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The Strongest Solider vs The Strongest Devil Hunter (GRACE)

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ya levi aint getting by that. With home field advtange and being able to zip around shooting lighting spears. I only seen the csm anime but IMO levi is more skilled and would take it if had to just melee it out.
 
Ebihara said:
ya levi aint getting by that. With home field advtange and being able to zip around shooting lighting spears. I only seen the csm anime but IMO levi is more skilled and would take it if had to just melee it out.
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I don't think marley can be considered home field advantage for Levi. Iirc he fought there once. Plus Kishibe does have a higher intelligence rating, and I do think he's more skilled in general, he definitely has the BIQ advantage too.

Also marley being dense with buildings and such would be a double edged sword for Levi. Because while he's zipping around marley, Kishibe could easily disappear from his sight with his stealth mastery

The biggest advantage that Kishibe has is that he can one shot levi but levi can't one shot him. Kishibe can one shot with both his punches and especially his knives. While Levi's AP with his swords is 37 tons, Kishibe massively upscales from 9 tons so the difference should be less than 4x, a long way from the 8x requirement of a one shot. Even thunder spears might not one shot, not that they'd land anyway. I think this advantage in stats along with the skill advantage from Kishibe would give him the win.

I'm voting Kishibe for now
 
Razor said:
I don't think marley can be considered home field advantage for Levi. Iirc he fought there once. Plus Kishibe does have a higher intelligence rating, and I do think he's more skilled in general, he definitely has the BIQ advantage too.
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He lives in the nation of marely, its littearly his home. Even if he spends a lot of time out of the walls.
 
Ebihara said:
He lives in the nation of marely, its littearly his home. Even if he spends a lot of time out of the walls.
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He lived there after the events of AoT when he's a retired soldier thats bound to a wheelchair. Are you confusing Marley with Paradis? Paradis is where Levi lived for the entire series.
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Like I am assuming its the city area but like it does have very open fields and shit.
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Well if the fight goes there the ODM gear is basically useless, which would be a massive disadvantage for Levi. Like I said wherever the match takes place is gonna be a benefit for kishibe. If its in the city area he gets to sneak around, if its in the open fields ODM is almost useless.
 
Tbf

4x is pretty massive when dealing with a sharp edged weapon, it's still gonna be dealing fatal wounds depending where it hits, just like an actual blade.
 
Razor said:
He lived there after the events of AoT when he's a retired soldier thats bound to a wheelchair. Are you confusing Marley with Paradis? Paradis is where Levi lived for the entire series.
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oh ya youre right sorry. ya even without home field my vote stays the same.
 
Chariot190 said:
Tbf

4x is pretty massive when dealing with a sharp edged weapon, it's still gonna be dealing fatal wounds depending where it hits, just like an actual blade.
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It is, but Kishibe could just parry with his knives which has far higher durability. Imo Kishibe is more skilled, but even if we say they're of equal skill, that means they're gonna be hitting each other roughly the same amount of times. And Kishibe would win in that exchange.

The only difference maker here is the thunder spears but with Kishibe's senses and skill, it has a very low chance of landing.
 
Ebihara said:
oh ya youre right sorry. ya even without home field my vote stays the same.
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What reasons again? Levi being more skilled is dubious and the disparity in stats gives Kishibe a massive advantage if Levi decides to go for CQC.
 
Has Kishibe gotten recent skill feats?
Idk why i thought his ass died
 
Im like 90% sure Levi def outskills if we're only going by Part 1, at least in direct CQC.

And a 4x AP sword is def one shotting, surface area a *****, that's like just being cut with a sword irl, it's going to gut you.

The ranged and stealth is an issue so i wont vote yet but in CQC im like 90% leaning towards levi.
 
Razor said:
What reasons again? Levi being more skilled is dubious and the disparity in stats gives Kishibe a massive advantage if Levi decides to go for CQC.
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ya skill is pretty subjective. but I think under estaimting odm zooming around at angles that are going to be really diffcult to deal with and . I dont think this is an easy victory though for levi. Ill take vote back now cause I would like a more spefeic area then an entire country. Cause like if its a open field then like...
 
Chariot190 said:
Im like 90% sure Levi def outskills if we're only going by Part 1, at least in direct CQC.

And a 4x AP sword is def one shotting, surface area a *****, that's like just being cut with a sword irl, it's going to gut you.

The ranged and stealth is an issue so i wont vote yet but in CQC im like 90% leaning towards levi.
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Levi hasn't really fought against anyone like Kishibe in CQC tho. His experience against titans doesn't matter a whole lot here, the closest is kenny and he also had ODM gear. Meanwhile CQC is like all Kishibe does.

I doubt Levi is ever gonna get that clean of a shot against Kishibe. Plus the issue is kishibe has knives as well. His punches will one shot too. Also aren't the swords relatively flimsy? They break during missions thats why they carry spares with them. I imagine that they'll break under the repeated stress from Kishibe's attacks if the fight were to go in CQC and they're constantly parrying against each other, as ODM isn't really made for that.

It's also entirely possible given his intelligence that kishibe targets the ODM gear in general, if it breaks, no zooming around for Levi. Even if Levi was more skilled kishibe is so much stronger that I'm still leaning on him winning that exchange (taking into account the ODM blades breaking too).

I also think Kishibe has better stamina and pain tolerance. Levi's ankle sprain affected him in the annie fight (iirc) while Kishibe just casually talks with a massive gash on his cheek. Ik they're two very different injuries but Kishibe just feels like the more resilient fighter to me, getting pushed by quanxi and falling down multiplees floors didn't even faze him
 
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How long can Levi zip around before his ODM runs out of juice ?
 
Anyway, even tho Levi has better mobility and range, all of his options, from the ODM to his swords to his spears, have limited use meanwhile Kishibe can sneak away at a moment notice and hold the advantage at CQC due to his AP and LS advantage. Voting Kishibe
 
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