The Hashiras Vs Upper Moon 1 Kokushibo (Demon Slayer) [9-10-0]

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Hashiras Vs Kokushibo

Fight takes place in Mugen Train
Three hours till sun rise

Fight OST:


Hashiras: @Machmatej @speedster352 @CastoriceTheFifth @Bimbitesthedust @Naito-desu @karo_senpaii @Catbowtie @MannyQ361 @Fallen_Angelicx

Upper Moon 1: @Epyriel @Kavopaco @EnderLord8 @Arkenis @AthelChan @speedster352 @GodEarh206 @XSOULOFCINDERX @Lort15 @Robo432343

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Pre speed blitz

 

[Epyriel]

Assuming the Hashira get all of their E.o.S. abilities, then Gyomei and Sanemi alone should be able to push Kokushibo into his LS Form just like in the actual fight.

Having 6 more Hashira should probably compensate for the lack of Genya’s BDA pining Kokushibo in place, so I’d be willing to say they might even cut his head off just like in the actual fight.

But after that, unless Kokushibo has another plot-induced depression episode, none of them are fast enough to really deal with Monster Form Kokushibo. Especially considering they are in his arena, which means they would need to cut him into tiny pieces using red blades (like Yoriichi planned to do to Muzan) in order to actually put him down for good. Considering Monster Form Kokushibo seemingly blitzed even Marked Gyomei, that doesn’t seem likely.

Voting Kokushibo.

 

[Lort15]

koku wins with aura farming

 

[Catbowtie]

I thought Hashira would cook Kokushibo but Epyriel is onto something with Monster Kokushibo. I don’t even think the Hashira can kill Kokushibo, yea? Immunity to decapitation and red Nichirin blades. Only way they can kill him is sunlight, but that won’t happen.

Looks like a Stomp for Kokushibo. Who would’ve known post-Yoriichi depression was the real reason Kokushibo lost.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I thought Hashira would cook Kokushibo but Epyriel is onto something with Monster Kokushibo. I don’t even think the Hashira can kill Kokushibo, yea? Immunity to decapitation and red Nichirin blades. Only way they can kill him is sunlight, but that won’t happen.

Looks like a Stomp for Kokushibo. Who would’ve known post-Yoriichi depression was the real reason Kokushibo lost.

Ngl I interpreted that page as him not fully able to regenerate his head properly like Akaza. Do I change this to a stall till sunrise arena and if so how many hours left

 

[EnderLord8]

It's kind of funny that Yoriichi cooked Muzan while he had Kokushibo in his arsenal and the rest of the moons and Kokushibo alone cooks all the hashiras, Yoriichi literally solos his own verse

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

It's kind of funny that Yoriichi cooked Muzan while he had Kokushibo in his arsenal and the rest of the moons and Kokushibo alone cooks all the hashiras, Yoriichi literally solos his own verse

We can test this out by using the hashira team profile, muzan, and the kamaboko team profile vs Yoriichi

 

[Machmatej]

Do I change this to a stall till sunrise arena and if so how many hours left

This might be the move. I'd say maybe 3 hours until sunrise?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

This might be the move. I'd say maybe 3 hours until sunrise?

There

 

[Machmatej]

I'd give it to the Hashira. Sure Kokushibo can blitz in his monster form, but even if that's something he can do at will (he can't), it's something that would be saved as a last resort. If Sanemi and Gyomei alone were able to put up a fight, I have no doubt that the other Hashira helping them would be able to create an opening for someone to decapitate him with a red blade. Kokushibo would be overwhelmed, stabbed on all sides by red blades, slowed down and weakened even more by Shinobu's poison and Sanemi's marechi blood, and I don't even think he'd have a chance to evolve and transform. And if he did, he'd probably be a fair bit weaker than he was in the canon fight, and without being able to use a BDA, at the very least I'd say they can hold him until sunrise.


Voting Hashira.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Assuming the Hashira get all of their E.o.S. abilities, then Gyomei and Sanemi alone should be able to push Kokushibo into his LS Form just like in the actual fight.

Having 6 more Hashira should probably compensate for the lack of Genya’s BDA pining Kokushibo in place, so I’d be willing to say they might even cut his head off just like in the actual fight.

But after that, unless Kokushibo has another plot-induced depression episode, none of them are fast enough to really deal with Monster Form Kokushibo. Especially considering they are in his arena, which means they would need to cut him into tiny pieces using red blades (like Yoriichi planned to do to Muzan) in order to actually put him down for good. Considering Monster Form Kokushibo seemingly blitzed even Marked Gyomei, that doesn’t seem likely.

Voting Kokushibo.

I thought Hashira would cook Kokushibo but Epyriel is onto something with Monster Kokushibo. I don’t even think the Hashira can kill Kokushibo, yea? Immunity to decapitation and red Nichirin blades. Only way they can kill him is sunlight, but that won’t happen.

Looks like a Stomp for Kokushibo. Who would’ve known post-Yoriichi depression was the real reason Kokushibo lost.

Any vote changes or nah

 

[Epyriel]

This might be the move. I'd say maybe 3 hours until sunrise?

Any vote changes or nah

This at least gives the Hashira a fighting chance, but I’d still give it to Kokushibo. Moon Breathing is pretty good at stacking up cuts over time through the sheer volume of projectiles, and serves as a decent AoE option.

A lot of the weaker Hashira like Tengen, Mitsuri and Rengoku won’t be able to contribute much due to the sheer difference in speed, while the likes of Giyu, Obanai and Shinobu won’t fare any better than Sanemi who was gradually worn down even at significant range.

The real Kokushibo battle seemed to me to be a fairly short affair that quickly racked up injuries, and I don’t see the Hashira lasting three full hours against Monster Form Kokushibo.

 

[speedster352]

This at least gives the Hashira a fighting chance, but I’d still give it to Kokushibo. Moon Breathing is pretty good at stacking up cuts over time through the sheer volume of projectiles, and serves as a decent AoE option.

A lot of the weaker Hashira like Tengen, Mitsuri and Rengoku won’t be able to contribute much due to the sheer difference in speed, while the likes of Giyu, Obanai and Shinobu won’t fare any better than Sanemi who was gradually worn down even at significant range.

The real Kokushibo battle seemed to me to be a fairly short affair that quickly racked up injuries, and I don’t see the Hashira lasting three full hours against Monster Form Kokushibo.

Wouldn’t dead calm help Giyu survive? Also wouldn’t combined attacks help counter his attacks like they did to weakened muzan. Let’s not underestimate their endurance.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I just realized. Why does Sanemi naturally carry oil and matches on him

 

[Epyriel]

Wouldn’t dead calm help Giyu survive? Also wouldn’t combined attacks help counter his attacks like they did to weakened muzan. Let’s not underestimate their endurance.

2nd Drug Muzan was slow enough for the likes of Inosuke to perceive him (who got badly perception blitzed by UM2) so Kokushibo should be significantly faster, yet even this Muzan was enough to land occasional blows against them.

And yeah Dead Calm might help from a distance, and combination attacks might help split his focus, but at the end of the day a Kokushibo has the speed and the abilities to consistently wear down even the strongest Hashira, I don’t see the rest lasting 3 hours when Sanemi, Gyomei and Muichiro could last only a matter of minutes.

 

[speedster352]

Also the red blades should work here in canon the stab muichiro did actually damaged upper moon1.

 

[Kavopaco]

Koku FRA

 

[AthelChan]

pollowing.

 

[speedster352]

Voting the hashira

 

[EnderLord8]

I will vote the same as I voted last time

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I will vote the same as I voted last time

But you never casted a vote

 

[EnderLord8]

But you never casted a vote

exactly

 

[EnderLord8]

But seriously, I vote for kokushibo

 

[AthelChan]

what are the wincons.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

what are the wincons.

This at least gives the Hashira a fighting chance, but I’d still give it to Kokushibo. Moon Breathing is pretty good at stacking up cuts over time through the sheer volume of projectiles, and serves as a decent AoE option.

A lot of the weaker Hashira like Tengen, Mitsuri and Rengoku won’t be able to contribute much due to the sheer difference in speed, while the likes of Giyu, Obanai and Shinobu won’t fare any better than Sanemi who was gradually worn down even at significant range.

The real Kokushibo battle seemed to me to be a fairly short affair that quickly racked up injuries, and I don’t see the Hashira lasting three full hours against Monster Form Kokushibo.

I'd give it to the Hashira. Sure Kokushibo can blitz in his monster form, but even if that's something he can do at will (he can't), it's something that would be saved as a last resort. If Sanemi and Gyomei alone were able to put up a fight, I have no doubt that the other Hashira helping them would be able to create an opening for someone to decapitate him with a red blade. Kokushibo would be overwhelmed, stabbed on all sides by red blades, slowed down and weakened even more by Shinobu's poison and Sanemi's marechi blood, and I don't even think he'd have a chance to evolve and transform. And if he did, he'd probably be a fair bit weaker than he was in the canon fight, and without being able to use a BDA, at the very least I'd say they can hold him until sunrise.


Voting Hashira.

Also the red blades should work here in canon the stab muichiro did actually damaged upper moon1.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

I just realized. Why does Sanemi naturally carry oil and matches on him

He gets the demons to oil up before he kills them

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Hashira FRA

 

[Lort15]

Hashira bullies wtf

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Hashira bullies wtf

Is this a vote

 

[Lort15]

Is this a vote

nah i will watch for a while

 

[Catbowtie]

I come back to this match and the Hashira are somehow in the lead when it comes to votes.

How are the Hashira supposed to kill Kokushbio here? Red Nichirin Blades don't work on him. He's immune to decapitation. If Kokushibo's scared of the sunlight, he can run. Nothing the Hashira can do to stop that.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I come back to this match and the Hashira are somehow in the lead when it comes to votes.

How are the Hashira supposed to kill Kokushbio here? Red Nichirin Blades don't work on him. He's immune to decapitation. If Kokushibo's scared of the sunlight, he can run. Nothing the Hashira can do to stop that.

Also the red blades should work here in canon the stab muichiro did actually damaged upper moon1.

 

[Catbowtie]

Kokushibo regenerated right after no issue

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Kokushibo regenerated right after no issue

It still greatly affects him and all the marked hashiras have to do is to clash blades to insta turn them red

 

[Arkenis]

off Aura alone, Kokushibou fra and frb.

On a real note, I'm not sure who's keeping up with Gyomei and Sanemi without unlocking their marks soon and even then, Kokushibou held back for quite a while on them iirc. If he decides the numbers are too many, why won't he blitz 7 of them and one shot? I can see Giyu or Kanroji staying alive besides Gyomei maybe? But yeah voting for Kokushibou just off danmaku and speed blitzing

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

off Aura alone, Kokushibou fra and frb.

On a real note, I'm not sure who's keeping up with Gyomei and Sanemi without unlocking their marks soon and even then, Kokushibou held back for quite a while on them iirc. If he decides the numbers are too many, why won't he blitz 7 of them and one shot? I can see Giyu or Kanroji staying alive besides Gyomei maybe? But yeah voting for Kokushibou just off danmaku and speed blitzing

Isnt there a thing in the verse where if one guys next to another w a mark its easier to awaken it?

pretty sure it will be infested with marks because multiple people in the group have marks right?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

off Aura alone, Kokushibou fra and frb.

On a real note, I'm not sure who's keeping up with Gyomei and Sanemi without unlocking their marks soon and even then, Kokushibou held back for quite a while on them iirc. If he decides the numbers are too many, why won't he blitz 7 of them and one shot? I can see Giyu or Kanroji staying alive besides Gyomei maybe? But yeah voting for Kokushibou just off danmaku and speed blitzing

All the hashiras have their EOS stuff so 6 of them already has a mark, STW, red blade shinenigans, etc.

Isnt there a thing in the verse where if one guys next to another w a mark its easier to awaken it?

pretty sure it will be infested with marks because multiple people in the group have marks right?

I mean yeah this is a thing. Its possible but then again no one in the kamaboko squad manifested a mark in the Muzan fight.

 

[AthelChan]

im voting for the 6 eyed fella

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

im voting for the 6 eyed fella

But Gojo isnt here