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Acaus 5 question

AlipheeseXIV

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So I've seen a lot of people have differing (and outright objectively incorrect) opinions on how characters can obtain acaus type 5, some people I know think only tier 0 characters can have it. Which is funny since acaus 5 tends to be really overrated to some people who don't fully understand it from what I have personally seen, as...afaik at least. It is essentially just a watered down version of HDE, BDE, ND2 and various other superior omni immunity hax (unless you're tier 0). So this thread is mainly to answer a question for the sake of proving them wrong, how exactly do you obtain type 5 acaus?

From my understanding of the type 5 acaus page and shortening the explanation to a major degree, a character would obtain said ability by simply being above causality correct? As the page states that

"Characters with this type of Acausality are completely independent of cause and effect, existing outside causality. Characters of this nature require evidence of being unable to be changed by any effect that relies on a system of causality, meaning that interacting with them normally is impossible."

Now for clarification purposes, the last part mentioning how "interacting with them normally is impossible" is something I'm not entirely sure the direct meaning behind, I'm assuming by interacting it means that the character is just above the influence of the level of causality in question? So being a higher d being would be sufficient enough? I'm not entirely sure on that part, anyways to summarize the main point.

Would a character who is for arguments sake say...6D have acaus 5 if they are immune/dimensionally superior to a 5D causality manip user?
 
No. You'd need a direct statement that they are unbound/superior to Causality iirc, and have a direct showing/statement that shows they can't be interacted with DUE TO being superior to Causality, not just a single statement of being unable to interact with, without any mention of causality.
 
No. You'd need a direct statement that they are unbound/superior to Causality iirc, and have a direct showing/statement that shows they can't be interacted with DUE TO being superior to Causality, not just a single statement of being unable to interact with, without any mention of causality.
Well, assuming that there was indeed a statement mentioning that they exist outside causality and thus can't be interacted with. That would grant acaus 5 correct?
 
If there is a statement that shows they cannot be interacted with due to existing outside of causality, then yes, that would be Acausality type 5, I believe.

There were a few threads about how if there exists higher levels of causality, then just being independent of one isn't enough for type 5 and all that shtick, but I'm honestly not sure about that.
 
There were a few threads about how if there exists higher levels of causality, then just being independent of one isn't enough for type 5 and all that shtick, but I'm honestly not sure about that.
That would completely contradict the ability being obtainable for characters who aren't tier 0, since obviously unless you are tier 0 there will always be a higher level of causality no? Unless it's specifically referring to the highest level of known causality on the specific verse in question so it's more of a case by case basis? Even then though wouldn't that contradict some examples of lower tier characters getting acaus type 5 by a tier 0?
 
If there is a statement that shows they cannot be interacted with due to existing outside of causality, then yes, that would be Acausality type 5, I believe.
Okay, I guess I'll wait for more people to reply or double check in the powers & abilities thread or smth
 
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