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3A Db Chou Upgrade.

Chiraq004

Chiraq004

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Hello it's Chiraq again. I have a problem with the tiering for DB Chou. Although I agree that they're overall weaker then the anime, I still believe Chou Ssjg Goku should be on the same tier as DBS anime Ssj Goku. Why you ask, because the feat is the exact same. The shockwaves even reached Kaioshin Realm which exists outside the Macrocosm. So at the very least Three seperate universe sized spaces. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566776651116183552/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566776750395359232/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566777002514710528/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566778278677839892/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566778730584735744/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566779318630612993/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566781901319176193/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566781934903230472/image0.jpg https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/503031366401916959/566782846153523231/image0.png The DB universe is implied to be just as big as our universe as well. There is also a statement of there being infinite galaxies that exist within the universe. The Demon realm is called a universe. And Heaven is stated to be just as big as the Universe. So yes SSJG Goku(Chou) should be 3A.
 
I don't really understand why they weren't 3-A anyways.

Sure the timeframe is unknown (Even though this is completely asinine since this feat is still treated as an immediate threat, not one that will come in... an hour. A day. A week?) but the Universe Model should still apply to the Manga since... it's supposed to. The Daizenshuu refers to stuff in the Manga as well as the Anime.
 
Anime BoG SSG Goku was 3-A for creating the Super Dense Energy Ball that was going to destroy Universe 7. He wasn't 3-A for his clash with Beerus. That was just a supporting feat was just high end 3-B. Though if this feat gets accepted as high end 3-B like the anime I'm pretty sure anybody comparable to Manga SSBs will be baseline 3-A. Since Manga SSB is supposed to be roughly 10x Manga SSG.
 
Peter1129 said:
Anime BoG SSG Goku was 3-A for creating the Super Dense Energy Ball that was going to destroy Universe 7. He wasn't 3-A for his clash with Beerus. That was just a supporting feat was just high end 3-B. Though if this feat gets accepted as high end 3-B like the anime I'm pretty sure anybody comparable to Manga SSBs will be baseline 3-A. Since Manga SSB is supposed to be roughly 10x Manga SSG.
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Oh. Back to stay in middle for me again i guess
 
But yeah anyways I doubt the manga version of the universe destroying clash will be high end 3-B like the anime version. The only reason the anime version is high end 3-B is because they specifically said the universe will be destroyed in two and a half clashes if I remember correctly. Which would 5x away from baseline 3-A since it required both SSG Goku and casual Beerus to perform this feat. So yeah the manga version is just unquantifiably into 3-B rather than 5x away from baseline 3-A.
 
Peter1129 said:
But yeah anyways I doubt the manga version of the universe destroying clash will be high end 3-B like the anime version. The only reason the anime version is high end 3-B is because they specifically said the universe will be destroyed in two and a half clashes if I remember correctly. Which would 5x away from baseline 3-A since it required both SSG Goku and casual Beerus to perform this feat. So yeah the manga version is just unquantifiably into 3-B rather than 5x away from baseline 3-A.
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Pretty sure this is disregarding the 3 universe size thing

Edit: Also I absolutely hate how you guys keep making it seem like the timeframe is some extended period of time instead of the immediate threat that it is.
 
Are we also forgetting Goku clashes with a massive ki attack from a Beerus [who was using a lot more of his power than in a long time (probably since he fought Champa, which was going to completely neg U7) and actually wins if I remember correctly though this drains him of SSG] and would be supported by the GoDs treating universe busting as like no big deal and doing it from any random point seems to be no challenge so baseline 3A for them is objective downplay.


Also if we take Vegito Blue>=Beerus seriously in the manga (Toyotaro suggests the SK may be wrong but not explicitly) then we can scale CSSB (Completed SS Blue) to universal as he'd be above base Vegito and packed more power in his Hakai than the casual hits of Vegito Blue (though it should be noted Vegito was toying with Zamasu the whole time) let alone with Kaioken, further enhancing it for the ToP and then Ultra Instinct dwarfing its power.
 
Isn't SSG Manga Goku either very high 3-B or baseline 3-A. The fights in the manga and anime were essentially the same thing, besides the energy ball struggle and the wierd ki dragons.

@Peter1129 Why wouldn't shaking a macrocosm and threatening to destroy it in a few punches (or half of it) not put Goku at baseline 3-A? Or was that part not mentioned in the manga?
 
Holy shit, I'm literally doing a blog on this right now. Don't worry, once I'm done with the blog, we can finally have universal level DBS manga characters. For now, wait.
 
Also shouldn't ui manga goku be universe level+? As he beat jiren who is said in the manga to be stronger then his GoD who wasn't badly hurt by all the GoD in the free for all they had. Also beerus and champa were going to destroy both universe 6, universe 7 in the manga so beerus + champa is universe level+/low multiverse level
 
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