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  1. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Fate Changes

    Actual Japanese description of the statement was "þé¡Õîû(lit. carbonize)" not "vaporize" and "Fully charged Dendera's Electric Bulb has enough heat to carbonize(burn down?) the entire Tokyo"
  2. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Fate Changes

    Naval fleet thing is a feat made by Ramses. The US navy found Ramesseum Tentyris and attacked it with missiles but Ozymandias fired suppressed Dendera's eletric bulb which have power equal to Anti-fortress NP to vaporize the entire Aegis fleet.
  3. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Gilgamesh downgrade

    No, aa I posted before, actual attack point of her NP is a hole even smaller than human. Becoming larger than the planet is just representation what her NP is capable of. Since the Nap is anyway anti-plant NP. But it is about manipulating souls.
  4. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Gilgamesh downgrade

    Why people still assume that mythic formal wear make servants get power during their life? I mean, In F/GO, Real Nero appeared and characters were surprised becasue Nero has power equal to servants while she was still alive.. This means that wearing the clothes makes them much stronger than...
  5. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Gilgamesh downgrade

    I think they're equal. Why thier actual stats seem different is simply becasue fate works are written by many authors. Actually, F/SN, F/P and F/E (the story, that is, he had nothing to do with the gameplay, or its mechanics) are all written by Nasu. But there is zero proven difference with...
  6. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Gilgamesh downgrade

    I think they're equal. Why thier actual stats seem different is simply becasue fate works are written by many authors.
  7. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Gilgamesh downgrade

    Ok do you really think this is lager than earth? Kiara becoming larger than the planet is representaion. Its real attack is making a hole even smaller than Gilgamesh.
  8. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Gilgamesh downgrade

    I always wonder why Kiara's Attack Potency is planet level. I mean, her range can be planetary considering her noble phantasm is about soul manipulation, but why attack potency? It's not about destruction.
  9. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Nasuverse General Discussion Thread

    As for P/FB&S, it has explicit feats so I think it is the best work for making profiles
  10. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Me? I didn't specify someone. Sorry, I am poor at English..
  11. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Sorry for wrong thread... Do you have any plans for making more profile from various fate series?
  12. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    If you power-scale some servants, that is like throw a rock to a tank. You ain't gonna hurt a character with Planet level+ durability with that attack. I thought we were talking about Normal Gil who has only small island level attack potency... If you want to argue with mystic code Gil, sure...
  13. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Nope. It surpass Excalibur+Stella(has power equal toanti country level noble phantasm). And even after it is weakened by Exalibut blast, it still has power to devastate entire Tokyo. Dendera was defeated after stell was boosted by three commnad seals which is huge factor. Also saber's master was...
  14. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Only if he fools around like he did with Shirou, considering their threat level, he won't and they'll only have a small chance of beating him while he can just bind them and NP spam them until they die. Don't know about Scathach, but Ozy can be defeated if Gil go serious at the beggining but...
  15. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    He still has the abilities like GoB, Ea and Enkidu to hard counter even Divine Spirits. Of course not at his current level, but at his Origin Form/possible Grand Archer form, he certainly can. Of course. But at his current form, he can be defeated by Divine level servants such as Lancer...
  16. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    I thought she meant her nine-tailed form rather than Amaterasu (it is stated that even if she regains all of her power, she won't become Amaterasu again since the latter is a seperate being). It was my mistake then.
  17. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    This is why Gil is no longer strongest. Orginally, Holy grail only could summon heroic spirits so no one can match with Gil. But now as even Divine spirit itself can be summoned as Servant, Gil can't be as strongest.
  18. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Pretty much. Tamamo stated herself if she were her complete form, she would be on par with Solomon.
  19. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Gil still the most versatile versus Servants. I know. But servants I mentioned are not regular servant. They somewhat has power equal or superior to Divine Siprits. And ozymandias contains every egyptian god within his body and Paraoh's history is said to be older than Origin of Heroic...
  20. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    I think everyone should know that Gilgamesh is not stongest servant anymore. There are few servants those who has power equal or superior to Him such as Scathach, Ozymandias, Solomon etc. Scathach and Ozy surpass Gill feat wise and Solomon sure stomps Gil.
  21. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Power of Servant is not their stats. It is their NPs. Karna has powerful NP that allow him match entire Gil's GoB. Ea is probably do not inlict Planet level damage but wiping out Gaia's Reality Marble is still deadly to others. P.S.: Is it true that Li Shuwen defeated Bewulf and managed to...
  22. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Karna is so far the only Servant to be declared a "Gilgamesh-class Servant". This speaks volumes about his power alone. Not to mention the fact that he was even more powerful in his original legend, and in all of his appearances he was heavily nerfed by the fact that he had mana issues (had...
  23. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Also Karna is not stronger than King Arthur or Gawain. They're pretty much equal as Sieg was completely equal to Karna if not for Vashavi. But I agree that Karna has some advantages.
  24. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Just no. Gilgamesh is strongest among regular servants because of his gate of babylon not because of his pure firepower. Karna is nearly equal to Gilgamesh because he has Vashavi and his armor which are even Gate of Baylon doesn't possess. Remeber that Gilgame is stongest among heroic sprits...
  25. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    From what I know, Whole translations of Fate/Apocrypha aren't out. Why don't you wait until it is finished? As I metioned before, Brahmastra Kundala was equal to Balmung in terms of firepower and even though Vashavi is much stronger than that, Country level Karna makes no sense at all.
  26. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    Vasavi shakti was able to destroy Achilles Cosmos even after it was weakend by Balmung blast. And Astolfo could lift the shield while it was activating. So yeah, I my opinion, Planet level Rider makes no sense. I think at least City level via powerscailing is more proper for him. Maybe Small...
  27. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    In vol5 of Fate/Apocrypha, Karna and Sieg was completely equal in combat and sieg was able to block Brahmastra Kundala with his Balmung. Noble Phantasm category doesn't say its true destructive power anyway.
  28. PhantasmalGreatsword

    Some Quick Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Apocrypha Rider Feats

    I think Nasuverse in this wiki needs some revisions. For example, Karna's Brahmastra kundala was equal to Balmung, which is Anti-Army Noble Phantasm.
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