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  1. ElixirBlue

    Catching Up To The Games: Archie Sonic Speed Upgrades + Low 2-C Post Genesis Wave

    I agree with infinite speed but there are more feats to include: 1. Sonic physically visiting practically every version of himself in the infinite Multiverse. Zonic was surprised he missed Underground. Sonic Super Special #10 2. Sonic and Dr. Robotnik fighting faster than Ultimate...
  2. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    Perhaps something in “Off Panel” could you form a logical thread to grab the “Super Dimensional” statement.
  3. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    It’s a statement that needs logic to apply to another, entirely different and separate continuity.
  4. ElixirBlue

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Really? Whats missing?
  5. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    And how would game statements apply to Archie if the Black Arms never invaded & Tails and Amy were gone from Archie SA2’s plot? We can’t find ourselves saying that every version of Sonic (SatAM, OVA, Paramount) is as strong as Game Sonic. If there is something in Archie that can allow us to use...
  6. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    I think I’m still lose on that. How does Archie get the “super dimensional” statement?
  7. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    The problem is, that won’t matter. The Black Arms invading the planet was integral to Shadow the Hedgehog (game) but never happened. Shadow the Hedgehog (game) is as canon as Sonic 06 in Archie. The Chaos gods of Archie never got mentioned to be involved with Solaris, so Solaris might not have...
  8. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    But it is guesswork, at the end of the day. The Cosmic Interstate is already guesswork enough but it’s far more reasonable because it doesn’t have the Neo Walkers or Ancient Walkers protecting it like the Chaos Force. It’s difficult to believe the Neo Walkers would need Super Sonic’s help in...
  9. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    Depends. Not every adaptations was approached the same way, like Sonic 3D Blast was good-old gag era special, Sonic Adventure’s Archie adaptation was based on the Japanese dub by guys who don’t know Japanese, or the Shadow the Hedgehog adaption, which was 1 issue that took place in Gerald’s...
  10. ElixirBlue

    WE MAKIN IT INTO A HIGHER COSMOLOGY WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥 | Archie Sonic, Solaris and Cosmology additions | 0-0-0

    Honestly, I doubt we could pull it off. I considered the “Super Dimensional” line for Archie Solaris. But, the problem is that line was never spoken in any Archie related media or from a creditable source like Dr. Eggman. It’s possible Solaris to have 6D AP but not existence. Game canon can...
  11. ElixirBlue

    Archie Super Sonic vs Granblue Fantasy Captain

    Who scales higher in AP?
  12. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    It’s listed as immortality, not Regen. The description explicitly states he was affected and then transported.
  13. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Yeah… tho, for Archie, traveling out of such places is not a new concept. Robotnik has the ability to travel to the Void and back with his machines, and Sonic can walk into a space where color doesn’t exist and walk back out. I mean, a single Chaos Emerald does and I could go into an Archie Hax...
  14. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Why is Hearts faster?
  15. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Chaos Energy can transport people out of EE passively without Regenerating. There is no need to argue resistance. Solaris gets EE, gets transported back from Erased Existence, gets EE again, cycle continues unless something else happens.
  16. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Voting for Solaris then.
  17. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    Because Sonic and Robotnik aren’t Regenerating nor Healing. They are being transported from Erased Existence to Existence through Chaos Energy. Because of how unstable Chaos Knuckles’ Chaos Energy usage is compare to Sonic’s 1 Billionth Ring, Robotnik’s molecules are too unstable to last for...
  18. ElixirBlue

    The Sun God faces down The Ultimate Godslayer! | Solaris (Archie) vs Hearts | 3-8-2 (needs more discussion?)

    “Its eyes opened across space and time and began to consume all as localized black holes.” The scan is on the profile in the AP section but admittedly is under Super Silver section instead of the 5-D section.
  19. ElixirBlue

    "Waves of Regenesis" (Archie Robotnik vs IDW Shockwave)

    Man, I would love to engaged with this match but the match would be removed after Archie Robotnik’s profile separation
  20. ElixirBlue

    "I've got your limit right here!" (Archie Super Form Revision)

    Bump
  21. ElixirBlue

    Gemerl Revision

    I agree
  22. ElixirBlue

    "I've got your limit right here!" (Archie Super Form Revision)

    Bump
  23. ElixirBlue

    "I've got your limit right here!" (Archie Super Form Revision)

    Sorry, I work during the week How about this: "Super Forms are implied to have a timelimit, but no timeframe was given.<ref note>Stated by the Encyclopedia and Sonic himself, there is an implied timelimit for Super Forms. However, no timeline had ever factored into the plot for Super...
  24. ElixirBlue

    EGGMAN SHOOTS PEOPLE IN THE FACE but it’s Low 2-C

    The reason being that it's illogical to deny, along with his reaction and combat speed. Not elaborating further on Classic and Modern Eggman's travel, on-foot, speed feats here for this
  25. ElixirBlue

    EGGMAN SHOOTS PEOPLE IN THE FACE but it’s Low 2-C

    Switch me from leaning to straight agreeing with downscaling and gun scaling. Eggman has too many physical evidence of scaling to the base cast to be ignored. Eggman wasn't even get instantly one-shot killed by Shadow the Hedgehog in Shadow's game. He got a karate chop to the head area and...
  26. ElixirBlue

    "I've got your limit right here!" (Archie Super Form Revision)

    If you don't mind, I made a more detail imgur pertaining to the topic. I agree with removing it from P&A, but it works better as a "likely" weakness for the Super Forms, than straight up weakness.
  27. ElixirBlue

    "I've got your limit right here!" (Archie Super Form Revision)

    Unlocked
  28. ElixirBlue

    "I've got your limit right here!" (Archie Super Form Revision)

    This is largely an un-controversial addition. Since enough time has passed, I believe it’s good to be applied.
  29. ElixirBlue

    Sonic fights God |archie sonic vs dc round 2, Pre Genesis Sonic vs God (Seekers in Mystery)| 0-0-0

    Damn. Is he?
  30. ElixirBlue

    Sonic fights God |archie sonic vs dc round 2, Pre Genesis Sonic vs God (Seekers in Mystery)| 0-0-0

    Hmm, using True Enerjak is a stomp then. It's a totally guess how True Enerjak fights and Avatar Enerjaks are stronger.
  31. ElixirBlue

    Sonic fights God |archie sonic vs dc round 2, Pre Genesis Sonic vs God (Seekers in Mystery)| 0-0-0

    True Enerjak is kinda baseline... How strong is the Presence in 7D?
  32. ElixirBlue

    Sonic has to fight another Goddess| Sonic The Hedgehog vs Kuromueina |0-0-0

    Eventually. There are other things to take care of first. Can't build a castle without building a base.
  33. ElixirBlue

    Sonic has to fight another Goddess| Sonic The Hedgehog vs Kuromueina |0-0-0

    Thats fair. I'm just informing that this match was made too early.
  34. ElixirBlue

    Sonic has to fight another Goddess| Sonic The Hedgehog vs Kuromueina |0-0-0

    There isn’t a change when discussing how FateHax works. This is how we’ve been debating with it since 2019. It’s any victory that happens in Sonic’s presence, as the immortal, godkiller Mammoth Mogul blamed Sonic for losing his own godhood when Sonic didn’t do anything but just be there.
  35. ElixirBlue

    Sonic has to fight another Goddess| Sonic The Hedgehog vs Kuromueina |0-0-0

    This is when we were ignoring Off Panel. His profile was created after FateHax’s potency was debated. We’ve never given FateHax a on-profile dimensional tier (I don’t think). And basically, the only way to measure FateHax is to look at all of Sonic’s victories that happen in his presence, as...
  36. ElixirBlue

    Sonic has to fight another Goddess| Sonic The Hedgehog vs Kuromueina |0-0-0

    Sonic’s FateHax reaches 8-D, possibly 9-D now
  37. ElixirBlue

    Too Many To Count: An Archie Sonic Cosmology Revision

    I wouldn’t (at this time). There isn’t really evidence for Shadow’s physicals to increase alongside his energy output. Enerjak was mopping Shadow with his inhibitors off just as well as he was against Base Sonic.
  38. ElixirBlue

    Too Many To Count: An Archie Sonic Cosmology Revision

    I don’t believe it never being brought up again matters much, since a lot in Archie Sonic is not brought up again, like the 1 Billionth Ring (predating the crossover) or Nate Morgan’s death by Nuke. Riverdale itself is referenced a lot in the Archie Sonic comic by Archie’s Avatar staffs in Off...
  39. ElixirBlue

    Too Many To Count: An Archie Sonic Cosmology Revision

    It is using the same arguments that were already in the blog.
  40. ElixirBlue

    Too Many To Count: An Archie Sonic Cosmology Revision

    Ah, I do have to quickly mention. The Chaos Force would be 7-D with the Next Evolution at 6-D, and Off Panel being one step higher than the both of them. Based on the scaling within the blog.
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