A 6-B mess

[StrymULTRA]

Kars vs Hoopa

Both 6-B, speed =

So much Stands:

So much Pokémon:

So much Outer Gods:

 

[Rikimarox2]

From the little knowledge of Pokémon I have, Hoopa starts with summoning, right?

I don't think they can summon shit like Palkia or Dialga? If so, could Kars just understand them and copy their summoning ability, or would it be NLF to assume he'd be able to summon every legendary Pokémon?

On another note, what Pokémon does Hoopa usually summon?

 

[StrymULTRA]

From the little knowledge of Pokémon I have, Hoopa starts with summoning, right?

Yep

I don't think they can summon shit like Palkia or Dialga? If so, could Kars just understand them and copy their summoning ability, or would it be NLF to assume he'd be able to summon every legendary Pokémon?

On another note, what Pokémon does Hoopa usually summon?

Look at the list in Hoopa's profile.

 

[Everything12]

It ususal summons the Legends; like the Weather Trio, Regigigas, Tao Trio... Oh yeah, and all three of the Creation Trio. It mind haxes them to boot.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Does he starts with Summons? Because Kars has kinda of passive reactive evolution that will grant him all powers of hoopa (except the summoning, it would be NLF)

 

[StrymULTRA]

Dudes, I've added the list of legendaries he summoned in his profile for a reason.

As 1st move he summons them all.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Can summon Palkia, Giratina, and Dialga

Uh oh.

Their mindhax is 4-D, right? I assume it would be able to work on Kars' infinite minds?

Also, he cannot kill Dialga or palkia, due to their acausality type 3. So, that's a problem.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Sleeping on Lake Trio being there

Their mindhax is 4-D, right? I assume it would be able to work on Kars' infinite minds?

Also, he cannot kill Dialga or palkia, due to their acausality type 3. So, that's a problem.

I smell stomp maybe? Can't Kars at least incap Hoopa in some way?

 

[Bernkastelll]

I smell stomp maybe? Can't Kars at least incap Hoopa in some way?

If Hoopa starts with the summoning, he can't do almost nothing

 

[StrymULTRA]

If Hoopa starts with the summoning, he can't do almost nothing

Worst thing is that Hoopa not being on Top 5 due of him being a Varies character.

Anyway asking to close this then.

 

[Rikimarox2]

I smell stomp maybe? Can't Kars at least incap Hoopa in some way?

How exactly? From what I'm seeing, if Hoopa summons any of the creation Trio, it's gege. Kars won't be able to do shit to them.

The only way I can see him winning is if he somehow copied Hoopa's mind control and used it on Hoopa. Though, doesn't he have to get hit by it in order for him to understand it?

If yes, then if Hoopa uses summoning, which is their go-to, then It's GG. Kars can't do shit.

If he doesn't need to get hit by it, then I guess he can mind control Hoopa, since Hoopa doesn't have any mind hax resistances on its profile.

Edit: Wait, with my vague memory, don't Psychic attacks include mind control and shit? And I assume Hoopa's mind hax is 4-D?

 

[Everything12]

Hoopa prefers using its portals and summoning to fight, preferring to only use its Mind Hax on its summons instead of using it on the opponent.

 

[StrymULTRA]

The only way I can see him winning is if he somehow copied Hoopa's mind control and used it on Hoopa. Though, doesn't he have to get hit by it in order for him to understand it?

Resistance to Poison, Acid, and Psychic based attacks while Confined

 

[Rikimarox2]

Resistance to Poison, Acid, and Psychic based attacks while Confined

What I meant to say is, is Hoopa's mind hax 4-D, and is his resistance to it 4-D as well?

If Kars doesn't need to get hit by the ability, and passively understands it, then he might be able to have a wincon if Hoopa's mindhax is 4-D, and his resistance is not.

Otherwise, I highly doubt Kars can win this.

Of course, you can just bring Chariot in here. Maybe there are other wincons that I'm unaware of.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Hoopa Unbound loses it's Ghost type for Dark type meaning it's much more resistance to psychic related attacks just fyi.

 

[StrymULTRA]

What I meant to say is, is Hoopa's mind hax 4-D, and is his resistance to it 4-D as well?

If Kars doesn't need to get hit by the ability, and passively understands it, then he might be able to have a wincon if Hoopa's mindhax is 4-D, and his resistance is not.

Otherwise, I highly doubt Kars can win this.

Of course, you can just bring Chariot in here. Maybe there are other wincons that I'm unaware of.

Nono I mean just that Kars' wincon is negged as soon as the Legendaries are in due of the number of them and most them out-stating Kars completely (10 High 3-As and 7 2-As I remember this), not to talk about all the hax and attacks trown at once.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Ah right, he can summon them all up at once.

Great.

Kars would get ****** even if he defeated hoopa with mind control.

Close this.