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A good question.

1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void

1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void

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So normally, a universe is overshadowed by higher spatial temporal dimensions and destroying or transcending them would be tier 1 by default.

how about a universe that contains and overshadows these spatial temporal dimensions and is larger then them, if you destroy or transcend this universe, would it also be a tier 1 feat?
 
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It depends on if those higher dimensions are treated as higher infinities or not in the verse in question.
 
Ultra_instinct_issei said:
yeah, there are some verses where higher dimensions are just...there, without any transcendence to lower dimensions.
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existence of lower dimensions:

It all began with a seed-like black dot. The dot gradually proliferated into lines, criss-crossing each other, eventually into planes. They started building layers and evolved into a completely still sphere.

existence of higher dimensions:

In the center of the universe, Azathoth shut down its physical senses, sinking its consciousness into the depth of the higher dimension.

Its existence transcended different dimensions. To be exact, Ithaqua was the dimensions itself. Ithaqua had access to the past, present and future beyond human recognition.

proof of higher dimensions being superior to lower dimensions:

Mordiggian raised its head to gaze at the great being——Daoloth the creator.

“Ah...how divine it is. I’m just too humble to look directly upon…”

The existence of Daoloth was way beyond its comprehension. Overloaded with messages, Mordiggian’s body, consciousness and even soul were being squeezed.

Eyes, ears, nose started bleeding; skin was decaying; and pain was penetrating through all over its soul. However, Mordiggian’s will was unwavering to maintain direct gaze at Daoloth.

To Mordiggian, the existence of Daoloth remained incomprehensible.


???: I'm you, and also the origin of all things. You’re lying in my consciousness. This place transcends space and time dimensions. (Azathoth explaining who he is to Enoch)

Summoner: Huff——Huh? Those were...the memories of the past battles...I’ve been fighting to stop the war on the realm...But where am I now?
This dimension was boundless and colourless; Infinite star-like speckles were twinkling vaguely, making the black and white space less dull.


Would this suffice for superiority?
 
1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void said:
existence of lower dimensions:

It all began with a seed-like black dot. The dot gradually proliferated into lines, criss-crossing each other, eventually into planes. They started building layers and evolved into a completely still sphere.

existence of higher dimensions:

In the center of the universe, Azathoth shut down its physical senses, sinking its consciousness into the depth of the higher dimension.

Its existence transcended different dimensions. To be exact, Ithaqua was the dimensions itself. Ithaqua had access to the past, present and future beyond human recognition.

proof of higher dimensions being superior to lower dimensions:

Mordiggian raised its head to gaze at the great being——Daoloth the creator.

“Ah...how divine it is. I’m just too humble to look directly upon…”

The existence of Daoloth was way beyond its comprehension. Overloaded with messages, Mordiggian’s body, consciousness and even soul were being squeezed.

Eyes, ears, nose started bleeding; skin was decaying; and pain was penetrating through all over its soul. However, Mordiggian’s will was unwavering to maintain direct gaze at Daoloth.

To Mordiggian, the existence of Daoloth remained incomprehensible.


???: I'm you, and also the origin of all things. You’re lying in my consciousness. This place transcends space and time dimensions. (Azathoth explaining who he is to Enoch)

Summoner: Huff——Huh? Those were...the memories of the past battles...I’ve been fighting to stop the war on the realm...But where am I now?
This dimension was boundless and colourless; Infinite star-like speckles were twinkling vaguely, making the black and white space less dull.


Would this suffice for superiority?
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as expected, wherever there is azathoth, some higher dimensional shit will be there.
 
But in all seriousness, with the mentions of spatio-temporal dimensions, lower dimensions, incomprehensibility and boundlessness, This should be solid evidence (I might say it may be even better than Archie's statements for tier 1 chaos force)
 
What do you currently want to do here?
 
He is very unlikely to respond to this type of thread.
 
I meant that this does not seem to be a sufficiently important thread to pique his interest.
 
Thank you for helping out.
 
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