5B To Aru

[Golden_Void]

Have nothing else to add tbh, this is going to end up going in circles, but my stance has been made.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah, I already said this but the justification for 5B is clear.

Unless further arguments are made Im ok with closing

 

[ShieldsPlus]

And then we have these statements.

• he could easily smash the no longer needed adaptor with an overwhelming explosion of light that could turn an entire planet to dust.
• Yet that attack had held such power that it could blow away a planet

For the first one, you would need to already exceed the GBE of said planet to separate the materials constituting said planet into dust, and keep it in that form. Otherwise, the planet that was separated/turned to dust would eventually merge back together. This would defeat the purpose of said planet being turned into dust entirely in the first place.

As for the second one. To blow away a planet entirely would mean that it would already supersede the minimum GBE for that planet, as if the minimum amount of GBE were to be applied directly to that specific planet, said planet woud slowly drift apart away from its previous position/state (instead of you know, being blown away).

"Also "Turning a planet to dust" can very easily be a metaphorical or poetic phrasing."

Or you could just take the statement at face value, considering that this description is more concrete than something like "shaking the stars themselves" or assuming that an entire galaxy has been destroyed despite the Suns and planets in said galaxy still remaining intact.

Anyways, I don't see a statement that Fiamma (or any 5-B) feat can only "just destroy the world", when it specifically mentions that planets are either blown away, or destroyed completely.

Agreed with Lazyhunter and DontTalk for the evaluation of this feat.

 

[Heavens_Feel]

Wew, is Matthew a ToAru / Bleach expert now, lml

 

[Schnee_One]

Da Fuq does ImI mean?

 

[LordGinSama]

Probably Lmao


Anyway I agree with keeping Fiamma at 5-B.

 

[ShieldsPlus]

Da Fuq does ImI mean?

Use Google for questions like these, please.

Here, I'll link it to you, for easier access.

 

[Fllflourine]

I agree with DT and Hunter

 

[Schnee_One]

Dude

I did that

And it gave me an error

As much as I love you brining up what is normally a better solution, that shit happens

 

[Thebluedash]

I also agree with Fiamma being kept at 5-B, it only makes sense if other profiles have the same type of reasoning for their stats.

 

[Schnee_One]

Can we close this already?

Everyone agrees

 

[VoidGoji]

Here comes the future "Tier 1 To Aru debunk". Sigh.

If the Tier 1 is debunked, STTGL will be downgraded too.

 

[Schnee_One]

Nah, im certain To Aru will stay High 1C, I think Lazy and the rest have a great chance of defending that.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Expert

LazyHunter exists

 

[Schnee_One]

TFW Yhwach would in fact be the best Infamous character in verse

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I would appreciate if people stop being so mocking and condescending whenever I disagree with a verse you like.

It'd be best if you answered my question: what 5-B feats does Fiamma have? I'm being serious here, feats, not unproven exaggerated statements that Kamachi is so found of using in his writing.

So far I haven't seen a single feat.

 

[Schnee_One]

Matt. I geniuenly do respect you on this site and condier you one of the better admins on this site.

But they've proven the multiple statements and apparently not single statement do show that Fiamma can best a planet.

I will say this, I do think the other statements should be in the profile

 

[ShieldsPlus]

@Matthew I would appreciate if people stop being so mocking and condescending whenever I disagree with a verse you and Ever like.


Also, I have explained the reasons for why FIamma is Planet level, even at baseline. Because there are numerous statements that allude to the destruction of a planet, or the capability of destroying a planet.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I saw no prove of the statements being legit, just Planet level, which no one diaagreed.

They are planet Level unproven statements from a series that has a lot of exaggerated prose.

 

[Golden_Void]

Here comes the future "Tier 1 To Aru debunk". Sigh.
If the Tier 1 is debunked, STTGL will be downgraded too.

Sike

 

[Arigarmy]

this music is the best irony

 

[Heavens_Feel]

Lol, that music, wot

 

[ShieldsPlus]

I saw no proof of the statements being legit, just Solar System level, which no one disagreed.

They are Large Star level to Solar System level unproven statements from a series that has a lot of exaggerated prose.

• Oh, and regular stars can't shake.
• Only neutron stars can quake.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Khristis

Stop derailing this thread with Star Wars debates that you brought up last year and were already resolved.

 

[Reppuzan]

Personally, I'm inclined to agree with LazyHunter on this one.

The statements seem unbiased and impartial for the most part and it's consistent with the angels' feats.

The whole "lack of feats" thing is basically a device to preserve the setting. There isn't much you can do with To Aru if all but its most powerful characters die when the Earth blows up.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

You can have a series that has cosmic-feats while being earth-bound. Final Fantasy is a prime example.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Matt

I know that very well, but it's not like it's an exaggeration without basis. There are cosmic level feats in To Aru, so I don't think this is hyperbole.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I know, but they tend to come from people who have universal feats or so, who are far above Fiamma.

And well, "Can replicate all the legends of Christianity" (Legends, not miracles) is a Hyperbole through and through.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Wow, you guys couldn't be more condescending. How about you all not turn a thread into a shit show. That's all you all do nowadays, mock people (specifically Matt. Even though I disagree with him here.). In a moment you all are going to repeat the Weekly situation. You all really either need to leave or at least try not to turn this place into an unconfortable mess like you have for the past year. I don't care which you choose.

Seriously, cut it out.

 

[Sera_EX]

Gentlemen, we can behave maturely or we can act like 5-year-olds and mock people, your call.

 

[LordGinSama]

Should probably close this. This seems settled and Matt is the only one who disagrees at this point.

 

[Golden_Void]

Or we can close it :^)