Add Scans for Living Tribunal (Marvel)

[Robo432343]

Abstract Existence type 1 - He is a conceptual being, insubstantial as an idea

BFR - Banished Zom

Teleportation - Can teleport others

Attack reflection - reflected strange's spell

Power Nullification - Prevented Adam from using the powers of the Infinity Gauntlet

 

[Antvasima]

This seems uncontroversial to apply.

 

[Robo432343]

Sadly, we still need to ping knowledgeable members and let them evaluate it which can take more than a week

 

[Antvasima]

@SuperAPM @EmperorRorepme @Ehnkr2beboh @Elizio33 @LordTracer @MarvelFanatic119 @catzlaflame @Gasper @Maverick_Zero_X @Lightning_XXI @Vasco @Eseseso @MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer @Alonik @LuciferX @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Tllmbrg @Dark-Carioca @ObberGobb

What do you think about this?

 

[Vasco]

Fate manip - Can manipulate fate to induce accursed events. He is the final arbiter of fate and his verdict binds the cosmos

Heavily doubtful on this being fate manipulation especially the first scan.

Transduality type 2 - Transcends all dualities of the multiverse, considering those concepts as inferior to his existence, being the judge who bestrides and is apart of them

I haven't checked the transduality page to understand it so I can't give an answer but everything is fine.

 

[Gasper]

Seems fine

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Agreed

 

[Robo432343]

Heavily doubtful on this being fate manipulation especially the first scan.

I haven't checked the transduality page to understand it so I can't give an answer but everything is fine.

uh isnt the first fate manip scan the most obvious one?

 

[Vasco]

uh isnt the first fate manip scan the most obvious one?

What he is said isn't him manipulating fate but the fate of what's going to happen to the world, That's why he said tremble insolent one at the image of the fate which has been decreed for your accursed sphere.

His just talking about the fate of the world's destruction not him directly manipulating fate or anything.

 

[Robo432343]

What he is said isn't him manipulating fate but the fate of what's going to happen to the world, That's why he said tremble insolent one at the image of the fate which has been decreed for your accursed sphere.

His just talking about the fate of the world's destruction not him directly manipulating fate or anything.

i see. so the second fate scan should stay?

 

[Excellence616]

Heavily doubtful on this being fate manipulation especially the first scan.

I haven't checked the transduality page to understand it so I can't give an answer but everything is fine.

I agree with @Vasco

 

[Vasco]

i see. so the second fate scan should stay?

Kinda vague final arbiter of fate dosen't necessarily mean fate manipulation.
He did say his verdict bends the cosmos perphaps Law manipulation? Just ask other members on that.

 

[Antvasima]

I also agree with Vasco's arguments above.

 

[Eseseso]

Agree with Vasco

 

[LuciferX]

I agree

 

[Antvasima]

So should I unlock the LT's page so what has been accepted here can be added, in lack of better options?

 

[Vasco]

So should I unlock the LT's page so what has been accepted here can be added, in lack of better options?

We'd need a knowledgeable member to verify the Transduality, someone like @Deagonx or @ImmortalDread

 

[Antvasima]

We'd need a knowledgeable member to verify the Transduality, someone like @Deagonx or @ImmortalDread

@Elizhaa @SamanPatou @Matthew_Schroeder

What do you think about this?

 

[Gasper]

Bump

 

[Transcending]

I am not sure about duality. You need to be qualitatively above the dualities right? Is the Living Tribunal qualitatively above good/evil and order/chaos or does he just "transcend" them?

 

[Gasper]

I am not sure about duality. You need to be qualitatively above the dualities right? Is the Living Tribunal qualitatively above good/evil and order/chaos or does he just "transcend" them?

He is just "above" them. Concepts of good and evil just don't apply to him. Not sure about him transcending Chaos and order.

 

[Transcending]

He is just "above" them. Concepts of good and evil just don't apply to him. Not sure about him transcending Chaos and order.

The Transduality page says this-

Characters that exist in a nondual state regarding all dual systems within the scope of an entire level of reality and qualitatively superior or immune to the effects caused within it.

Seems being immune to the concepts is also Transduality. I am unsure about the type though, so I will stay neutral for now

 

[Antvasima]

So should I unlock the LT's page so what has been accepted here can be added, in lack of better options?

We'd need a knowledgeable member to verify the Transduality, someone like @Deagonx or @ImmortalDread

@Elizhaa @SamanPatou @Matthew_Schroeder

What do you think about this?

@Elizhaa @SamanPatou @Matthew_Schroeder @Qawsedf234 @PrinceofPein @Everything12 @Planck69 @Ovy7 @TheUnshakableOne @Damage3245

Are any of you knowledgeable regarding Transduality?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

@Elizhaa @SamanPatou @Matthew_Schroeder @Qawsedf234 @PrinceofPein @Everything12 @Planck69 @Ovy7 @TheUnshakableOne @Damage3245

Are any of you knowledgeable regarding Transduality?

Thank you for the Tag!

Though "Infinite dualities" is mentioned, there has to be a clear instance of "Transcendence" to the dualities for it to grant Transduality as an ability. Which from the scans provided i am not seeing that. but i have 0 knowledge on marvel comics.

If there is clear evidence of "transcendence" then it would be solid type 2, but i also find "infinite dualities" being used here to be quiet strange. is there any further context?

"Every where in the realms of duality" - Im assuming this implies there are realms with various different types of dual states within the cosmology? If my thinking is correct then transcendence over the cosmology could also grant Type 2, at the very least a "possibly Type 2"

edit: The first scan does imply at the very least a solid Transduality Type 1 because he is implying he doesn't have a concept of "good" and "evil."

Edit 2: 2nd scans the one that mentioned infinite dualities also mentioned transcendence over Death and Eternity, and Order and chaos. Which is solid Type 1 Transduality.

So Transduality Type 1 is very solid here.

Edit 3: who is the guy yelling in the 3rd scan? The one who sais "I bestride all dualities..." I had to google the word bestride but it does seem to imply transcendence over all Dual Systems with its definition of "To tower over."

Which is transduality Type 2.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for helping out.

 

[Everything12]

Yeah, it doesn't seem to meet the current standards for Transduality.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems to have been rejected then.

Thank you for helping out to you as well.

 

[Ovy7]

I don't get Transduality at all from those scans. The first scan it's just about how the duality of Good and Evil is beyond him because he's the balancer. These concept don't "exist" to him as long as the balance is mentained.

This scan seems to be pretty much a metaphor for LT's role.

The rests of the scans are honestly not better. At most it solidify the above role that LT has, and at worst they are just flowerly words to make the dialogue sound "big".

Edit: This is coming from someone (me) who doesn't read comics, btw

 

[Vasco]

I guess transduality is rejected.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Not sure about the TD, but the rest looks okay

 

[Antvasima]

So transduality has been rejected then, but which members have accepted the other suggested abilities here?

 

[Vasco]

No staff, all simply came to evaluate transduality and rejected it but Princeofpein agreed with everything else except transduality, I agreed with some except fate manipulation and transduality which the OP removed after being rejected.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I also think that what remains in the first post of this thread seems uncontroversial to apply.