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1-A meta for Dragon Ball

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I have a 1-A meta for Dragon Ball which I believe in and should be used to upgrade specific profiles such as Goku, Broly, Zeno, Vegeta, etc. Please share your thoughts or contentions below if you disagree with this reasoning or evidence.

So, super-dimensions (aka cho-jigen) exist within Dragon Ball. And super dimensions are beyond the order of dimensions or higher dimensions themself. Due to the fact that it translates to "beyond higher dimensions" or "beyond the order of dimensions" it would be referring all extensions of dimensions, therefore transcending every coordinate space. And the dimensionality doesn't need to be infinite for the super dimensions to be outer because by definition, it is beyond all extensions of dimensionality. Therefore, this would equate to 1-A.
 
Actually, while this is obviously a joke, now that I think about it, I wonder what makes Solaris’ Superdimensional statement valid and Dragon Ball Super’s invalid. Not a whataboutism, by the way—Just genuinely curious. Like, I’m genuinely wondering what supporting evidence does Solaris has that gives him the okay? I imagine it would have to do with his temporal omnipresence, or Eggman’s intelligence.
 
I'd imagine the fact that DBS just doesn't really have much focus on it and we really have a name to work on, with the Wiki not really accepting names alone as sufficent evidence. Meanwhile Sonic has the context of what Solaris is and what it is doing to serve as supporting evidence, with the Superdimension itself being treated as this relevant and important structure when it is brought up.

The most DBS has it that it was accessed through the sheer power of two Tier 2 characters fighting, and that is no where close to sufficient.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Actually, while this is obviously a joke, now that I think about it, I wonder what makes Solaris’ Superdimensional statement valid and Dragon Ball Super’s invalid. Not a whataboutism, by the way—Just genuinely curious. Like, I’m genuinely wondering what supporting evidence does Solaris has that gives him the okay? I imagine it would have to do with his temporal omnipresence, or Eggman’s intelligence.
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I'm actually not joking, and if Solaris has the "super-dimensional" raw kanji within it, wouldn't this also logically upscale Solaris to 1-A?
 
Everything12 said:
I'd imagine the fact that DBS just doesn't really have much focus on it and we really have a name to work on, with the Wiki not really accepting names alone as sufficent evidence. Meanwhile Sonic has the context of what Solaris is and what it is doing to serve as supporting evidence, with the Superdimension itself being treated as this relevant and important structure when it is brought up.
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This still doesn't debunk the fact that super-dimensions is an actual established thing in Dragon Ball that the creators had willingly added to the cosmology. It's even stated multiple times about these super-dimensions and their objective existence, and even in depth by the writers themself on how they used super-dimensional imagery.
 
Everything12 said:
I'd imagine the fact that DBS just doesn't really have much focus on it and we really have a name to work on, with the Wiki not really accepting names alone as sufficent evidence. Meanwhile Sonic has the context of what Solaris is and what it is doing to serve as supporting evidence, with the Superdimension itself being treated as this relevant and important structure when it is brought up.

The most DBS has it that it was accessed through the sheer power of two Tier 2 characters fighting, and that is no where close to sufficient.
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Official Dragon Ball article where the CG says about them making a different place from 3 dimensions trying to capture something that is a different dimension or something superdimensional. A battle in a different dimension and calling the place superdimensional. It's referring to the dimension in mathematical form

Previously there was this on the official DB website about the size of the strange lights

I want you to do something new that takes advantage of the CG features.'' It's going to be a technical story, but there's software called "Unity" that's good at constantly moving things around with a lot of information in real time. It's software often used in games, but this time we're using it to battle in a place that doesn't actually exist, like a different dimension. Yokoo: If you give the software information about what kind of atmosphere it should have, it will create a CG world that makes you think, "How about something like that?" Seeing that, we're also surprised: "Wow, it's going to be like that!" Different dimensions are expressed in mathematical formulas and converted into 3D. The techniques I've used in other work have been developed in this work, but I still don't understand them (laughs).
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Aaaaa11112222 said:
Why do you believe this?
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Also the proof you sent is just a blatantly wrong translation
"元" isn't jigen nor does it mean dimension. It means origin/original.

次元 Is dimensions or jigen so a more literal translation wouldnt be being beyond the order of dimensionality but it would be "Beyond dimensions"
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Also the proof you sent is just a blatantly wrong translation
"元" isn't jigen nor does it mean dimension. It means origin/original.

次元 Is dimensions or jigen so a more literal translation wouldnt be being beyond the order of dimensionality but it would be "Beyond dimensions"
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In the proof that I sent uses "超 次元" it doesn't use "超元."
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Cho Jigen or Hyperdimensional/Superdimensional is a sci fi term to describe something with more than 3 dimensions.
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The Wiki does not except such explanations, these things must be given adequate explanations in the source material itself. And the name superdimensions alone isn't sufficient explanation. Especially as dimensions itself can be a term that is as vague as "world" and is used in media to describe a variety of things, from universe, to pocket spaces, to the tiering relevant axis and higher planes, even being used in multiple different ways in the very media itself. Basically, context is really really important in evaluating these sorts of things.

I say this all with the understanding that pretty much any explanation I give that contradicts the opinions people already have will pretty much be ignored or rejected as their mind is already set that as far as they are concerned this is enough context, but clearly I like wasting my time.
 
Aaaaa11112222 said:
I know, and I'm saying that the evidence that I linked uses "超次元" so "dimension" is in my evidence, and not just "origin" or "root."
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Well if you acknowledge this then there is no "beyond the order of dimensionality" in this. It's just a generic term that literally means "beyond dimensions". The typical usage of it (superdimensional/hyperdimensional) is again as a sci fi term to mean more than 3 dimensions
 
Everything12 said:
The Wiki does not except such explanations, these things must be given adequate explanations in the source material itself. And the name superdimensions alone isn't sufficient explanation. Especially as dimensions itself can be a term that is as vague as "world" and is used in media to describe a variety of things, from universe, to pocket spaces, to the tiering relevant axis and higher planes, even being used in multiple different ways in the very media itself. Basically, context is really really important in evaluating these sorts of things.

I say this all with the understanding that pretty much any explanation I give that contradicts the opinions people already have will pretty much be ignored or rejected as their mind is already set that as far as they are concerned this is enough context, but clearly I like wasting my time.
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Yea context is important so just one off mentions might not count but I'm just saying that the typical usage of it is just usually referring to more than 3 dimensions.
 
You probably think of that because your in the powerscaling community where every reason to make a character stronger will be used and exploited and dimensions have taken centre stage for this. In truth, the perspective of people outside the community who has barely any understanding of this stuff, not really.

Dimensions are just a vague term to refer to a cosmology construct that can be used in whatever way the author wants, usually as a way to refer to another universe (no clue why when universe is a good enough term, could be because it's more exotic?)
 
Everything12 said:
You probably think of that because your in the powerscaling community where every reason to make a character stronger will be used and exploited and dimensions have taken centre stage for this. In truth, the perspective of people outside the community who has barely any understanding of this stuff, not really.

Dimensions are just a vague term to refer to a cosmology construct that can be used in whatever way the author wants, usually as a way to refer to another universe (no clue why when universe is a good enough term, could be because it's more exotic?)
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Read a dictionary please and you'll understand where I'm coming from.
www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of HYPERDIMENSIONAL

of or relating to space of more than three dimensions… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com www.merriam-webster.com
 
RedReaper616 said:
Actually, while this is obviously a joke, now that I think about it, I wonder what makes Solaris’ Superdimensional statement valid and Dragon Ball Super’s invalid. Not a whataboutism, by the way—Just genuinely curious. Like, I’m genuinely wondering what supporting evidence does Solaris has that gives him the okay? I imagine it would have to do with his temporal omnipresence, or Eggman’s intelligence.
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Ian Flynn, one of the main Sonic writers, stated that Solaris was an actual Higher Dimensional being

There are also other evidences, but this is one of the first that comes to mind

Basically, only the kanji by itself ins't enough, but If get good additional evidence you might have a case
 
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