A question about Yogiri regarding adding Higher-Dimensional Existence

[Azertyhuuh]

I want to add Higher-Dimensional Existence (6D) to Yogiri (Avatar).

Reason:

Spoiler: The Abyss

But then their eyes met. The boy was looking at him.

That was impossible. There was no way he could see this dimension. No matter where he looked, from within three-dimensional space, it was impossible to see someone in the Abyss. And yet he could tell that the boy was watching him.

"Impossible. Is he also someone who can reach this place?!"

The moment he wondered that, eyes appeared before him. Within this other dimension the man occupied, countless eyes suddenly opened up all around him, as if they had been waiting there closed the entire time. The man instinctively understood that they belonged to the boy, allowing him to see even in this space.

And then he suddenly understood. He had only been letting them run free. This world, this alternate dimension, was all a part of that young boy. If he wished it, they would lose their freedom there. Thanks to the power he held, the man could recognize that in an instant.

"Impossible! Such a power makes no sense!"

But no matter how he raged, the world would not bend. In this world where he should have been able to swim around freely, he had been frozen solid. He couldn't so much as move a finger now.

"No...what do you plan on doing with me?!"

Despite the man's ragged shout, the boy didn't seem interested in doing anything at all. He wasn't paying any attention to him anymore. He was just going to leave him there. The man would be trapped, able to do nothing but watch the world pass him by as he slowly starved to death.

As everyone can see, the Abyss owner himself states that it is impossible to perceive the Abyss from within a three-dimensional space, because the Abyss is a higher dimension. However, the boy was able to see what is inside it—and here he is referring to the boy (Yogiri). Moreover, the Abyss man explicitly stated that he is among those who can reach this place. In fact, it goes even further than that: the Abyss itself is nothing but a part of Yogiri, and Yogiri can do whatever he wants with it, as he nullified the authority of the Abyss man, who is capable of moving within the Abyss as he pleases.

Do not tell me it is dimensional manipulation, because he already has that in his profile. This is Higher-Dimensional Existence, since the Abyss is merely a part of Yogiri, and it was stated that he is among those who can reach the Abyss—indeed, it is originally a part of Yogiri.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

We have already answered this, no.

 

[Azertyhuuh]

Haha, I wasn’t expecting an answer from you or from Tensura fans in general because I already know your answer. This question is directed at others.

 

[Hecky2222]

Haha, I wasn’t expecting an answer from you or from Tensura fans in general because I already know your answer. This question is directed at others.

Non Tensura fan here. I am pretty sure you commented that on staff thread. This about to get accepted

Abstract Existence, Beyond Dimensional Existence, and Higher Dimensional Existence​

Higher-dimensional existence is fundamentally a way to define a space a character, being, or structure occupies with four or more spatial axes. This can be four, all the way up to ever-expanding infinite number sets. But all of this still comes down to the object in question can be "defined" as occupying a space through a coordinate system. An object existing purely as an abstract concept (Type 1 Abstract Existence), with no definitive size or spatial occupation within a cosmology, would not qualify for HDE. As there's no higher space it occupies, but rather it exists in a conceptualized state. However, an avatar of a Type 1 Abstract being that occupies reality as a physical form can qualify for HDE, as they can now be defined by a coordinate system.

By a similar notion, Beyond Dimensional Existence (Type 1) exist in a state in which they cannot be quantified by a spatial axis, while not being inherently superior to them in a fashion of qualitative superiority. Because they cannot be defined by a higher-dimensional coordinate system, they would also not qualify for an HDE rating, as there's no way to plot their existence within a spatial coordinate system. BDE Type 2 is slightly different, as those beings have a large relative size beyond spatial constructs, such as being a void that a cosmology is suspended in, but this means that their size inherently does not translate to a spatial coordinate system. Instead, they occupy a relatively larger area of cosmology, which happens to have a subset within itself that is defined by spatial coordinates.

There are possible exceptions to this standard, however. For example, if an Abstract Being occupies the concept whose information can be expressed or defined through spatial coordinates, such as the physical concept of space, then they can have both Abstract Existence and Higher Dimensional Existence at the same time.

However Qaw already told you Concept of End doesn't have tangiblity. So if Yogiri exists as Concept of End I assume you can't add HDE to his AE

 

[Azertyhuuh]

Non Tensura fan here. I am pretty sure you commented that on staff thread. This about to get accepted



However Qaw already told you Concept of End doesn't have tangiblity. So if Yogiri exists as Concept of End I assume you can't add HDE to his AE

at least read the topic properly. This has nothing to do with what we were discussing in the HDE thread at all.

 

[Hecky2222]

at least read the topic properly. This has nothing to do with what we were discussing in the HDE thread at all.

what stops me telling you this also?

 

[Cipher72]

I am looking at a lot of comments trying to explain but they didn't even read the OP lmao, not that I blame them because the concept is....
Intriguing

I want to add Higher-Dimensional Existence (6D) to Yogiri (Avatar).

Yogiri's avatar is the 3-D human, I don't have to explain why characters interacting with a six dimensional being in a three dimensional world or being able to comprehend said six dimensional being is an anti feat. That's all
Best of luck.

 

[Hecky2222]

I am looking at a lot of comments trying to explain but they didn't even read the OP lmao, not that I blame them because the concept is....
Intriguing

Yogiri's avatar is the 3-D human, I don't have to explain why characters interacting with a six dimensional being in a three dimensional world or being able to comprehend said six dimensional being is an anti feat. That's all
Best of luck.

Problem is he is arguing that his avatar encompassing cosmology by his comment. Which makes no sense. So I just decided to answer his question about encompassing whole

 

[Cipher72]

Problem is he is arguing that his avatar encompassing cosmology. Which makes no sense

A very compelling argument that holds up narratively with no contradiction. I think it's best he makes a CRT for this incredible proposal.

 

[Hecky2222]

A very compelling argument that holds up narratively with no contradiction. I think it's best he makes a CRT for this incredible proposal.

Yeah it is thread worthy indeed. We just can't read and larpers who don't know walking Yogiri in his avatar form encompasses whole cosmology

 

[Azertyhuuh]

A very compelling argument that holds up narratively with no contradiction. I think it's best he makes a CRT for this incredible proposal.

Yeah it is thread worthy indeed. We just can't read and larpers who don't know walking Yogiri in his avatar form encompasses whole cosmology

The Lord of the Abyss states that the Abyss is merely a part of Yogiri himself, and that Yogiri’s avatar extends to encompass the entire cosmology, not just his human form.

His avatar is not limited to his human form; rather, the eyes that encompass all creation are also part of him. They are his eyes and belong to him, allowing him to see anything anywhere and attack from any point. Everything is merely a part of him, and this is what the novel states. If you have any objection, you can provide evidence for it; otherwise, do not bother me.

 

[Hecky2222]

The Lord of the Abyss states that the Abyss is merely a part of Yogiri himself, and that Yogiri’s avatar extends to encompass the entire cosmology, not just his human form.

His avatar is not limited to his human form; rather, the eyes that encompass all creation are also part of him. They are his eyes and belong to him, allowing him to see anything anywhere and attack from any point. Everything is merely a part of him, and this is what the novel states. If you have any objection, you can provide evidence for it; otherwise, do not bother me.

Ye seems like you can make thread about it