Gyomei Vs Upper Moon 3 Akaza Rematch (Demon Slayer) [5-0-0]

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Gyomei Vs Akaza

Battle Location: Derailed Mugen Train, 2 AM
Starting Distance: 30 Meters

Fight OST:


Gyomei: @Epyriel @Kavopaco @Bimbitesthedust @Machmatej @speedster352

Upper Moon 3:

 

[Epyriel]

The Hashria destroy him.

Gyomei alone, or arguably even Sanemi, individually outstat him, and with everyone else jumping him at the same time this isn’t going to be close.

Compass or no, Akaza is never going to get the chance to adapt.

The Hashira FRA.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

The Hashria destroy him.

Gyomei alone, or arguably even Sanemi, individually outstat him, and with everyone else jumping him at the same time this isn’t going to be close.

Compass or no, Akaza is never going to get the chance to adapt.

The Hashira FRA.

Man i thought Akaza cooking both Sanemi and Gyomei would still mean he can pull it off here

 

[Kavopaco]

Gyomei is enough LMAO. Anyways Hashiras FRA

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Gyomei is enough LMAO. Anyways Hashiras FRA

Bro Marked Gyomei LOST his last match against Akaza here

Also what can they do if he starts spamming Blue Silver Chaotic Afterglow

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Man i thought Akaza cooking both Sanemi and Gyomei would still mean he can pull it off here

in 1v1's

not in a jumping

Anyway hashiras win because there are two women in the group and Akaza's fumbling completely

 

[Kavopaco]

Bro Marked Gyomei LOST his last match against Akaza here

Also what can they do if he starts spamming Blue Silver Chaotic Afterglow

then do that Gyomei vs Akaza match again lol

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Bro Marked Gyomei LOST his last match against Akaza here

Also what can they do if he starts spamming Blue Silver Chaotic Afterglow

Ok but

Akaza still cannot win this because it'd at best be a stalemate due to Shinobu and Mitsuri or he loses because he's getting jumped hard so by the time Gyomei dies theres the other eight that whack him around and dunk him

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

then do that Gyomei vs Akaza match again lol

Is there even a case for it to get a rematch.

(GRACE) Akaza VS Gyomei (7-2-2)

Match Rules Both in Character Speed is not equal (May change if too unfair) Battle Location: Derailed Mugen Train, 2 AM Both in 8-A Keys Starting Distance: 30 Meters Gyomei is marked. Gyomei's wincon is Akaza fleeing since he really cant kill him. (Discussed Under) Akaza's wincon is by...

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Akaza VS Sanemi GRACE

Match Rules Both in Character Speed is Equalized Battle Location: Infinity Castle (Can be changed if too unfair, but I wouldn't suppose so since Sanemi possesses a Nichirin blade.) Both in 8-A Keys Battle Music Starting Distance: 10 Meters Sanemi is marked. Votes Upper Moon 3: 7 (@yqttlsx...

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in 1v1's

not in a jumping

Anyway hashiras win because there are two women in the group and Akaza's fumbling completely

I still want to know what they can do if he starts spamming the ridiculous full AOE attack

 

[Epyriel]

Man i thought Akaza cooking both Sanemi and Gyomei would still mean he can pull it off here

Yeah I want to remake those matches at some point, some of the arguments were rather dubious and I definitely feel the Hashira could have been argued better.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Yeah I want to remake those matches at some point, some of the arguments were rather dubious and I definitely feel the Hashira could have been argued better.

Ok so if this is cooked. Should I change this into a 1v1 or at the very least Gyomei and Sanemi Vs Akaza

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Is there even a case for it to get a rematch.

(GRACE) Akaza VS Gyomei (7-2-2)

Match Rules Both in Character Speed is not equal (May change if too unfair) Battle Location: Derailed Mugen Train, 2 AM Both in 8-A Keys Starting Distance: 30 Meters Gyomei is marked. Gyomei's wincon is Akaza fleeing since he really cant kill him. (Discussed Under) Akaza's wincon is by...

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Akaza VS Sanemi GRACE

Match Rules Both in Character Speed is Equalized Battle Location: Infinity Castle (Can be changed if too unfair, but I wouldn't suppose so since Sanemi possesses a Nichirin blade.) Both in 8-A Keys Battle Music Starting Distance: 10 Meters Sanemi is marked. Votes Upper Moon 3: 7 (@yqttlsx...

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I still want to know what they can do if he starts spamming the ridiculous full AOE attack

Have Mitsuri and Shinobu run up to him and make bro stop that



Straight up Shinobu and Mitsuri will be the reason Akaza loses hard because bros not gonna want to fight them and if bro shuts it down hes getting walloped by them or any hashira whos gonna jump him

 

[Epyriel]

Ok so if this is cooked. Should I change this into a 1v1 or at the very least Gyomei and Sanemi Vs Akaza

Personally I generally prefer to have fresh threads when changing topics so new people aren’t distracted by earlier out of topic posts, but up to you.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Ok so if this is cooked. Should I change this into a 1v1 or at the very least Gyomei and Sanemi Vs Akaza

either do that or make a new akaza matchup (throw him at a hxh character)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Personally I generally prefer to have fresh threads when changing topics so new people aren’t distracted by earlier out of topic posts, but up to you.

The stage is on you. Matchup changed. Do you have new arguments that the previous gyomei vs akaza match didnt discuss

 

[Epyriel]

The floor is on you. Matchup changed. Do you have new arguments that the previous gyomei vs akaza match didnt discuss

First off, Base Akaza is a perception blitz gap below Base Kokushibo that we see rather blatantly in the Hashira meeting (with Doma also similarly implying he could easily dodge any blow of Akaza’s, and that Akaza would never stand a chance against either of them), which means any kind of relativity to Gyomei is entirely dependent on his compass.

However even after gradually adapting over the course of the entire fight with Giyu and Tanjiro, his precognition-aided speed never gets far beyond that of Marked Giyu who managed to block most of his final form. Yet upon initial activation its boost is more marginal, with Base ICA Tanjiro being able to keep up with a fresh compass Akaza despite struggling with his speed before he activated his compass.

Considering TW + Marked Gyomei was relative to LS Kokushibo while Akaza was terrified of facing even Base Kokushibo whom Marked Gyomei could strongly compete with even before unlocking TW, the case that Akaza can adapt quickly enough to keep up with Gyomei (if he is even able to adapt that much at all) before Gyomei starts to smash him into pieces seems unlikely.

Once Gyomei starts pulping him with red spike flail, even if Akaza is able to survive being reduced to a smear by Gyomei’s regen-negation, he’s never really going to have an opportunity to recover and turn the match around. In this case (unlike Giyu and Tanjiro), Gyomei hasn’t been significantly injured to the point of being unable to continue if Akaza regenerates, and has already shown the stamina to keep pulping an opponent all the way to sunrise.

Voting Gyomei.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

First off, Base Akaza is a perception blitz gap below Base Kokushibo that we see rather blatantly in the Hashira meeting (with Doma also similarly implying he could easily dodge any blow of Akaza’s, and that Akaza would never stand a chance against either of them), which means any kind of relativity to Gyomei is entirely dependent on his compass.

However even after gradually adapting over the course of the entire fight with Giyu and Tanjiro, his precognition-aided speed never gets far beyond that of Marked Giyu who managed to block most of his final form. Yet upon initial activation its boost is more marginal, with Base ICA Tanjiro being able to keep up with a fresh compass Akaza despite struggling with his speed before he activated his compass.

Considering TW + Marked Gyomei was relative to LS Kokushibo while Akaza was terrified of facing even Base Kokushibo whom Marked Gyomei could strongly compete with even before unlocking TW, the case that Akaza can adapt quickly enough to keep up with Gyomei (if he is even able to adapt that much at all) before Gyomei starts to smash him into pieces seems unlikely.

Once Gyomei starts pulping him with red spike flail, even if Akaza is able to survive being reduced to a smear by Gyomei’s regen-negation, he’s never really going to have an opportunity to recover and turn the match around. In this case (unlike Giyu and Tanjiro), Gyomei hasn’t been significantly injured to the point of being unable to continue if Akaza regenerates, and has already shown the stamina to keep pulping an opponent all the way to sunrise.

Voting Gyomei.

Ok to play devils advocate (no pun intended) Akaza does seem to have a bit of a range advantage via the shockwaves that he can make, These shockwaves do seem to be pretty powerful with its danmaku and it being somewhat powerful given that he can shoot like a hundred of them. He can pepper Gyomei a good amount with his Shockwaves before compass needle

And on the topic of Compass Needle, Im not sure on how see through world works against it but Akaza can go precog for precog with Gyomei and considering that its got a million different passives like enhanced accuracy, reactive power level, etc Akaza can overwhelm Gyomei potentially with range and then Compass Needle

Gonna hold my vote so this doesnt count as one

 

[Kavopaco]

Voting gyomei for epy's reasons

 

[Epyriel]

Ok to play devils advocate (no pun intended) Akaza does seem to have a bit of a range advantage via the shockwaves that he can make, These shockwaves do seem to be pretty powerful with its danmaku and it being somewhat powerful given that he can shoot like a hundred of them. He can pepper Gyomei a good amount with his Shockwaves before compass needle

And on the topic of Compass Needle, Im not sure on how see through world works against it but Akaza can go precog for precog with Gyomei and considering that its got a million different passives like enhanced accuracy, reactive power level, etc Akaza can overwhelm Gyomei potentially with range and then Compass Needle

Gonna hold my vote so this doesnt count as one

Gyomei also has reactive power level, and frankly I just don’t see any way for compass to account for the massive gap between them without employing a NLF to stretch it way beyond what it could do against Giyu and Tanjiro.

Considering it gradually adapts to those he is fighting, and the total boost it gave against Giyu and Tanjiro was far less than what it needs against Gyomei yet Gyomei would give him even less time to adapt (having his EoS abilities from the outset rather than gradually acquiring them like with Giyu and Tanjiro, not to mention being far stronger and faster regardless to begin with from the outset) makes me think Akaza has zero shot at winning this.

Not to mention Akaza’s fear and refusal to even try to fight Base Kokushibo and Doma, both of whom he despises, makes me think he probably shares a similar assessment as to just how far his compass can go.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Gyomei also has reactive power level, and frankly I just don’t see any way for compass to account for the massive gap between them without employing a NLF to stretch it way beyond what it could do against Giyu and Tanjiro.

Considering it gradually adapts to those he is fighting, and the total boost it gave against Giyu and Tanjiro was far less than what it needs against Gyomei yet Gyomei would give him even less time to adapt (having his EoS abilities from the outset rather than gradually acquiring them like with Giyu and Tanjiro, not to mention being far stronger and faster regardless to begin with from the outset) makes me think Akaza has zero shot at winning this.

Not to mention Akaza’s fear and refusal to even try to fight Base Kokushibo and Doma, both of whom he despises, makes me think he probably shares a similar assessment as to just how far his compass can go.

Hmm I see

yeah throw Akaza at the wood chipper that is Gyomei

Gyomei FRA

 

[Machmatej]

Voting Gyomei FRA. Akaza's overrated.

 

[DemarSL]

Didn’t Gyomei block an angry koku that tried to blitz him? I rarely see people bring that up unless there’s context to it. Can akaza even do this lol

 

[speedster352]

Gyomei fra

 

[GodEarh206]

Gyomei destroy him bro

 

[Shadowslash125]

Gyomei FRA

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Gyomei FRA. Unironically Sanemi would be a more reasonable fight for Akaza and even then he'd be struggling really badly.

 

[AppleMaker]

Gyomei FRA

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Voting Akaza, so we can get the Brazil.

 

[Thermor]

I wonder tho, could Gyomei actually bypass Akaza's regen? Considering Akaza is resistant to regen negation.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I wonder tho, could Gyomei actually bypass Akaza's regen? Considering Akaza is resistant to regen negation.

No

Also someone can add this match

Btw new match here

Tanjiro Kamado Vs Gyomei Himejima (Demon Slayer) [1-0-0]

Tanjiro Kamado Vs Gyomei Himejima Speed is equalized Gyomei starts off in Mark Sunrise Countdown Tanjiro is used Both are bloodlusted Fight takes place in Akaza's waterfall arena from Movie 1 Fight OST: Tanjiro Kamado: Gyomei Himejima:

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[Machmatej]

I wonder tho, could Gyomei actually bypass Akaza's regen? Considering Akaza is resistant to regen negation.

the difference between tanjiro's hinokami kagura and a red blade, in this case, a red chained ball, is immense.

 

[Yusuf21259]

I started a thread about this before, but it never came to a conclusion. Yes, it was clear Gyomei would win. They acted as if Akaza's abilities were flawless, but we saw that Akaza's adaptation process on the battlefield wasn't instantaneous. His technique wasn't perfect either, because he took many blows and had limbs severed. Gyomei proved he was superior to all Hashiras in his fight with Kokushibo. Comparing Gyomei to Hashiras who put Akaza through so much trouble in both fights is illogical. Those who argue that Akaza will continue even after his head is cut off – yes, this will happen a few times, but it will never happen forever. You will see that Akaza's defenses and movements become unbalanced from the moment his head is cut off. Meanwhile, Gyomei has the stamina to keep crushing his head. After this, Akaza will experience an emotional breakdown and his regeneration will stop. It will be a difficult match for Gyomei, but he will win. Gyomei fra