would likely not work or work partially since Oni doesn't think and therefore you don't know what he's thinking.

 

[Talonmask]

And? Then it remains a ranged battle, which Mewtwo holds the advantage in.

It's predicting attacks and movement, not necessarily what the target is thinking, so it will still likely work.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Well there are different kinds of precog. You can predict the near future or predict what the opponent is thinking, or see the body language like the Sharinga.

 

[Talonmask]

I am aware of that, but Me First functions similar to Sharingan as both allow movement prediction and ability copying.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Im pretty sure any psychic type Pokemon has most, if not, any type of precog given the crazy abilities they have but I could be wrong.