A few questions

[SubaruN2000]

1. Is it possible for a realm that transcends the concepts of space, time, and dimensions to still have causality and ordered events that follow each other? Or would those things contradict one another?

2. In verses with reality fiction hierarchies that have realms that trancends the concepts of space, time, and dimensions, how would fictions like stories and dreams which follow some order of events exist in those realms beyond the concepts of space, time, and dimensions?

3. Are statements from a character of equal value as statements an omniscient narrator?

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

1. that sounds contradictory but ive got no clue

2. same as 1.

3. if the 2 statements are contradicting each other id imagine the authors statement would beat out the characters

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

1. We have determined that time is not essential for causality, as mentioned on the Acausality page.

Being completely independent of time or laws; or similar forces, does not make you completely independent of causality without the relationship between these forces and causality being clarified, with it only being considered as evidence for an irregular relationship with causality otherwise.

2. Same as above.

3. Depends on how trust worthy and knowledgeable sed character is depicted. As well as context, such as if they are being tricked, or simply guessing.

 

[SubaruN2000]

But in a world without time or dimensions, there should not logically be any order of events. In order for a cause and effect relationship to occur one event must happen before the other as the cause, which makes the second event happen, that being the effect. This would imply some kind of order.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yes, but fiction is fiction, and it doesn't care about our rules. So, beings who exist beyond time somehow can still do stuff.

 

[Delta333]

We have determined that time is not essential for causality, as mentioned on the Acausality page.

Not really, it only applies to type 5 and you can still be type 4 by existing outside of time

Being completely independent of time or laws; or similar forces, does not make you completely independent of causality without the relationship between these forces and causality being clarified, with it only being considered as evidence for an irregular relationship with causality otherwise.

 

[SubaruN2000]

So basically causality and ordered events can exist without the concept of time without the wiki considering it a contradiction?