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A Star War between two hatred beings

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Hopefully this isn't a horrid stomp.


Both are 8-A


Range starts at 15 meters


Speed is equalized


This should take place around the planet Hoth.


This is Post-Rebels Vader


The Angry Snowman upscales a lot from 109.395 Tons


Darth Vader scales to 491.07 Tons


Who would win or why?


The Angry Snowman:
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Darth Vader:
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Incon:
 
Arceus0x said:
Darth Vader kinda melts tbh. He could literally mind hax him if he gets bored.
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The Snowman has Type 2 Inorganic Physiology, does his mindhax work on stuff like that?
 
Propellus said:
But then again, the Snowman could easily get out of the force's grip considering that he scales in Class M way more than Vader does, and the Snowman can just attack him from then
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this isn't a question of LS it is a question of destorying his insides. Additionally Vader can just use force speed to get close and just cut through the snowman with his beyond steel melting lightsaber.
 
Arceus0x said:
this isn't a question of LS it is a question of destorying his insides. Additionally Vader can just use force speed to get close and just cut through the snowman with his beyond steel melting lightsaber.
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His insides are just as tanky as he is afaik. And the moment Vader tries doing that, the AS can just blow him away with his Air Manipulation
 
Propellus said:
His insides are just as tanky as he is afaik. And the moment Vader tries doing that, the AS can just blow him away with his Air Manipulation
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The acceleration is huge and Vader can also lift and throw the snowman around if needed. His AP advantage also allows for a quick and easy kill so tankiness isn't stopping a thousands degree 500 ton lightsaber from melting his insides
 
Arceus0x said:
The acceleration is huge and Vader can also lift and throw the snowman around if needed. His AP advantage also allows for a quick and easy kill so tankiness isn't stopping a thousands degree 500 ton lightsaber from melting his insides
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And even then, Vader has no Ice resistance either, so the Snowman can literally just freeze him to stop him for a few seconds. How much can the acceleration go? Does Vader do that in character? And again, the Snowman scales in Class M way more than Vader does, and even if Vader could just toss the Snowman around, it's not gonna stop him considering his level of Regen and Immortality.
 
Propellus said:
And even then, Vader has no Ice resistance either, so the Snowman can literally just freeze him to stop him for a few seconds. How much can the acceleration go? Does Vader do that in character? And again, the Snowman scales in Class M way more than Vader does, and even if Vader could just toss the Snowman around, it's not gonna stop him considering his level of Regen and Immortality.
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acceleration makes him go from normal speed to a blur and he uses it when needed. Class M ain't getting him back on the ground, it would only help him if Vader was trying to hold him on the ground. Instead Vader can literally crush his insides and with his almost 5x AP advantage the snowman ain't gonna hold.
 
Arceus0x said:
acceleration makes him go from normal speed to a blur and he uses it when needed. Class M ain't getting him back on the ground, it would only help him if Vader was trying to hold him on the ground. Instead Vader can literally crush his insides and with his almost 5x AP advantage the snowman ain't gonna hold.
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That doesn't really explain how fast Vader can go with that, and even then, the AS still has a few seconds to react. And even then, the Snowman still has the massive LS advantage against Darth's Force LS, so it won't work. And the Snowman can literally just freeze Vader while he does that if he insists on just incapacitating him with TK alone
 
Propellus said:
That doesn't really explain how fast Vader can go with that, and even then, the AS still has a few seconds to react. And even then, the Snowman still has the massive LS advantage against Darth's Force LS, so it won't work. And the Snowman can literally just freeze Vader while he does that if he insists on just incapacitating him with TK alone
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Darth sidious should have replaced vader with the snowman as his apprentice then.
 
Propellus said:
That doesn't really explain how fast Vader can go with that, and even then, the AS still has a few seconds to react. And even then, the Snowman still has the massive LS advantage against Darth's Force LS, so it won't work. And the Snowman can literally just freeze Vader while he does that if he insists on just incapacitating him with TK alone
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Just shut it about the LS already. There are two situations where LS would be relevant. Option 1: Vader tries to pin down the Snowman to the ground
Option 2: Vader tries to restrict his hand movements or side to side movements.

That's it. He can lift him, he can throw him. Crushing isn't an LS thing it is an AP thing it's literally about applying force to an object until it bursts not something trying to outlift him or whatever.

I think Vader wins before snowman freezes because Vader can just crush him or cut him up. Also freezing him would require hitting him and Vader can either block it with the force (you can even block an explosion with the force) or just dodge it.
 
Arceus0x said:
Just shut it about the LS already. There are two situations where LS would be relevant. Option 1: Vader tries to pin down the Snowman to the ground
Option 2: Vader tries to restrict his hand movements or side to side movements.

That's it. He can lift him, he can throw him. Crushing isn't an LS thing it is an AP thing it's literally about applying force to an object until it bursts not something trying to outlift him or whatever.

I think Vader wins before snowman freezes because Vader can just crush him or cut him up. Also freezing him would require hitting him and Vader can either block it with the force (you can even block an explosion with the force) or just dodge it.
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Even if vader wins I still think snowman would make a better apprentice than vader for sidious
 
Arceus0x said:
Just shut it about the LS already. There are two situations where LS would be relevant. Option 1: Vader tries to pin down the Snowman to the ground
Option 2: Vader tries to restrict his hand movements or side to side movements.

That's it. He can lift him, he can throw him. Crushing isn't an LS thing it is an AP thing it's literally about applying force to an object until it bursts not something trying to outlift him or whatever.
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But you just said Vader can just lift up the Snowman to restrain him. The point is of TK is an alternative way of lifting something which can translate into LS. The Snowman can literally just excert force to the ground to prevent that from happening, Vader outlifting the Snowman with the Force isn't happening considering the fact that his Force LS is literally 58x lower than what the Snowman scales. But if you're saying that he can still crush it with the force through AP then fine.
Arceus0x said:
I think Vader wins before snowman freezes because Vader can just crush him or cut him up. Also freezing him would require hitting him and Vader can either block it with the force (you can even block an explosion with the force) or just dodge it.
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Considering the Snowman's state of mind, he's not going to **** around, he'll make damn sure the fight ends sooner than possible. And even then, the Snowman can still overpower Vader with his Air Manipulation as well.
 
Propellus said:
But you just said Vader can just lift up the Snowman to restrain him. The point is of TK is an alternative way of lifting something which can translate into LS. The Snowman can literally just excert force to the ground to prevent that from happening, Vader outlifting the Snowman with the Force isn't happening considering the fact that his Force LS is literally 58x lower than what the Snowman scales. But if you're saying that he can still crush it with the force through AP then fine.
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You absolute donut how in the actual hell is he going to excert force downwards when he is flying in the freaking air?
Aight go and tie yourself to a helicopter and let's see you pull it down when it is in the air.
The only way i can think of is the wind but if he pins himself down with the wind to save himself from tk he will leave himself open.


Propellus said:
Considering the Snowman's state of mind, he's not going to **** around, he'll make damn sure the fight ends sooner than possible. And even then, the Snowman can still overpower Vader with his Air Manipulation as well.
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Yes air manip is literally the only thing going for him right now. Everything else will get overpowered, dodged or reverted. The moment Vader crushes him or slashes him it's over. The Snowman can be as pissed as all hell but his literal only hope is spamming wind which won't even harm Vader much just blow him back. The moment he stops spamming wind it's over since Vader will either force crush or approach at high speed and cut him down.
 
Arceus0x said:
You absolute donut how in the actual hell is he going to excert force downwards when he is flying in the freaking air?
Aight go and tie yourself to a helicopter and let's see you pull it down when it is in the air.
The only way i can think of is the wind but if he pins himself down with the wind to save himself from tk he will leave himself open.
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You kinda strawmanned my point there, I was literally referring to the statement if all Vader is going to do is just restrain him with the Force alone which I've already explained why that method would be useless.
Arceus0x said:
Yes air manip is literally the only thing going for him right now. Everything else will get overpowered, dodged or reverted. The moment Vader crushes him or slashes him it's over. The Snowman can be as pissed as all hell but his literal only hope is spamming wind which won't even harm Vader much just blow him back. The moment he stops spamming wind it's over since Vader will either force crush or approach at high speed and cut him down.
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Well that's the point, due to the Snowman's Physiology, he's not going to get tired for very long which I've explained to you in another thread. Idk much about Vader's stamina feats, but the Snowman can literally just keep spamming it to drain Vader's stamina to get him tired and finally finish him off if that were be the case.
 
Propellus said:
Well that's the point, due to the Snowman's Physiology, he's not going to get tired for very long which I've explained to you in another thread. Idk much about Vader's stamina feats, but the Snowman can literally just keep spamming it to drain Vader's stamina to get him tired and finally finish him off if that were be the case.
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Thing is, he caused it via spinning. If Vader lifts him up for example, he may be able to flail his arms around, but at that point moving your body enough to spin is out of the question especially considering Vader is extremely clever and could just, idk, put him on the side thus preventing him from shooting wind in his general direction.
 
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