About Xbox's Undertale Easter Egg

[GPR_Shadow]

At first I think I want to make a CRT, but my knowledge about the tools of the website isn't that great, so I'm just asking for the thing instead

So, in Undertale Xbox there're many thing, even the cool Easter egg

And now we focusing on "the controller disconnected on true lab"


So, I am going to ask if this implied anything, especially the Japanese one, because when someone jailbreak the Xbox Undertale they find that heart in the Japanese use Kokoro to Describe it

Kokoro means not only the organ but "the heart, mind and spirit", that's mean its talking about The SOUL in Undertale, and well there're two hearts, and because we agree Chara doesn't have any so this is
1. The Player's SOUL
2. Frisk's SOUL

And we know that the player can just straight up disconnect their soul and connect it back, just like Kris, is this added some ability ?

And The controller can actually be like a standard equipment of The Player XD, speaking of that, Controller on the text use word kontōrorā, it's a literal word for controller in term of gaming/system etc, I'm just saying that, is this a qualitative transcendence ? Like seeing something is game/system or anything ? 1-A The Player baby or any tier, well with CRT of course, this is just a qna

Oh yeah, one more thing, the player potentially can control body part separately if they want to, all of the body part got controlled separately

Well, that's it maybe.
Thanks to This dude, I know something about the Xbox's version of Undertale

 

[GPR_Shadow]

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[GPR_Shadow]

@StrymULTRA @Qurbonboev @LittleGuy99

 

[Homie890]

@StrymULTRA @Qurbonboev @LittleGuy99

Normal members can't tag each other.
You. However, can maybe go ask them on their Wall.

 

[GPR_Shadow]

Normal members can't tag each other.
You. However, can maybe go ask them on their Wall.

Huh, i think that's only for admin, alright then, my bad

 

[Qurbonboev]

So, I am going to ask if this implied anything, especially the Japanese one, because when someone jailbreak the Xbox Undertale they find that heart in the Japanese use Kokoro to Describe it

I do think that your interpretation has merit, but since this knowledge comes from hacking console specific version of the game, it can't be used for any kind of CRT

 

[Qurbonboev]

Like seeing something is game/system or anything ? 1-A The Player baby or any tier, well with CRT of course, this is just a qna

1-A Player has anti feats(like needing Chara for rebuilding the game), so it won't gonna happen

 

[GPR_Shadow]

I do think that your interpretation has merit, but since this knowledge comes from hacking console specific version of the game, it can't be used for any kind of CRT

Well, this message actually happens in real time though, the text just cut off in the word face in English, and in Japanese in the word mouth , also Omega Flowey hack into the controller too

Maybe we can add like a different version of Undertale ? Like movie version, comic version

1-A Player has anti feats(like needing Chara for rebuilding the game), so it won't gonna happen

Fair enough, but maybe 1-C is possible

 

[Qurbonboev]

Well, this message actually happens in real time though, the text just cut off in the word face in English, and in Japanese in the word mouth , also Omega Flowey hack into the controller too

Huh, interesting. Could be used as justification for adding controller as standard equipment.

I'm just saying that, is this a qualitative transcendence ? Like seeing something is game/system or anything ? 1-A The Player baby or any tier, well with CRT of course, this is just a qna

Fair enough, but maybe 1-C is possible

IIRC, we already accept that Player views UTDR as video game, we just don't give any kind of superiority for such thing.
If we get situation like hearing in Deltarune that "Angel(referring to us) transcends our world" it would be justification for +1D(which would result in 6D or 1-C), but for now it's nothing

 

[GPR_Shadow]

Huh, interesting. Could be used as justification for adding controller as standard equipment.

Yosh, mission accomplished

IIRC, we already accept that Player views UTDR as video game, we just don't give any kind of superiority for such thing.
If we get situation like hearing in Deltarune that "Angel(referring to us) transcends our world" it would be justification for +1D(which would result in 6D or 1-C), but for now it's nothing

Owh, alright then.

hmmm do i need to make a CRT now , or you can help me to make it :v, just put my name hehe

Oh yeah what is your take about two kokoro(SOUL)

 

[Qurbonboev]

hmmm do i need to make a CRT now

I am gonna check everything later. It should be short CRT, so help wouldn't be needed that much

 

[Homie890]

Huh, interesting. Could be used as justification for adding controller as standard equipment.

The Player watching in abject horror as someone that has Tech Manip disables their controller

 

[Qurbonboev]

The Player watching in abject horror as someone that has Tech Manip disables their controller

1. Need to know about Player
1. Need to have range greater than 2 hypertimelines to do it.
2. Player can always LOAD back

 

[Homie890]

1. Need to know about Player
1. Need to have range greater than 2 hypertimelines to do it.
2. Player can always LOAD back

It's Joever

 

[GPR_Shadow]

The Player watching in abject horror as someone that has Tech Manip disables their controller

Well, Omega Flowey seems to fit that description, kind of :v

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

1. It probably may be used as supportive, but nothing beyond that.
2. I don't think disconnecting vessel gives any separate ability.
3. Controller can probably be added.

So yeah that's what I think.

 

[GPR_Shadow]

1. It probably may be used as supportive, but nothing beyond that.
2. I don't think disconnecting vessel gives any separate ability.
3. Controller can probably be added.

So yeah that's what I think.

Appreciated your answer sir, what about controls body part separately, that's pretty good feats against physical attack (from my perspective)

 

[StrymULTRA]

At first I think I want to make a CRT, but my knowledge about the tools of the website isn't that great, so I'm just asking for the thing instead

So, in Undertale Xbox there're many thing, even the cool Easter egg

And now we focusing on "the controller disconnected on true lab"


So, I am going to ask if this implied anything, especially the Japanese one, because when someone jailbreak the Xbox Undertale they find that heart in the Japanese use Kokoro to Describe it

Kokoro means not only the organ but "the heart, mind and spirit", that's mean its talking about The SOUL in Undertale, and well there're two hearts, and because we agree Chara doesn't have any so this is
1. The Player's SOUL
2. Frisk's SOUL

And we know that the player can just straight up disconnect their soul and connect it back, just like Kris, is this added some ability ?

And The controller can actually be like a standard equipment of The Player XD, speaking of that, Controller on the text use word kontōrorā, it's a literal word for controller in term of gaming/system etc, I'm just saying that, is this a qualitative transcendence ? Like seeing something is game/system or anything ? 1-A The Player baby or any tier, well with CRT of course, this is just a qna

This is already listed as Possession in their profile.

1-A Player has anti feats(like needing Chara for rebuilding the game), so it won't gonna happen

Being 1-A does not mean always have complete control over the lower realms, reverse smurfs are a thing.

But regardless, the main anti-feat is their DT being used from Frisk and Chara (and nothing indicates that they use just a fragment of it), with said DT being matched from Asriel by absorbing a bunch of non 1-A SOULs.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

But regardless, the main anti-feat is their DT being used from Frisk and Chara (and nothing indicates that they use just a fragment of it), with said DT being matched from Asriel by absorbing a bunch of non 1-A SOULs.

One can argue that they never state that they used Player’s full power. Just like Frisk technically always uses Player’s Determination for SAVE & LOAD.

 

[GPR_Shadow]

This is already listed as Possession in their profile.

Alright then, but are the body parts that get controlled separately make anything different ? Like Mad Dummy, she moves the body separately

And about the controller that become standard equipment because Omega Flowey hack into the interface of controller

 

[StrymULTRA]

One can argue that they never state that they used Player’s full power. Just like Frisk technically always uses Player’s Determination for SAVE & LOAD.

Yeah but the Player has no 1-A feats either so...

Alright then, but are the body parts that get controlled separately make anything different ? Like Mad Dummy, she moves the body separately

Nah, that's built-in basic Possession.

And about the controller that become standard equipment because Omega Flowey hack into the interface of controller

Now that's a 1-A anti feat lmao.

But good catch.

 

[GPR_Shadow]

Nah, that's built-in basic Possession.

Fair

Now that's a 1-A anti feat lmao.

But good catch

Why is that an anti ? I don't really understand 1-A tbh


And what's your take about "why is Heart repeated two times", honestly this is the main point of this qna, i just want to know did Frisk and The Player have two different SOUL ?

Headcannon time :
Like, when Chara taking over that's Chara taking over Frisk's SOUL, and when destroyed the game world they taking over The Player's SOUL

also it can be a different state of a SOUL, like in a normal battle the sprite use is "spr_heart" which is Frisk's state of heart (we are not affected)

and when fighting omega flowey the sprite use is "spr_ourheart", when we are affected with a lot of crashes shenanigan.


The source of most of the explaination : This and This, for the sprite one i just learn that omega flowey use a different sprite in a reddit post

 

[StrymULTRA]

Why is that an anti ? I don't really understand 1-A tbh

1-A requires a full separation from the fictional world to the point that nothing of the latter can compare/reach the real world no matter how amped the latter is, for also the reason why a fictional thing can never harm you no matter how strong it gets.

Omega Flowey hacking the controller means that by simply using non 1-A SOULs, he reached the power to affect the Real World, basically disqualifying the complete separation that's required for a real R>F.

 

[GPR_Shadow]

Omega Flowey hacking the controller means that by simply using non 1-A SOULs, he reached the power to affect the Real World, basically disqualifying the complete separation that's required for a real R>F.

Uhhh, technically flowey doesn't hack the controller, but the interface, the screen, the controller doesn't get any bad effect, like his feats in the pc one he just crash the game, not make the keyboard useless

 

[GPR_Shadow]

compare/reach the real world no matter how amped the latter is, for also the reason why a fictional thing can never harm you no matter how strong it gets.

But yeah, knowing that deltarune is about "banish Angel's heaven" maybe that's actually true

 

[StrymULTRA]

Uhhh, technically flowey doesn't hack the controller, but the interface, the screen, the controller doesn't get any bad effect, like his feats in the pc one he just crash the game, not make the keyboard useless

I had to double check, you're right.

But still, R>F for the UTDR Player rn is just too vague, giving the requriements:

Particularly in the latter cases, the portrayal of the real world can also play a relevant role in the evaluation. Specifically: While a generic superiority in power to lower-world beings on the part of the inhabitants of the higher world serves as supporting evidence at best, cases where the superiority in question is treated as "size-like" (Not in the sense of being literally correlated with space, but in the sense of the real world being depicted as somehow "vaster" and more immense than the fiction) in some way are also great material to build a case for a genuine transcendence.

For the R>F transcendence to be indexed, the portrayal of the transcendence must be taken into account. If the transcendence is treated as sufficiently portrayed and is important to the story (i.e. being the literal author of the world with complete control over it), then it's valid. If it is not sufficiently portrayed as transcendence compared to the fictional world, then we would not index it as such and would simply tier it as if no R>F transcendence was involved.

There's nothing indicating that the Player holds absolute superiority over the game world in both size and power, given how little info we have on them. So yuck...

 

[GPR_Shadow]

There's nothing indicating that the Player holds absolute superiority over the game world in both size and power, given how little info we have on them. So yuck...

Yeah
Let's wait for Tony Radiation Fox make the player a god

Anyway, what we get here, new feats for CRT or something, as far as I can see we agree that the Controller can be a standard equipment

I just want more Undertale discussion

 

[GPR_Shadow]

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