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Yoriichi Tsugikuni Vs Muzan Kibutsuji (Demon Slayer) [9-4-0]

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Yoriichi Tsugikuni Vs Muzan Kibutsuji

Speed is unequalized
Fight takes place in Infinity Fortress
Muzan gets half an hour prep time
Muzan will utilize his standard equipment
Doma is bloodlusted
Winner via death

Fight OST:


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Strongest Demon Slayer: @Detective_Blizzard, @Arkenis, @Catbowtie, @Jackof_noTrades068, @Ebihara, @Kavopaco, @GodEarh206 @Passersby @Epiccheev

King of Demons: @Machmatej, @NikHelton, @DarthSorox @CastoriceTheFifth
 
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Btw I asked before hand what should the conditions be. Would be real funny if Yoriichi ends up no diffing still.
 
Due to SBA, Muzan isn't leaving the fight because he sees no chance of beating Yoriichi. So victory via waiting is out of the question.

NGL, most of Muzan's 'equipment' is actually worthless here. Yoriichi is either blitzing them, or blitzing them with Transparent World.

All of the lower ranks are obviously not a factor, they are all Overwhelming Aura and speedblized into oblivion. Enmu is the only one with a power worth mentioning however Yoriichi's..... everything makes it a non-factor.


Upper ranks meanwhile.... yeah no he's still washing all of them. Him on his death bed and dying of old age nearly killed Kokushibo in one shot and this is a prime version. None of them have abilities that seem like a real challenge to Yoriichi other than Nakime. Given Yoriichi's stupidly faster speeds, intelligence, and his aura, I find it unlikely that Nakime holds him back for long since there's good odds he just instinctively figures out Nakime's behind all the infinity castle stuff and tries to kill her first. Plus nobody is holding him back long enough to warrant a stamina lost from it. (Not with HIS stamina)

So uh, yeah, Muzan dies of PTSD is my vote
 
Detective_Blizzard said:
Due to SBA, Muzan isn't leaving the fight because he sees no chance of beating Yoriichi. So victory via waiting is out of the question.

NGL, most of Muzan's 'equipment' is actually worthless here. Yoriichi is either blitzing them, or blitzing them with Transparent World.

All of the lower ranks are obviously not a factor, they are all Overwhelming Aura and speedblized into oblivion. Enmu is the only one with a power worth mentioning however Yoriichi's..... everything makes it a non-factor.


Upper ranks meanwhile.... yeah no he's still washing all of them. Him on his death bed and dying of old age nearly killed Kokushibo in one shot and this is a prime version. None of them have abilities that seem like a real challenge to Yoriichi other than Nakime. Given Yoriichi's stupidly faster speeds, intelligence, and his aura, I find it unlikely that Nakime holds him back for long since there's good odds he just instinctively figures out Nakime's behind all the infinity castle stuff and tries to kill her first. Plus nobody is holding him back long enough to warrant a stamina lost from it. (Not with HIS stamina)

So uh, yeah, Muzan dies of PTSD is my vote
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Is this a stomp or a really decisive win
 
Basically what Detective Blizzard said
I don’t really see how Yoriichi ever loses unless he jobs and decides to stand still given his speed edge

Doma could possibly do something if he starts freezing Yoriichi’s lungs with his gas or whatever but he could likely get blitzed and killed
 
I feel like Muzan has a shot here. If I recall correctly, you need a body temperature of 39 degrees celsius to activate a demon slayer mark. I don't know if Yoriichi's special in this case, but could Doma's BDA lower his body temperature enough to cancel the mark? Because if so, I'd imagine he'd lose the STW and a significant percentage of his speed. Muzan and the other Kizuki should at least be able to keep Yoriichi off Doma long enough for him to use his BDA.
 
Machmatej said:
I feel like Muzan has a shot here. If I recall correctly, you need a body temperature of 39 degrees celsius to activate a demon slayer mark. I don't know if Yoriichi's special in this case, but could Doma's BDA lower his body temperature enough to cancel the mark? Because if so, I'd imagine he'd lose the STW and a significant percentage of his speed. Muzan and the other Kizuki should at least be able to keep Yoriichi off Doma long enough for him to use his BDA.
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is it the initial activation or constant state
 
Machmatej said:
If I recall correctly, you need a body temperature of 39 degrees celsius to activate a demon slayer mark. I don't know if Yoriichi's special in this case, but could Doma's BDA lower his body temperature enough to cancel the mark?
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Yoriichi is a special case to the mark, he was born with it, benefited from it all his life, and survived to 85 with it so its unlikely that he applies to this as he's shown to break all the other rules.
 
Catbowtie said:
Yoriichi could unironically do the same thing as Muichiro did and blow away Doma's mist using his Breathing Style.
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True, but he'd have to do that while getting jumped. There'd be a swarm of moon blades, shockwaves, blood sickles, and other projectiles all coming at him. It's not like they're coming at him one by one. Also is anything stopping Nakime from teleporting him to a bottomless pit or something?
 
Machmatej said:
True, but he'd have to do that while getting jumped. There'd be a swarm of moon blades, shockwaves, blood sickles, and other projectiles all coming at him. It's not like they're coming at him one by one. Also is anything stopping Nakime from teleporting him to a bottomless pit or something?
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Muzan also controls the fortress too just wanna add that

 
Detective_Blizzard said:
Yoriichi is a special case to the mark, he was born with it, benefited from it all his life, and survived to 85 with it so its unlikely that he applies to this as he's shown to break all the other rules.
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Yes, I know. He could be an exception to this, but he could also just have a naturally high body temperature and fast heartbeat.
 
Machmatej said:
True, but he'd have to do that while getting jumped. There'd be a swarm of moon blades, shockwaves, blood sickles, and other projectiles all coming at him. It's not like they're coming at him one by one. Also is anything stopping Nakime from teleporting him to a bottomless pit or something?
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I'm going to keep it a stack with you chief.

Yoriichi finds a way out.
 
Actually, wait, SBA puts everyone at peaks. The demon mark requirements are irrelevant since Yoriichi just starts with it activated

Machmatej said:
Also is anything stopping Nakime from teleporting him to a bottomless pit or something?
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Overwhelming Aura and speed, Nakime is going to be in no state to teleport him out as she's paralyzed and taking damage from that.

CastoriceTheFifth said:
Muzan also controls the fortress too just wanna add that
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Unironically dont think he'll pull it off fast enough given his own fear, Yoriichi's intelligence honestly helps solidify his chances since he'd VERY quickly figure out which demon is responsible for the castle
 
Detective_Blizzard said:
Actually, wait, SBA puts everyone at peaks. The demon mark requirements are irrelevant since Yoriichi just starts with it activated


Overwhelming Aura and speed, Nakime is going to be in no state to teleport him out as she's paralyzed and taking damage from that.


Unironically dont think he'll pull it off fast enough given his own fear, Yoriichi's intelligence honestly helps solidify his chances since he'd VERY quickly figure out which demon is responsible for the castle
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How would the overwhelming aura work if Nakime is too far away to feel it? And Yoriichi doesn't have a natural overwhelming aura, as far as I know, Both Muzan and Tamayo were unfazed by his presence during the first encounter. And Kokushibo wasn't necessarily afraid of him either, even years after Muzan got PTSD from him.
 
Machmatej said:
How would the overwhelming aura work if Nakime is too far away to feel it? And Yoriichi doesn't have a natural overwhelming aura, as far as I know, Both Muzan and Tamayo were unfazed by his presence during the first encounter. And Kokushibo wasn't necessarily afraid of him either, even years after Muzan got PTSD from it.
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Was Yoriichi in selfless state or not
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Actually doesn't this depend on whether or not Yoriichi is in selfless state or not
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While he started with Selfless against Muzan in history first encounter, he's shown after that event to use the aura as seen with Kokushibo. Given the numbers advantage the demons have he'd likely start with the aura to easily deal with the weaker ones before leaving Selfless for ones that survive the initial barrage.

Machmatej said:
And Yoriichi doesn't have a natural overwhelming aura, as far as I know, Both Muzan and Tamayo were unfazed by his presence during the first encounter. And Kokushibo wasn't necessarily afraid of him either, even years after Muzan got PTSD from him.
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Yoriichi has it listed on his profile and Kokushibo specifically mentions the weight of his aura. The only reason why Muzan and Tamayo were unfazed was because of Selfless State.

Machmatej said:
How would the overwhelming aura work if Nakime is too far away to feel it?
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Peak Yoriichi is blitzing characters who are faster than Nakime, he's going to be in range in no time with the sheer gap he has

CastoriceTheFifth said:
Was Yoriichi in selfless state or not
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Never stated for Kokushibo I think, if he was than Jesus that aura is absurd if Selfless State can't even hold that back
 
Detective_Blizzard said:
The only reason why Muzan and Tamayo were unfazed was because of Selfless State.
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When was it stated or implied for him to be in the selfless state during his first encounter with Muzan? And what reason would Yoriichi have to hold back his battle spirit in any way, when he was fighting his most hated and most powerful enemy?

Detective_Blizzard said:
Peak Yoriichi is blitzing characters who are faster than Nakime, he's going to be in range in no time with the sheer gap he has
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You're greatly underestimating Nakime, or greatly overestimating Yoriichi. Nakime can be kilometers away, surrounded by layers of buildings, or in a labyrinth, or just straight up on the ceiling. Yoriichi could straight up have no idea Nakime is even there, if she and the demons play their cards right.
Detective_Blizzard said:
Never stated for Kokushibo I think, if he was than Jesus that aura is absurd if Selfless State can't even hold that back
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If Yoriichi can't hold back his aura with the selfless state, then isn't that a blatant weakness? And Muzan would've felt it, at least a little, if even Kokushibo felt like there were boulders on his shoulders.
 
Machmatej said:
When was it stated or implied for him to be in the selfless state during his first encounter with Muzan? And what reason would Yoriichi have to hold back his battle spirit in any way, when he was fighting his most hated and most powerful enemy?
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it was stated and implied right here lol

Machmatej said:
You're greatly underestimating Nakime, or greatly overestimating Yoriichi. Nakime can be kilometers away, surrounded by layers of buildings, or in a labyrinth, or just straight up on the ceiling. Yoriichi could straight up have no idea Nakime is even there, if she and the demons play their cards right.
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inosuke felt the presence of a demon an entire mountan range away in season 1 by feeling the air vibrations on his skin

Yoriichi is noting her position quite easily
 
Machmatej said:
When was it stated or implied for him to be in the selfless state during his first encounter with Muzan? And what reason would Yoriichi have to hold back his battle spirit in any way, when he was fighting his most hated and most powerful enemy?
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Yes, Yoriichi was in selfless state during the first encounter. As for the reason to hold back the fighting spirit, it's because of the literal benefits of Selfless State as it prevents several abilities being used.

Machmatej said:
You're greatly underestimating Nakime, or greatly overestimating Yoriichi. Nakime can be kilometers away, surrounded by layers of buildings, or in a labyrinth, or just straight up on the ceiling. Yoriichi could straight up have no idea Nakime is even there, if she and the demons play their cards right.
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If Nakime is somehow not in range then Yoriichi would just use selfless state to avoid her detection. He's fully capable of blitzing the other demons and then immediately hiding before she can react

Machmatej said:
If Yoriichi can't hold back his aura with the selfless state, then isn't that a blatant weakness? And Muzan would've felt it, at least a little, if even Kokushibo felt like there were boulders on his shoulders.
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That's IF he can't do it, which given previous examples is unlikely since he's done so.
Passersby said:
inosuke felt the presence of a demon an entire mountan range away in season 1 by feeling the air vibrations on his skin

Yoriichi is noting her position quite easily
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^

Unironically he has every advantage if she's not in visable range since he can just hide his presence, so its either the combatants are close enough to be blitzed or so far away that they can't even find him
 
Passersby said:
it was stated and implied right here lol
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My bad then.

Passersby said:
inosuke felt the presence of a demon an entire mountan range away in season 1 by feeling the air vibrations on his skin

Yoriichi is noting her position quite easily
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That's an Inosuke thing, but still, "infinity" castle means infinite. I'd also chalk that off to the demon being incredibly easy to spot. Inosuke himself, including the Hashira and others like Tanjiro, weren't capable of detecting Nakime's eyes, despite them being pretty much everywhere, on the same mountain, same training range, same everything.

Even if she's in close proximity, she can still put herself in a position that can't be reached. Like, I don't know, a few thousand meters in the sky, on a floating platform, or surrounded by a jungle of buildings. The possibilities are pretty much endless.

Detective_Blizzard said:
If Nakime is somehow not in range then Yoriichi would just use selfless state to avoid her detection.

Unironically he has every advantage if she's not in visable range since he can just hide his presence
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Nakime can make like a million eyes, that can be anywhere, but also incredibly hard to notice. I'd imagine it would be especially hard to detect them when the aura of 12 other demons is flooding the place, some even stronger than Nakime herself. Possibly even thousands of demons if we account for all the lower moon level fodder that could be there.
 
Machmatej said:
That's an Inosuke thing, but still, "infinity" castle means infinite. I'd also chalk that off to the demon being incredibly easy to spot. Inosuke himself, including the Hashira and others like Tanjiro, weren't capable of detecting Nakime's eyes, despite them being pretty much everywhere, on the same mountain, same training range, same everything.
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i honestly beleive Yoriichi has the senses required to locate them, but that's debatable i guess


Machmatej said:
Even if she's in close proximity, she can still put herself in a position that can't be reached. Like, I don't know, a few thousand meters in the sky, on a floating platform, or surrounded by a jungle of buildings. The possibilities are pretty much endless.
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pretty sure he can just jump or use smth like thunder breathing to reach and blitz her anyways
 
Passersby said:
pretty sure he can just jump or use smth like thunder breathing to reach and blitz her anyways
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While he's busy fighting the other demons and/or not falling into an endless abyss? No, his main focus would be Muzan or Kokushibo. If he can locate her at all, he probably wouldn't care at all but ig that's arguable.
 
Machmatej said:
That's an Inosuke thing, but still, "infinity" castle means infinite.
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The infinity castle isn't considered an infinite sized structure, if that were the cast then every character scaling to Nakime's control over it would be stupidly higher.

Machmatej said:
Inosuke himself, including the Hashira and others like Tanjiro, weren't capable of detecting Nakime's eyes, despite them being pretty much everywhere, on the same mountain, same training range, same everything.
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"Able to sense the presence of others and malicious intent, this can be used to differentiate humans and demons, determine how strong someone is to a certain extent, or detect an enemy in the vicinity, vastly superior to the Hashira about whom Muzan stated that they could detect an Upper Rank in the Entertainment District right away"

Yoriichi built different

Machmatej said:
Even if she's in close proximity, she can still put herself in a position that can't be reached. Like, I don't know, a few thousand meters in the sky, on a floating platform, or surrounded by a jungle of buildings. The possibilities are pretty much endless.
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"Close Proximity"

"a few thousand meters"

Do I need to explain why that sentence is contradictory? It's either she's close enough to actually see him and gets blitzed or she's so far away she can't tell where the hell she is, with any eyes she makes trying to find him just getting casually neg-diffed. (Which no, she couldn't use to really keep track of him due to the sheer level of blitzing he's on compared to her. She's gonna lose him just as quickly as her eye gets destroyed)

Machmatej said:
Nakime can make like a million eyes, that can be anywhere, but also incredibly hard to notice. I'd imagine it would be especially hard to detect them when the aura of 12 other demons is flooding the place, some even stronger than Nakime herself. Possibly even thousands of demons if we account for all the lower moon level fodder that could be there.
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Yoriichi's senses are built different, most of those 12 demons aren't even lasting 10 seconds, and the "thousands of demons" aren't apart of Muzan's equipment and are thus not a factor.

Plus, this is Muzan vs Yoriichi. The fight don't end when Nakime dies, it's when the boss does.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Wait really? Is there any point of that new Muzan weakness then lol
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It's not a weakness it's just specifics lol, since the win condition is death and Muzan is the combatant that means he loses once he dies. If Yoriichi ignores literally everyone else and just kills him then it'd be a win.

Fights where an entire team is considered equipment is weird, NGL
 
Machmatej said:
While he's busy fighting the other demons and/or not falling into an endless abyss? No, his main focus would be Muzan or Kokushibo. If he can locate her at all, he probably wouldn't care at all but ig that's arguable.
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bro is not gonna busy fighting anyone, he just blitzes them along the way
 
Detective_Blizzard said:
It's not a weakness it's just specifics lol, since the win condition is death and Muzan is the combatant that means he loses once he dies. If Yoriichi ignores literally everyone else and just kills him then it'd be a win.

Fights where an entire team is considered equipment is weird, NGL
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Muzan is the new Makima fr. Anyways under any normal fight, Muzan would probably only summon like 1-2 demons lol
 
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